Jamie21

I’m aware a few guys on here have hired me, but I’m not revealing who because I’m nice and discreet.

Oh I’ve set some expectation level now haven’t I 😂😂. Happy to do an outcall to NYC (I fly business class, stay at 4 star hotels. Very reasonable 😉).

That’s right, but what does make a difference is how the client behaves. He could be the perfect physical specimen for me (as in 100% my type) but if he’s an asshole (as in disrespectful, demanding, ignorant) then nothing much will happen and what does might feel stilted. It will still be a great massage etc but that bit ‘extra’ is missing. I think if someone is like that then they probably wouldn’t notice the difference anyway! Looks are superficial, it might be an initial spur to attraction but behaviour is the key. If the client is respectful etc then I’m into them because they’ve chosen me to be their masseur. I don’t mind what they look like; an attractive personality is by far the greatest turn on. Add the setting of a sensual massage and you have all the ingredients for a great session. I agree with @pubic_assistance that some clients want 100% of the focus to be on them. If that’s their thing then that’s what they get. Most guys that do sex work get off on giving. If giving means 100% focus on the client that’s fine. Within the bounds of what you’re prepared to do for the rate etc then ‘giving’ can also include having the client watch or help you to climax. That’s giving too because the client wants it. If the client doesn’t want it or if it’s not in my repertoire then it’s not happening.

Sounds like you do! I’m avoiding 5 or 6 per day because well, I don’t get that many clients asking in the first place! …but even if I did I wouldn’t book that many. The physical stamina aspect is part of the reason although I swim and run distances so I probably have that kind of stamina for it but it’s the mental and emotional energy that I need to be aware of. I try to get into a state of flow when massaging, so that I’m doing it without consciously thinking. It’s difficult to do that and I don’t always succeed. However when fully in that state I’m acutely aware of the person I’m massaging: I can hear their breathing, feel their heartbeat, feel their temperature changes, see the slightest change in how they react to touch on different parts of their body. I think it makes for a much more intense experience for the client. On the surface of it I’m just working their muscles in a normal massage way but that’s only a small part of it. At the deeper level I’m working their whole body including their mind. If I’m in a proper state of flow then it’s as if we are not two bodies any more, we are one body and I feel what they feel, and I can sense what their state of mind is. The energy that takes is massive. I think this kind of massage is more of an eastern philosophy of massage than the western one. If I tried to do more than 3 a day I’d not be able to do my style of massage.

It could be both. I’m not bothered about being called a sex worker, I use the term to describe myself. I like to also give a great proper massage. Clients get a great massage, and a ‘happy ending’ (in fact the massage builds to the happy ending), and if they want me to ejaculate as part of that then I’m happy to do that too. If that’s sex work then that’s great! No problem with it.

I’d never do 6 massages in a day. That’s too tough for me! Regardless of ejaculating… The most I do is 3 a day and I’d spread out the third one. It’s mentally and physically draining to me to do more than 3 in a day. Despite what sounds like an escort type session (yes I am happy to cum, I include oral and rim for example) I do make sure I give a proper massage, not an ‘escort style’ rub using baby oil! Doing a full massage with attention to the energy of the client, not just working their muscles but working their whole self, mind and body, is draining. By the third massage I’m done. I don’t want to risk giving clients a bad experience or getting injured so I stop at 3.

And to others, when they’re paying they want to see the masseur ejaculating (before they ejaculate). If that’s what they want then I’m happy to oblige. Every client is unique.

Yay! My porn videos did get nominated a year ago actually 🤪

It’s a regular thing clients want. I usually kneel with my legs either side of their hips and cum on their chest or face as I bring them off with my hand behind me. It’s a great visual for them. The trick is timing it so that I cum just before they do 😉

I love kissing, and an happy to do it with clients but I agree, many clients don’t want that level of intimacy. They’ll be fine to do everything else but kissing is seen as indicative of some kind of emotional attachment, especially with straight clients. If a provider really doesn’t want to kiss ever then I think he should say so in his adverts. If kissing is conditional then that should be discussed with clients if they specifically ask about it. However, the most important thing is that if you’re going to kiss…you MUST kiss properly. Kissing is a skill, it’s so much better with a good kisser.

