Monkeypox a new worry for gay and bi men

[jeezifonly]

Reading about this makes me look forward to this year’s holiday season, when we’ll all have a whole new reason to cancel plans. 🙄

 

[muslnicknj]

Just curious how Monkeypox has impacted the hiring of escorts. Are you hesitant to hire during this time? If you are still hiring, what activities do you engage in? 

[LookingAround]

Monkeypox in many friends and one sexual partner prompted me get the vaccine. I’m back to my regular routine now. 

Edited August 2, 2022 by LookingAround

[TorontoDrew]

52 minutes ago, muslnicknj said:

Just curious how Monkeypox has impacted the hiring of escorts. Are you hesitant to hire during this time? If you are still hiring, what activities do you engage in? 

I got ny vaccine in June after I started reading about it.  I also check with any potential partners first.  So overall, there hasn't been much of an impact.

[+ nycman]

Before getting the first shot, full stop since mid-May. 

4 weeks after 1st shot, open to hiring others who are also 4 weeks out.

2nd shot, will still only be hiring others who are at least 4 weeks out from their 1st shot.

It doesn’t make 100% sense, but it’s what I’m comfortable with.

Edited August 2, 2022 by nycman

[+ KensingtonHomo]

We got vaccinated about three weeks ago. So we're not that concerned but are checking with providers if they're also been vaccinated. 

[BaronArtz]

I am still trying to get my first vaccine.  Until that happens, and a few weeks out, I am not hiring.

Thankfully, my regular guy, who is vaxxed himself, was very understanding and even appreciative when I told him why I could not see him for a while.  I am sure these are tough times for the providers.

[+ glutes]

I am not hiring until 3 weeks out after my 2nd shot.

What providers tell me about their immunizations I take with a big grain of salt.

[menaughty]

Ugh! Dallas County Public Health office is so confusing.  I attended their town hall meeting yesterday (their Director was in it too) and they said that you do not have to be dallas county resident to get the vaccine.

But today when I called because they have  expanded the eligibility a little more, they told me I have to be a Dallas county resident. 

I remember people in that meeting were complaining about the frontdesk people. 

[sincitymix]

Unfortunately the news, especially Fox news is screaming its head off that this is a GAY disease. 

 

My mother asked me about it. She and my father watch exclusively FOX. 🤮 She wanted to know if it was true that it was a gay only disease.. I had to explain to her what Monkey Pox was and that anyone can catch it. Its a respiratory virus so wearing a mask is a must.. and if she sees anyone with sores all over them , she should avoid being near them or even touching anything they came into contact with.. its a very highly transmittable virus.   She of course kept responding.. but the news says its only gay people. 

Sigh.. Deep sigh. 

 

 

[Jim_n_NYC]

Had a follow-up with my Dr today and he didn't mention MP until I brought it up.  I wanted to let him know that I had the first vax and he said 'great!' and then asked if I was vaxed for small pox as a kid, to which I said yes.  He then said I'm more likely very safe from this but to make sure I get the second dose.

[Strafe13]

58 minutes ago, Jim_n_NYC said:

Had a follow-up with my Dr today and he didn't mention MP until I brought it up.  I wanted to let him know that I had the first vax and he said 'great!' and then asked if I was vaxed for small pox as a kid, to which I said yes.  He then said I'm more likely very safe from this but to make sure I get the second dose.

Got my first monkeypox vaccine dose last Saturday in NYC.  I asked about the 2nd dose that we’re supposed to get 4 weeks later, and was only told that the city’s health department would contact us about it.  Just getting the first shot was so difficult, you’d think they’d try to make scheduling the second one easier, if only to increase the rates of compliance.  But alas, we’re all left in the dark as to when (or even if) we’ll get our 2nd shots.

[Jim_n_NYC]

1 minute ago, Strafe13 said:

Got my first monkeypox vaccine dose last Saturday in NYC.  I asked about the 2nd dose that we’re supposed to get 4 weeks later, and was only told that the city’s health department would contact us about it.  Just getting the first shot was so difficult, you’d think they’d try to make scheduling the second one easier, if only to increase the rates of compliance.  But alas, we’re all left in the dark as to when (or even if) we’ll get our 2nd shots.

I don't know this for sure, but from what I gather they are not allowing us to schedule our own 2nd appointments, they are supposed to contact us when it's time.  I'm not too worried about it...yet...since I was told I'd be contacted in 3 to 4 weeks after the first.  I think they did it this way to control getting the 2nd shot out when it's time (though it seems more labor intensive for them).  I'm hoping that since more vaccines are getting released (the US supposedly has a big stockpile in Europe) we shouldn't have to much issue getting the second.

I'm sure as soon as someone in the forums in NYC gets that call and posts about it here, there'll be lots more calmed nerves.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

9 hours ago, muslnicknj said:

Just curious how Monkeypox has impacted the hiring of escorts. Are you hesitant to hire during this time? If you are still hiring, what activities do you engage in? 

The biggest deterrent to my hiring is inflation, not monkeypox.  I'm avoiding bathhouses and group sex parties because of monkeypox.  But I'm avoiding escorts and massages because of high increases in prices

[+ nycman]

On 7/9/2022 at 9:58 AM, SirBillybob said:

Cases are TRACEABLE to these high risk MSM settings, meaning that secondary transmission to contacts outside of these settings, in completely non-sexual contexts, accounts for a subset of new case incidence, essentially moving progressively more towards indiscriminate selection.

