Monkeypox a new worry for gay and bi men

[Kevin Slater]

29 minutes ago, TopBunk said:

What's the best way to get a vaccine?

Care to be more specific?

Kevin Slater

[muslnicknj]

I think I’ll pass on hiring until this passes. Geez it’s become a real challenge to hire guys with all these pandemics! 

[Tactile Daddy]

Per Dr Carlton on IG, 

Numerous cases of Monkey Pox in Adults vaccinated as a child for smallpox, but generally milder. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg0WUuxJW-y/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[Tactile Daddy]

I found this information via Dr Carlton on Instagram who has been a valuable resource for the gay community providing up to date info on monkeypox as it becomes available... 

This document is a non-comprehensive, crowdsourced list of where Monkeypox vaccinations are being provided in various U.S. cities while resources continue to be scarce. Much of this information is based on available information online or word-of-mouth.

https://stopmonkeypox.org/

Edited August 4, 2022 by Tactile Daddy

[Alfstoria]

it will be almost 27k available  if you have the time and patience:

Have 2 browserS open before 6 pm

same with phone  open  10/15 min

Be ready to enter you DOB zip code and then, NO, then press Next,if nothing shows up, refresh and refresh 

if  ucan’t get any appointment  I will  suggest to go to the site at around  6::30.   Don’t ask how do I know, but NYCDOH has allocated 15 appt from 11 to 6  pm to a different non profit for LGBTQ services, if they don’t use the appointments, those will be released that day at 6:30

I wasn’t asked if I was MSM or have sex in the 14 days or used a hookup app in the last 14 days  so if you want  to, go and get one of those canceled appointments

here is the link:

vax4nyc.nyc.gov/monkeypox Notify NYC: On August 4 at 6 p.m., monkeypox vaccine appointments can be made by visiting

vax4nyc.nyc.gov/monkeypox

or by calling 877-VAX-4NYC. 
GOOD LUCK

Edited August 4, 2022 by Alfstoria

[menaughty]

Guyssss!!! I got my first dose in Dallas. Finally! 🥳

[caramelsub]

I got mine today as well!! Drove an hour and half away to get it. Scheduled my second dose as well.

[rustyrex]

It's getting more and more serious, we just had our second case come through at the hospital I work at.  I've put a pause on the hobby until I can get vaccinated.  The vaccine supply is so restricted that they will only allow a  small number of high risk individuals to get it.  I was looking for videos and I saw a guy I almost hired when I went to Texas in June.  He did an interview on a local Houston channel with pox visible on his face.  He's brave, very brave.  He's also a porn model.  Here is the link.

 

Edited August 4, 2022 by rustyrex

[Luv2play]

That's tough to watch. I recognize him as an escort on RM from several years ago named Silver Steel, I think.

In our gay community we are all walking on eggshells, which I somehow foresaw on May 18th when I started this thread. I haven't been able to avoid the anxiety as I continue to hire, albeit with some new protocols in place.

I will only hire someone who has been vaccinated, which thankfully has been easier in the major cities in Canada. I look out for any skin lesions and only have sex with the lights on. But the anxiety remains, even though I had two vaccines when I was young and a booster 4 weeks ago.

We just need to keep trucking.

[Luv2play]

The Biden Administration today called Monkeypox a national health emergency. With 7000 confirmed cases and Canada having around 700 I am wondering when Canada will follow suit. 

The vaccination response has been better here in Canada though and gay men who want one can get it easily and readily, no questions asked besides your basic stats. There seem to be many more hoops and restrictions in many parts of the US altho in some cases people are already booking second shots. A hit and miss situation it appears to an outsider, which maybe the emergency declaration is meant to address.

Edited August 4, 2022 by Luv2play

[LookingAround]

1 hour ago, Luv2play said:

That's tough to watch. I recognize him as an escort on RM from several years ago named Silver Steel, I think.

In our gay community we are all walking on eggshells, which I somehow foresaw on May 18th when I started this thread. I haven't been able to avoid the anxiety as I continue to hire, albeit with some new protocols in place.

I will only hire someone who has been vaccinated, which thankfully has been easier in the major cities in Canada. I look out for any skin lesions and only have sex with the lights on. But the anxiety remains, even though I had two vaccines when I was young and a booster 4 weeks ago.

We just need to keep trucking.

There is no “booster.” How many years has it been since you were “young?”  That immunity is probably long gone. You didn’t have a booster sir you had a vaccine. 

[EZEtoGRU]

1 hour ago, Luv2play said:

The vaccination response has been better here in Canada though and gay men who want one can get it easily and readily, no questions asked besides your basic stats. There seem to be many more hoops and restrictions in many parts of the US altho in some cases people are already booking second shots. A hit and miss situation it appears to an outsider, which maybe the emergency declaration is meant to address.

I agree that Canada has handled this better than the US so far.  The vaccine is not readily available in Michigan unless you fit into one of the extreme risk categories...which I do not.   I see Ontario every day from our living room window in Michigan.  The vaccine is easily available in Toronto.  What about other places in Ontario?  I'm about a 60 minute drive from Windsor and a 30 minute drive from Sarnia.

[SirBillybob]

1 hour ago, EZEtoGRU said:

I agree that Canada has handled this better than the US so far.  The vaccine is not readily available in Michigan unless you fit into one of the extreme risk categories...which I do not.   I see Ontario every day from our living room window in Michigan.  The vaccine is easily available in Toronto.  What about other places in Ontario?  I'm about a 60 minute drive from Windsor and a 30 minute drive from Sarnia.