I’ve accompanied clients to saunas in the past. It’s not very common but it has happened and I see no problem with it if it is genuinely what the client wants. A couple of times it was because the clients were too anxious to go to a sauna alone (both were first timers) so it was simple to book me to accompany them and be exclusive to them at the sauna, and show them the etiquette. There’s a big fear of being at a sauna and no one is interested in you and both clients had that anxiety. They wanted me to go in with them, stay with them and play with them (one was happy to do that in the open areas of the sauna, the other guy preferred using a cabin). It worked fine, the clients realised that going to a sauna need not be such a daunting experience. I don’t think it’s any different to say going to the cinema or for a meal with the client. You’re going to a sauna, it could be that you simply use the sauna to sit and chat. As for being seen with a sex worker I don’t think it’s much of an issue if you’re in a sauna. What’s everyone else there for? I have been at a sauna with a client when I saw another client but at first I didn’t recognise him. He found me later on when I was showering alone while my client was getting dressed and introduced himself. I had to apologise to him because I realised I’d ignored him. He found it funny but he realised I was ‘working’. At least I was being discreet and didn’t introduce him to my other client.

I’ve just come back from 5 days in France. I like regular short breaks. Yes some business is lost because I’m away but I think these clients just find another date to book so I’m not too bothered by being unavailable for a week. I’m self employed so any time I’m not working I’m not earning. I tend to end up doing work every day so it’s really important to me to carve out time when I’m unavailable and I can properly relax. Yes there’s days when I have no clients booked but I end up doing other work on those days ( writing, filming, learning stuff) so as long as that work is the type of thing that can be done anytime anywhere then it’s ideal to fit around clients. I love having the flexibility of working when I want to, answering to only me. I’d never go back to a 9 to 5 job.

I’d say the problem is mixing human drivers with computer drivers. Once every car is driven by a computer then I’ll be ok they’re safer than the current arrangement. Until then I’ll worry about how the interaction is managed. I expect that road traffic accidents will reduce once humans are no longer driving. Computers don’t do drink, drugs, road rage, fall asleep at the wheel, speed, lose concentration etc…

I bet it comes with a different charger to my iPhone, and my iPad, and my iMac 🙄

I agree. It’s not my experience either. The guys I work with all keep their focus on the client. Of course I’m into the guy in working with, and he’s into me (I wouldn’t recommend him otherwise) but we make sure we’re doing what the client wants. I was doing a 4 hands with another masseur I work with regularly recently and we were about halfway through the routine. Client was laying on his front. I was stood at the side massaging the client’s back and the other masseur was doing same other side. He then came round to my side and stood behind me. I bent over the table to suck the clients fingers (I know the client likes that) and as I did my partner took the opportunity to rim me. After about a minute of this I noticed the client lift his head quickly to see what was happening so I signalled to my partner to get back to the client. Of course some clients like to watch us but unless they’ve specifically requested a show then I think it’s important that all interactions between me and the other guy are inclusive with the client. I did make the mistake one time of neglecting the client which I felt bad about (client was fine about it) but it was unprofessional I think.

I don’t think you’re in the minority. I agree with you, and I think most providers would. I don’t care what my clients look like. Sometimes someone is really fat and that presents logistical problems but it doesn’t mean he isn’t deserving of having fun. Some of my clients are disabled and I know they’ve told me some guys turned them down which I find really sad. It’s their loss because those clients are some of my best.

I think sometimes clients send a face pic or a body pic voluntarily because they want to be reassured that the escort or masseur likes them. I’ve had clients send pics voluntarily and ask me if they’re suitable to come. Of course they’re suitable! They don’t realise that it just doesn’t matter to me what they look like. It matters to me that they want to book me because they like what they see and what I might be able to do for them. It’s about them accepting me much more than it is about me accepting them. The irony is that being hired is the greatest turn on.

