Jamie21

I don’t think they’re all that bothered about fake pics, unless the pic owner complains. It’s quite difficult to police if someone is using pics that aren’t theirs. But I think having professionals using the app to sell services goes against their business model, and is unlawful in some countries so I guess there’s a legal aspect to it too.

The clients offering advice are often doing so from a position of ignorance about the business. Yes they might have hired, but that’s not a qualification to understand what it’s like to be hired. I’ve eaten fabulous meals in restaurants but I wouldn’t profess that that qualifies me to tell the chef how to run their kitchen. If offered the advice I receive it with grace, and ignore it. I’ll take advice from those who have walked in my shoes.

You’ll get banned, that’s inevitable! I wasn’t even advertising but my pictures probably implied that I was for hire (if I was posting the correct pictures of course 😏) and I’d get enquiries, and a few clients but someone must have complained because I got warned (which was simply an indication to me to be more careful / subtle) and then banned. If you solicit or buy on there you’ll end up banned. Actually think that’s fair enough, it’s not meant for paid gigs or hiring and there’s plenty of better places to advertise for that. The quality of clients I had from Grindr was low (unreliable/flaky). You’ll probably find the quality of guys you hire is similarly low.

There’s an oxymoron! I’m very exhibitionist. Having an audience is great fun. I’ve a client who is similarly into public displays who hires me to accompany him to a sauna or sex club and play with him exclusively in open areas. He loves it. I’ve also worked at parties to get things going and encourage interaction. I think there’s something quite liberating about having sex in a room full of still clothed people who are engaging in polite small talk over white wine and canapés! It encourages the more adventurous couples and singles to strip off and join in.

Not from me. Rate is same regardless of the client.

Ask the guy you hire for suggestions. Tell him what you like and use his expertise to structure it. For longer sessions I’ve included things like an undressing, shower together, obviously massage, a break for refreshments (snack, drink), gym session or workout, watch some porn (preferably mine 🤪), stretching/yoga. There’s loads of things you can do around having physical fun together too. You can also invite another provider for part of the session to mix things up if you have the budget for that. I’ve done sessions where it’s me with the client for the whole time but another guy joins us for part of it. I’d recommend that if you did that then it’s best for the two providers to know each other so that they’re comfortable together and can focus on you during the session.

Or vaguely notorious. That’s what I am.

Some clients are just notoriously vague. I think it comes with the work. I don’t like it, it’s frustrating, I agree with @Jarrod_Uncut . Some clients are just window shopping or indulging themselves in an ‘I might hire’ fantasy. I tend to work from a studio in central London. I don’t live there but I’m often in the vicinity and I see clients there or at their hotel or home if it’s reasonable travel distance. Many times I finish my day, make my way home or to do something else and a potential client will message “hi, are you available this evening?”. Too late…I left the studio. Had they asked earlier I’d have probably seen them. Others message about availability in coming week. I provide days / times and hear nothing back. Then they message on the day and ask to book. Too late! I made other plans or took another booking because they didn’t take their opportunity when it was there. What do these potential clients think I’m doing? Sitting around all day waiting for them to make their mind up? I’m sorry to have to decline them of course, but I do think that if you want a good experience with someone decent then it’s highly unlikely they’ll be available for you at the drop of a hat.

Thanks! He lived in London, we did a few films together. Initially when he hadn’t done the face reveal. He’s great fun and has his head screwed on so he’s obviously making a great success of his filming career.

I’ve collaborated with him a few times for my justforfans. He’s a great guy, good fun and really hot. I understand he’s travelling a lot doing collaborations and so is probably not available for escorting.

It would be massive! Dear @Vegas_Millennial Following your consultation with Dr Dick, he has prescribed a treatment for you of 5 sessions a week for 3 months with an NHS approved provider. Your first treatment will be on 3 June 2047. Yours sincerely NHS Sexcare

Not in UK though. Doctors here are free 😉.

Some become investment bankers because shafting their clients is a transferable skill.

