Monkeypox a new worry for gay and bi men

[edinbrooklyn]

1 minute ago, Kevin Slater said:

Kevin Slater

Thanks, Sir. I signed up for the texts.

[Kevin Slater]

1 minute ago, edinbrooklyn said:

Thanks, Sir. I signed up for the texts.

NYT reported two days ago that another large tranche is coming over from Europe and the allocations were announced yesterday.  I suspect to see a text message soon.

Kevin Slater

[edinbrooklyn]

2 minutes ago, Kevin Slater said:

NYT reported two days ago that another large tranche is coming over from Europe and the allocations were announced yesterday.  I suspect to see a text message soon.

Kevin Slater

The city was pretty excellent with the Covid vaccine rollout. Website, text messages and so on, so hopefully this will be the same.

[Xavitv]

I follow councilman Erik Bottcher on IG and he has been posting dates and hour when appointments are available. I got mine because I was glued to the website as soon as appointments were on lol

you could also try 877-VAC-NYC

[edinbrooklyn]

18 minutes ago, Xavitv said:

I follow councilman Erik Bottcher on IG and he has been posting dates and hour when appointments are available. I got mine because I was glued to the website as soon as appointments were on lol

you could also try 877-VAC-NYC

Thank you. I’ll keep plugging away. That number is 877-VAX-4NYC.

877-829-4692

[Xavitv]

Thanks!

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

15 hours ago, menaughty said:

 

@BenjaminNicholas are you in Dallas area? I might have missed the post here if you have already gotten the vaccine. If yes, where did you go?

I got it in Toronto on a recent visit.

Texas is sorta fucked at the moment with large cities falling way behind the eight-ball.

My advice: If you're a sexually active gay man who has no plans to limit his conquests, I'd suggest a weekend trip somewhere you can get the jab ASAP.

[LookingAround]

1 hour ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

I got it in Toronto on a recent visit.

Texas is sorta fucked at the moment with large cities falling way behind the eight-ball.

My advice: If you're a sexually active gay man who has no plans to limit his conquests, I'd suggest a weekend trip somewhere you can get the jab ASAP.

What I did too

[Wanderoz]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/07/28/monkeypox-emergency-san-francisco-new-york/
 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/07/28/who-monkeypox-advice-men-sex/

[Wanderoz]

Also

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/07/27/monkeypox-gay-men-vaccine-treatment/

[+ The Big Guy]

3 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

I got it in Toronto on a recent visit.

Texas is sorta fucked at the moment with large cities falling way behind the eight-ball.

My advice: If you're a sexually active gay man who has no plans to limit his conquests, I'd suggest a weekend trip somewhere you can get the jab ASAP.

You are right on Texas and this problem.  I am in houston and there is no reason to ask for the vaccine unless you have been exposed and even then I understand it is tough to get a response.   I am worried about my “friend” who gives massages on the side.  From what I can tell Houston has been given about 5000 doses.   Hope I can hold out.  

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

36 minutes ago, The Big Guy said:

You are right on Texas and this problem.  I am in houston and there is no reason to ask for the vaccine unless you have been exposed and even then I understand it is tough to get a response.   I am worried about my “friend” who gives massages on the side.  From what I can tell Houston has been given about 5000 doses.   Hope I can hold out.  

There really are shades of the HIV/AIDS crisis of the '80s and how the federal govt (and by extension, individual states) ignored it.  It's an ugly look.

I truly hope they ramp up the crisis response better than what we've seen so far.

Edited July 29, 2022 by BenjaminNicholas

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

The public health agency in Las Vegas started administering Monkey Pox vaccines this week Monday.  I walked in today and received my first dose with less than five minute wait.  They told me to come back in four weeks for my second dose, no appointment needed.

While I was there, a steady stream of 18 men and 2 women came to be vaccinated.  No one was turned away.

[Tactile Daddy]

2 hours ago, The Big Guy said:

You are right on Texas and this problem.  I am in houston and there is no reason to ask for the vaccine unless you have been exposed and even then I understand it is tough to get a response.   I am worried about my “friend” who gives massages on the side.  From what I can tell Houston has been given about 5000 doses.   Hope I can hold out.  

Houston received an initial shipment of 5000 doses. A tiny amount compared to what other cities are receiving. 