You’re incredibly smart….but sometimes I feel like I’m listening to a Catholic Mass in Latin
in the early 60’s. It’s hard as fuck to understand. You might want to dumb it down, or risk
your audience misinterpreting what you’re trying to say. 

Or in the words of Monty Python, "blessed are the cheesemakers????"

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by nycman

[spidir]

In Seattle, WA:

1. Vaccination is prioritized for people who meet both criteria:
   • Gay, bisexual, or other men or transgender people who have sex with men AND
   • At least one of the following:
     • More than 10 sex partners in the prior 3 months
     • History of early syphilis or gonorrhea in the prior year
     • Methamphetamine use in the prior month
     • Attendance at a bathhouse, other public sex venue, or group sex (sex including at least 3 people at the same time) in the prior 3 months
     • Experiencing homelessness/unstable housing AND currently living in a congregate setting AND had any sexual activity in the prior 3 months.

People who are high risk close contacts of people diagnosed for monkeypox are also prioritized for vaccine

[Wanderoz]

My advice:  find out how to register where you live & get on the list. Answer however you have to.
Registration & first dose were a rapid piece of cake in DC. Hoping second dose will be too! 

[+ nycman]

8 hours ago, spidir said:

In Seattle, WA:

1. Vaccination is prioritized for people who meet both criteria:
   • Gay, bisexual, or other men or transgender people who have sex with men AND
   • At least one of the following:
     • More than 10 sex partners in the prior 3 months
     • History of early syphilis or gonorrhea in the prior year
     • Methamphetamine use in the prior month
     • Attendance at a bathhouse, other public sex venue, or group sex (sex including at least 3 people at the same time) in the prior 3 months
     • Experiencing homelessness/unstable housing AND currently living in a congregate setting AND had any sexual activity in the prior 3 months.

People who are high risk close contacts of people diagnosed for monkeypox are also prioritized for vaccine

Idiotic "Infectious Disease Experts" trying to qualify and quantify our sexuality.

My screening....”Are you a whore who has sex with men?"….yes?…you’re in.

So fucking stupid…..vaccinate the "whores" you morons!

Edited August 3, 2022 by nycman

[+ m_writer]

3 hours ago, spidir said:

In Seattle, WA:

1. Vaccination is prioritized for people who meet both criteria:
   • Gay, bisexual, or other men or transgender people who have sex with men AND
   • At least one of the following:
     • More than 10 sex partners in the prior 3 months
     • History of early syphilis or gonorrhea in the prior year
     • Methamphetamine use in the prior month
     • Attendance at a bathhouse, other public sex venue, or group sex (sex including at least 3 people at the same time) in the prior 3 months
     • Experiencing homelessness/unstable housing AND currently living in a congregate setting AND had any sexual activity in the prior 3 months.

People who are high risk close contacts of people diagnosed for monkeypox are also prioritized for vaccine

Same here for Southern California, and the problem is that unless I did one of the following, I still don't qualify. At this point, maybe I should lie in order to get the vaccine.

Edited August 3, 2022 by m_writer

[Tactile Daddy]

1 minute ago, m_writer said:

Same here for Southern California, and the problem is that unless I did one of the following, I still don't qualify. At this point, maybe I should lie in order to get the vaccine.

I know two people that went to one OF THE Vaccine POD sites and they were not asked for proof of preP prescription or recent std diagnosis 

[The Dude]

8 hours ago, Vegas_nw1982 said:

The biggest deterrent to my hiring is inflation, not monkeypox.  I'm avoiding bathhouses and group sex parties because of monkeypox.  But I'm avoiding escorts and massages because of high increases in prices

I haven't seen a giant increase in rates.  Do you mean price increases in other things don't leave much money for escorts and massages?

Edited August 3, 2022 by The Dude

[+ keroscenefire]

I got my vaccine today. Very easy though in Denver it's only available at the department of public health at a clinic or drive-through clinic.

Fortunately, my doctor actually informed me of the availability since I asked about it during my last Prep appointment. It sounds like Colorado is informing and getting vaccines to as many people who are on Prep as possible, which is definitely a good call.

Really no side-effects at all. Not even really sore. So glad to have it! 

[+ glutes]

9 hours ago, Vegas_nw1982 said:

The biggest deterrent to my hiring is inflation, not monkeypox.  I'm avoiding bathhouses and group sex parties because of monkeypox.  But I'm avoiding escorts and massages because of high increases in prices

Hiring Inflation = ridiculous rates asked for 

[SirBillybob]

On 8/1/2022 at 5:37 PM, SirBillybob said:

Correct. Your body doesn’t care whether you breathed in respiratory droplets from your pet prairie dog while cuddling it or sucked a guy’s dick that had a lesion.

I stand corrected.

The research emerging on MPXV current outbreak suggests that anogenital area is the most common location of lesions, suggesting that apart from symptomatic presentation that can occur in other locations of the body some time following incubation there is a predisposition in the context of GBMSM transmission for lesions to emerge at the site of viral inoculation, ie, where anogenital body parts (often mucosal) merge … or oral-oral, oral-anogenital, what have you.

That said, there is often another concurrent STI. There may also be a surveillance selection bias in which men with anogenital lesions as initial body location are presenting to STI, PrEP, etc clinics and overrepresented in such settings conducting detailed tracking. Nevertheless, supports condom use.

It remains to be seen whether the pattern of lesions in the overall population would be more consistent with assumptions about MPXV pathogenesis prior to the current unique subgroup susceptibility and case incidence.

Edited August 3, 2022 by SirBillybob

[TopBunk]

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