Windsor-EssexCounty is only dispensing it as PEP currently and if PrEP is eventually supplied it is unknown if foreign nationals will be able to access it as easily as in major Canadian cities. Likely same deal Sarnia-LambtonCounty. 

https://www.wepridefest.com/monkeypox/

[menaughty]

The place I got vaccine at said they will call for the second dose, I do not need to schedule anything.

But God knows it was a struggle to get the first dose, I really hope things change in a month.

One more thing, they did not give me a vaccination card. I have seen some people holding their vaccination cards after getting the vaccine.

It is so sad to see that some people are labeling it as a gay disease.

Lets all get vaccinated and kick this disease out of our community.

 

Edited August 5, 2022 by menaughty

[kingsley88]

I thank Silver Steele for his courage to interview showing his face with monkeypox. He also published a photo timeline that I think is helpful to know how monkeypox progresses and heals over a course of 3-4 weeks.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg23cQVOZ8p/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[mike carey]

The Australian government announced yesterday that they have entered contracts for 450K doses of a third generation vaccine, with about 22K to arrive this week and a total of 100K this year. State and territory health departments will manage vaccinations including setting criteria for which cohorts will receive them. There were limited supplies of earlier generation vaccines before this.

[Luv2play]

10 hours ago, LookingAround said:

There is no “booster.” How many years has it been since you were “young?”  That immunity is probably long gone. You didn’t have a booster sir you had a vaccine. 

My understanding is that there has been no study done whether vaccines for smallpox in childhood confer any lasting protection against Monkeypox , which  is a less virulent form of smallpox. The vaccine I received several weeks ago is used for smallpox since there is no specific one for Monkeypox, as I understand. I used the term booster because I have already had two smallpox vaccines and there may be some residual effect in my body. 

Interestingly, the first innoculation at 7 was from the vaccine which was scratched on the shoulder and left a mark. At 18 I got a different vaccine which I believe was similar to the formulation used today, a shot in the arm. I have the card from that vaccination and the one from three weeks ago. 

Edited August 5, 2022 by Luv2play

[LookingAround]

That’s all well and good but I think you’re an n=1 calling it a booster. No one else in public health or in the scientific literature is calling it that. They’re calling what you got recently a vaccine boo. 

Edited August 5, 2022 by LookingAround

[SirBillybob]

N of 2+. I have a childhood Vaccinia history. Last month I received MVA-BN, a SPXV vaccine booster that is hoped to protect against MPXV.

[EZEtoGRU]

15 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

Windsor-EssexCounty is only dispensing it as PEP currently and if PrEP is eventually supplied it is unknown if foreign nationals will be able to access it as easily as in major Canadian cities. Likely same deal Sarnia-LambtonCounty. 

https://www.wepridefest.com/monkeypox/

Thanks.  Much appreciated.

[Luv2play]

I just read an article in the NYT that clarified the 85 percent figure of protection against Monkeypox in people who had smallpox vaccinations in childhood. It was data derived from a small population during a Monkeypox outbreak in 1988. The article went on to say that for many aspects of the current outbreak, we are operating in a data free zone.

Consideration is being given to delaying the second dose because of shortages, something New York and some other places have already decided, and also cutting the dosage by one fifth and administering the shot between the levels of skin rather than under it.

Again data are not clearly available to show these are as effective as two full doses for those never having had any smallpox vaccine in their lives, which is the case for most under 50. 

[+ Tygerscent]

Was in London for a month but, had to leave before I could get to the Soho Monkey Pox Clinics… 

 Returned home recently, went into Harbor View sexual health Clinic in Seattle, had to get tested for Covid and Monkey Pox, (simply because I was in London), before they would give me my Monkey Pox vaccine but, got the negative results for both a few days later, walked in on Wednesday, filled out my paper work and got my Monkey Pox Vaccination. Took ten mins total, as they have a separate room now specifically for MPV~
 As a back up plan, I scheduled an appointment and ferry ride from Port Angeles to Victoria BC to get the MPV Jab at Island Health clinic where it is being offered. Since I was able to get pinned in Seattle at Harbor View, I canceled my Island Health appointment. That took less than one minute on-line.

 Wrote to my ongoing Clients and texting mates to let them know I’ve gotten my vaccinations… 

 I receive my fifth covid pin August 16th and that puts me in track for the improved next gen covid shot in December. 
 
 So, check around and see what’s available in your areas… one may not need to travel to CA to get pinned~ 

Edited August 5, 2022 by Tygerscent

[SirBillybob]

1 hour ago, Luv2play said:

I just read an article in the NYT that clarified the 85 percent figure of protection against Monkeypox in people who had smallpox vaccinations in childhood. It was data derived from a small population during a Monkeypox outbreak in 1988.

Then the NYT reported what I wrote here on July 30th and what Canada’s NACI referenced months ago. In more detail, a team from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and other institutions tracked MPXV in the Democratic Republic of Congo in the first half of the 1980s decade, transiently Zaire at the time. It was not a single-year outbreak. Their published work began coming out in the second half of that decade. One of the oft-cited manuscripts is dated 1988.

Edited August 5, 2022 by SirBillybob

[+ glutes]

'Dancing, Kissing, Shaking Hands': Here's How Monkeypox Can Spread

By Jovonne Ledet

https://www.binnews.com/content/2022-08-05-dancing-kissing-shaking-hands-heres-how-monkeypox-can-spread/

 

Edit: Laugh as you want, I m just the messenger.

Edited August 5, 2022 by glutes
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[SirBillybob]

Rimoin et al’s later surveillance work in DRC reveals similar findings as above but seems to receive less attention even though it is comparatively more recent …