It was just announced today that an additional 16,000 doses are on the way 

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/health-science/2022/07/29/429377/houston-region-to-receive-more-monkeypox-vaccine-doses-as-case-numbers-climb/

[Tactile Daddy]

Here's an informative article shedding light on why the roll out of the Jynneos vaccine has been so terribly slow. Stockpiles were virtually non existent for starters... 

https://time.com/6198298/monkeypox-vaccine-shortage/

 

In all honesty seems like a great time to be patient and practice some restraint if you're a highly active man, keeping your encounters to a limited pod you feel comfortable and safe with until more vaccine gets rolled out and distributed. Seems like a small price to pay for some piece of mind 

[+ Tygerscent]

On 7/9/2022 at 8:58 AM, Rod Hagen said:

I don't think I can make it to Montreal, but I will get vaccinated as soon as it's available here.  Congratulations, and damn you 🙂 , to those of you jabbed in Canada.  

Someone in this thread, who did read this morning's NYTimes article, said we should keep this in perspective because there aren't many MonkeyP cases.  If you read the article, then you know that the worry, which may look like hysteria, but isn't, is the serious concern that the disease will spiral out of control if we don't get a better handle on it now.

And so the comparisons to Covid are not that it is also wide spread, but that we are currently handling the MonkeyP outbreak as poorly as we handled Cov-19, and that's not good. Nobody's saying that it will ever be as "bad" as Covid, although who knows?, only that if we don't act now, it could get much much worse.  

Don't know if anyone linked to this article about an actor's experience:

https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022/07/01/weho-victim-of-monkeypox-this-sucks-and-you-dont-want-it/

I just spent three weeks in England… it’s a real concern and hitting the gay population in London and other cities BUT, they are also Organizing monkey pox vaccination clinics and advocating for their safety before things get crazy~ What we don’t need is another “Gay Disease” and the stigma that comas along with that. Prevention is the best Medicine~ 

 Wise communities address problems before  things become broken or affect an individual personally… Prevention is a strength…  

[+ Travis69]

In Washington DC got appt. 4 hours after pre-registering.  Appt. is for this coming Monday.  Must show proof of residency.  Very easy.

[+ nycman]

"Proof of residency"???
"Proof of Prep"???

What the fuck is wrong with these public health "officials"???

It’s about getting as many shots into as many arms as we can ASAP.
They’ve already fucked around and lost almost 2 months, while 
the disease continues to spread unabated. And it’s still a massive 
clusterfuck. 

Don’t even get me started on the idiocy surrounding trying to get
your hands on "treatment" for severe cases……good fucking luck. 
It would be easier to smuggle the drugs out of North Korea than 
obtain them from the ”official" channels. 

Morons. 

[+ glutes]

The 'Up Your Alley' fair ( the warm up for Folsom Fair)  should be interesting this year...

https://48hills.org/2022/07/gay-men-dore-alley-festival-folsom-street-monkeypox-plan/

 

 

Edited July 30, 2022 by glutes

[SirBillybob]

Current HIV PrEP uptake is highly correlated with both risk and incidence of Monkeypox infection. As such, it is a clear identifiable dichotomous variable to integrate into the eligibility hierarchy, not unlike age wrt to CoV vaccination. Similarly, age wrt CoV was correlated with cluster transmission owing to settings housing the aged. This is analogous to PrEP recipients’ trends of congregating with like and stimulating forward transmission. The HIV PrEP subgroup priority is similar to PEP ring vaccination, but it is more anticipatory than established exposure to a confirmed case. The CDC is now categorizing this as Monkeypox PEP++, not PrEP. The latter category is reduced in scope and specific to occupational exposure such as lab work directly with orthopox viruses. There is nothing odd about PEP++ if supply is limited and mitigating incidence is the goal … 

Edited July 30, 2022 by SirBillybob

[Tactile Daddy]

1 minute ago, SirBillybob said:

Current HIV PrEP uptake is highly correlated with both risk and incidence of Monkeypox infection. As such, it is a clear identifiable dichotomous variable to integrate into the eligibility hierarchy, not unlike age wrt to CoV vaccination. Similarly, age wrt CoV was correlated with cluster transmission owing to settings housing the aged. This is analogous to PrEP recipients’ trends of congregating  with like and stimulating forward transmission. The HIV PrEP subgroup priority is similar to PEP ring vaccination, but it is more anticipatory than established exposure to a confirmed case. The CDC is now categorizing this as Monkeypox PEP++, not PrEP. The latter category is reduced in scope and specific to occupational exposure such as lab work directly with orthopox viruses. There is nothing odd about PEP++ if supply is limited and mitigating incidence is the goal … 

Thank you for a fact based and logical response. The histrionics previous are tiring AF 

[+ nycman]

40 minutes ago, SirBillybob said:

Current HIV PrEP uptake is highly correlated with both risk and incidence of Monkeypox infection. As such, it is a clear identifiable dichotomous variable to integrate into the eligibility hierarchy, not unlike age wrt to CoV vaccination. Similarly, age wrt CoV was correlated with cluster transmission owing to settings housing the aged. This is analogous to PrEP recipients’ trends of congregating  with like and stimulating forward transmission. The HIV PrEP subgroup priority is similar to PEP ring vaccination, but it is more anticipatory than established exposure to a confirmed case. The CDC is now categorizing this as Monkeypox PEP++, not PrEP. The latter category is reduced in scope and specific to occupational exposure such as lab work directly with orthopox viruses. There is nothing odd about PEP++ if supply is limited and mitigating incidence is the goal … 

Incredibly intelligent response. You are obviously an extremely well
educated man who understands, and perhaps even develops, many
of the current public health policies being promoted. 

Sorry, I’m just an East Village punk who survived the 80’s.

Get the shots into any fucker who says they’re at risk and is willing
to stand still long enough to fucking get it.

Analysis paralysis and mental masterbating by infectious disease
specialists have already cost us 2 months. Let’s not even mention
leaving over a million vaccine doses in a refrigerator in Denmark for
months on end.

And their idiotic initial attempt at "ring prophylaxis" was a day late,
a dollar short, massively misunderstood the sexual behaviors of gay
men, and a massive failure…..1982 anyone?

You’re trying to hit a charging rhino with a single shot rifle at 1,000 feet
(and your first several shots have already missed) and I’m trying to hit
anything that moves with an AK-47. Honestly, I’m not sure which one
of us is right, and neither are you. Just remember that in medicine better
is often the opposite of good. 

Now, where the fuck is Larry Kramer when we need him?

[Kevin Slater]

Moderator's note:  Gents, let's take tone the rhetoric down a bit here.

[+ jeezopete]

And then there's Florida....

Here's the plan for the vaccine:

Phase 1

• Laboratory and select health care personnel at high risk for exposure.
• Close contacts of monkeypox cases.
• HIV-diagnosed "MSM" who have a CD4 lymphocyte count under 200 and had a potential exposure to monkeypox.
• "MSM" who have a recent history of an sexually transmitted infection.

Phase 2

• All HIV-diagnosed MSM with potential exposure, regardless of CD4 count.

Phase 3

• All "MSM."
• Other high-risk groups.

The phases are additive, meaning the pool of eligible groups does not change, it only expands.

Full article:  https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/health-news-florida/2022-07-29/monkeypox-how-florida-will-roll-out-vaccine

[+ nycman]

3 minutes ago, jeezopete said:

And then there's Florida....

Here's the plan for the vaccine:

Phase 1

• Laboratory and select health care personnel at high risk for exposure.
• Close contacts of monkeypox cases.
• HIV-diagnosed "MSM" who have a CD4 lymphocyte count under 200 and had a potential exposure to monkeypox.
• "MSM" who have a recent history of an sexually transmitted infection.

Phase 2

• All HIV-diagnosed MSM with potential exposure, regardless of CD4 count.

Phase 3

• All "MSM."
• Other high-risk groups.

The phases are additive, meaning the pool of eligible groups does not change, it only expands.

Full article:  https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/health-news-florida/2022-07-29/monkeypox-how-florida-will-roll-out-vaccine

Not a bad plan, given we have a limited supply at the moment, but it
would be nice if we had a nation wide standard, instead of leaving it
up to each state / locale to decide. The current system is all over the
place and is leading to lots of confusion and frustration. Two things that
you definitely want to minimize during an outbreak. 

Even within New York, NYC is following one playbook and other areas of 
the state are following different ones.