Yes and then 30 mins on the Elizabeth line from LHR to my studio 😃

Sounds like you’ve been very unlucky! None of what they did is very professional. You should be made to feel welcome, safe and comfortable, then aroused! Maybe you’re picking the wrong guys to hire? If they have a list of things they won’t do, their pics look too good to be true, they’re difficult to make the booking with, they don’t ask you any questions about what you’re looking for, they don’t have a website or other signs of a professional approach (such as their prices are ‘ask me’), or they use baby oil to massage you 😱….then it’s likely they will be like those you already saw. The guys who do this unprofessionally are just out to make a quick buck off you. They tend to disappear after a while. Go for guys who’ve been doing it a good few years who take a professional approach to it. They’ll give you a proper massage and include sensuality and intimacy. They’ll listen to you about what you’re looking for and be intuitive to provide it. I don’t know where you are so I can’t make any suggestions as to who to book, I’ll leave that to others.. (I think some of the US based guys who regularly post on here sound great though - try them!). But if you ever visit London come to me for a massage. I see lots of clients who are new to sensual / erotic massage. I won’t answer the door mid massage, tell you off for looking at me, or keep any clothes on 😉.

I filmed a collaboration with him recently (it’s on my justforfans now 😉). Lovely guy! We will film another one if he visits London again, or if I visit the US.

Laconic

Interesting topic. The transactional nature of escort / erotic massage coming up against the organic and random nature of sexual interaction. To what extent does planning and agreeing the content of a session beforehand, for the purpose of agreeing the rate etc detract from the pleasure and excitement of the reality of the session as it unfolds? I think that many of the best experiences are those that are unplanned. Trying to recreate those in a paid environment is difficult if the details of the session are too choreographed or if there’s an upsell negotiation in the middle! It’s why I like to know what my massage clients specifically don’t want rather than what they do want. We take it for given they do want a great massage and a release. I like to think of it like a painting. I ask for their frame (their definite boundaries) and they leave me to paint a picture within the frame. Having the frame is great because it helps creativity in the session and that makes it interesting and exciting for the client and me. I price the session in that context and of course if the client is happy they may leave a tip but most importantly to me is that they come back. Repeat clients are the mainstay of this work.

I agree with @Shawn Monroe. Clients can be very cagey about what they want, with it changing between when they book and when they turn up, or even during the session. I’ve had clients book and expect a sensual massage only for them to ask for full service part way through. I think my advertising and pricing is clear, it includes erotic massage and everything short of ‘full service’. But that still doesn’t stop people wanting it during the session, even though I’m not offering an up sell during the session. Some want me to bottom but I’ve not prepared (nor charged) for that so I have to decline. All parties to the transaction should be clear about what is and isn’t included beforehand because it saves a lot of problems. That’s assuming it’s legally possible / safe to do so. Where I work it’s fine to be very clear so I always recommend clients to ask me if they really want anything included.

If you get anxious about it then you tend to tense up and then it does become difficult. The trick is to relax. After the initial pain if you can relax a little then you’ll find it becomes easier, and enjoyable. Find a top who is considerate and who is versatile because he’ll understand better how it feels. I rarely bottom because I prefer to top but if I do bottom (whether that’s in porn or for a client - I don’t bottom recreationally) I find it’s best to try different positions because some are more comfortable than others. I also prefer to be in control of the depth and pace etc if I bottom (but that’s probably just me preferring to take the active role!). I hope you manage to try it because it can be amazing!

It’s indicative of an unprofessional approach to your session. Avoid those guys and book someone who takes the work seriously.

I never talk about other clients with clients! Strict rule - absolute discretion. I’m fine to discuss other providers who I know, to give my perspective on whether the client would like the guy. I think the general rule I use is that if you can’t say anything nice or positive then don’t say anything atall.

That’s wrong of him, if it was discussed beforehand as being included. I think you were right to wrap it up.

That’s interesting that they finish when they finish so to speak!! If I cum early in the session that’s not the end of it. I think if the client booked an hour or whatever time and my view is that’s what they expect. In general I won’t cum and that’s usually fine with most clients. However some clients specifically want me to cum and I prefer to know that in advance. I had a client last week who wanted me to cum on his chest. He’d booked 90 minutes and got his load after 30 (his choice). Trouble is he wanted another one later on…. I didn’t have any more clients so he got the second load (then he came himself) but I found it very challenging.

If you’re in the UK Sleepyboy.com is the main source for escorts.