I mean a red flag is just that. One signal but not definitive. If it’s accompanied by other signs then that’s a proceed with caution. You see things from your perspective of course but you always say different people have different opinions based on their perspective. And that’s my opinion based on my perspective that a provider asking for a pic of the client is a red flag. Of course my perspective is from a place where sex work is legal and so that has an impact on the importance or otherwise of needing a pic.

That’s different though. The provider hasn’t asked for it. I’m saying the provider specifically asking for a picture is a red flag to the client. They should beware of the provider that only wants to see ‘hot’ clients because it’s a potential sign he’s not really interested in his clients satisfaction. The only reason I might need to know a client’s physical description is if they’re too big for the massage table or if they have a disability. Most clients offer those things up without me asking. Otherwise I find out when they turn up. I’ve never met a guy who has a pic of his ‘frontal areas’ that under represents his size! I agree though…if I know he’s got big equipment and wants to top me I’ll be extra well prepared 🤪

The photo request is a red flag. Regardless of the deposit issue you were right to disengage when he asked for a photo. He shouldn’t need a photo.

I’ve done this. The client asked me to set it up for him. It was one element of the session rather than being the sole aim of the session. He just wanted to experience a few different scenarios one of which was to be in the middle. Once I knew the kind of session he wanted I knew who to ask to join me for it (it was a guy I’ve worked with before who I know has great chemistry etc). I think you should find a provider you know (maybe hire him on his own first), make sure you’re comfortable with him and then explain what you want and ask him to set it up. He’ll find the right guy for you. Also, it’s best to have a few things that you want to try so that the sandwich isn’t the only objective of the session (it takes the pressure off). Probably also best to find two guys who are both vers, because they can swap roles which makes it more interesting for you.

You can ask for it, you can set yourself up in expectation of it, you can respond appropriately when you don’t get it, all this I agree with and do myself, but I think you can’t command it. That’s like standing at the sea shore and commanding the tide to turn, and being frustrated when it doesn’t. I argue that it’s best to accept that some people will be flaky etc and despite all your efforts they’ll still be like that and they’ll still try it on with you. It’s futile to expect everyone to change. This is human nature, alongside the good there’s the bad. The good cannot exist without the bad. So I reconcile myself to it because it’s essential for one’s well being in this business.

It’s very rare that I can see a client at short notice. I usually need at least a day’s notice because I’m busy with stuff (other work, clients, life admin, social etc). I’m sure that some clients think I’m sitting around all day waiting for someone to book me…and they seem surprised when they message to ask if I’m free later, or even now. I have clients who book months in advance sometimes. These tend to be people visiting London so they book well ahead. Usually though most clients tend to book with a few days notice and that works fine.

They’re probably getting enough business by just being available. No need to do much in the way of customer service. You can assume that if that’s their attitude to the enquiry process their attitude to the massage will be equally diffident. If that’s the case you saved yourself some money and time. Hire guys who answer your questions and who have a professional advert that provides the necessary information.

Clients don’t kiss too. I saw a client recently who described himself as ‘basically straight but exploring with guys’ before his massage. I asked him before we started if there was anywhere I shouldn’t go, or was he happy for me to read his reactions and go with the flow. He was ok with the go with the flow option so that’s what I did. He didn’t touch me atall and lay still through most of the session. Sometimes with inexperienced ‘straight’ guys they get anxious when I go near their bum but he was fine with me touching, and even rimming. I lubed him up and he was ok with finger prostate massage too. When he turned over he was hard and clearly enjoying it but he remained totally impassive and silent. I kissed his nipples to get a reaction and there was nothing. So I thought I’d try a kiss. Sometimes it takes that and then all of a sudden the guys inhibition goes and he relaxes. I don’t just go and kiss him though, I just whisper into his ear ‘do you like to kiss?’. Then he can turn his head and we kiss. But this guy replies to my kiss suggestion with ‘only with females’….so that was that!