Jamie21

Like this? ( it’s me bottoming 😉) https://media.invisioncic.com/k323430/monthly_2024_12/IMG_3596.jpeg.2c6eb675b59c3d1d54dafdf40cf013e1.jpeg Edited by moderator to remove explicit pic in public forum.

Was after the HE. Probably the way I licked the cum up from his navel to his chest and then looked into his eyes as I lifted my head. Too erotic.

I can think of a couple of my clients who, if I gave a green light to, would push it further and seek a non financial relationship. I’m careful to keep a professional distance with them, which is indeed a tightrope because of the service. For example I include kissing, it gets very passionate, intimate. They think ‘he doesn’t do this with others, only me’. It’s very easy for someone who might be vulnerable and open to a relationship to think one is available. I’ve had a client tell me he loved me, and I didn’t see that coming. Total shock. My advice to clients; don’t mistake a professionals skill for something else. If you start to fall for him, step away. If you can’t, be prepared for disappointment. If the provider initiates a relationship outside of the professional then you can go for it.

I was thrown when a guy first called me daddy. It was quite a surprise. In his situation it couldn’t have been one where he was expecting financial benefits because he was the one paying me, as a client of mine. As he explained to me after the massage he’s attracted to older guys (he was early 20’s). He said he found guys his age to be too immature. Since that occasion I’ve discovered there’s loads of guys like him who are attracted to older guys, especially those who are in shape. I’m not complaining and now I actually play up to the daddy role for them.

I’d say no you’re not. Find the right guy to hire and you’ll feel 20 again. If you approach it with the attitude that you’re not suitable then it’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Pretend if you have to, at least initially, because if you believe you’re worthy of hiring then you will be. Some of my clients are 60’s, a few 70+. Some are 20’s. Those who feel sexy are sexy, those who doubt themselves struggle to get into it. I believe it’s all to do with how you think. Go for it.

I have done this kind of thing a few times, not for a client but for a professional acquaintance. I attend as a demo masseur at his massage themed parties. Think house party with a carefully curated guest list of around 80 people who have paid to attend. It’s a mix of couples and singles, male and female (about 50:50) of all orientations: straight, gay, bisexual, bi curious (whatever that is) and obviously all open to the idea of erotic massage and sex in a group social setting even if for many of them this is new to them. It can be challenging because you’re working so you need to stay aware of what’s going on. The host asks me to get things going of course (not a problem for an exhibitionist!) but also to keep an eye out for anyone being harassed or pestered which can happen even when the guest list has been carefully vetted. He also asks me to pay attention to those who may be on their own or anxious and if say a husband wants to explore with a gay guy then I help him with that. I find it’s really interesting watching people and being involved with the dynamics at such a party. I’ve got plenty of new clients from them too. I’d definitely recommend doing something like it even if it takes up time. I usually spend around 6 hours at the party (including being there before the start) so in terms of money it’s not the same value as a client session but it’s definitely worth it for me in terms of profile and learning.

Make this clear to him, that you’re hiring and not looking for something off the clock. In my experience some clients, after even a couple of sessions that went well, progress quickly to a very casual kind of interaction where it implies they’ve moved from client status to friend status in their head. I get ‘hey how are you?’ messages and ‘would be great to see you again’. It’s difficult to respond to that so you just ignore it or send a 👍. I get the sense that they’re fishing for me to say “sure let’s meet for a drink” or to start a chat over text about random stuff. I don’t want to hurt his feelings or lose a client so I just respond with the minimum necessary to remain polite. You’re the client, so it’s up to you to make it clear you want to hire him and you’re not looking for anything else. Don’t be ambiguous. If you do want a relationship, say so clearly, and then you’ll find out (…it might be painful). It sounds like he’s good at the job, and what he is doing is keeping a professional distance, which any good escort would.

This one is very important. All those things @Simon Suraci said are helpful but I think this one is a must have. You’re going to get intimate with the guy you hire (you hope… if you’re hiring for a sensual massage) so you have to feel comfortable with him. Doesn’t matter if he looks like a Greek God and he’s a fabulous masseur: if his personality or behaviour makes you anxious it’s a waste of time. If you’re hiring just for the quality of technical massage with no intention of any sensual or erotic elements then I’d say you don’t even need pictures. Just go by his or her style and qualifications. I’ve had great technical massages from masseuses and masseurs but it’s very different from a great sensual massage and I’d use very different criteria to make my selection.

I’m in London. Visit London.

Thanks @Martin M I’ve got some stories about my experiences on my blog on my website sensualtouchco.com. When I stop doing the work I’m going to write a book.

That’s how I do it with virtually every massage if given the option to do so by my client. I don’t start naked, they start with a towel on. It begins just like a therapeutic only massage. For example if it’s a two hour session (the best duration to do a proper job) the towel is still on him after 30 minutes, I’m still fully in shorts and top, no oil has been applied, no touch has been made to his bum or cock or anywhere near and we’re already 25% of the way through the session…..that might sound like nothing erotic has happened but that’s such a misunderstanding of the situation! There’s all sorts of cues and hints one can do to build the sexual tension 😉. Everything has happened…in his head because I’ve put it there. This, in my view is the best kind of session because I focus my attention on his biggest sex organ, his mind… and there’s so so much one can do there. Most guys might have had what I call a rub and tug style ‘sensual’ massage. It’s an average therapeutic massage with a jerk off. I think the majority of providers advertising do that kind of session. It’s like fast food, briefly satisfying and can serve a purpose. Sometimes clients want just that, a quick massage or even to climax in the first 10 minutes and then relax into a nice therapeutic style massage. I do those kind of ‘happy start’ sessions for a few guys who just can’t wait and can only relax once they’ve cum. However when clients experience a proper sensual massage over 2 hours, where the masseur works their body and their mind…well that’s gourmet and after that they don’t want to go back to fast food.

He doesn’t seem to be getting much sympathy. I think it would be better if he’d survived the shooting but injured…. and had his insurer refuse to pay for his treatment. Our healthcare in UK is rationed. There’s effectively unlimited demand and limited resources. Wait lists ration the treatment and work to reduce demand (people die waiting). If you don’t like to wait for treatment free at the point of use then you can buy treatment outside of the NHS either via insurance or pay directly. All the debate is about how effective the state provision is. In any system, private or state, the government needs to regulate the market. Whether it’s a state market or private market there will be incentives by the actors to use their power against the best interests of the customers. That could be profiteering, cartels, union power abuses. All the kinds of things that governments are supposed to prevent happening through good legislation and governance. This is a failure of government.

The trouble is, clients say they just want a great therapeutic massage, but then they try to make it into a HE style during the session by either pressing their hand into my shorts, caressing my leg, or asking me to remove the towel on them and opening their legs etc…. If you’re not paying sensual massage rates please don’t try and get a sensual or erotic style massage on the cheap…even if it’s a ‘last 5 minutes jerk off’. It’s happened too many times for me to offer that kind of massage so I stopped offering it and now do sensual/erotic only. Clients still get a great massage of course but at least the rate I’m getting reflects the content of the session.

The only info on clients I share (I’m not saying where) is if he’s violent, refuses to pay or is a serial time waster (no shows). I’ll share his number and the name he used. The number of clients I’ve seen is in 4 figures. The number of those who fall into the above category is 2. That’s because I screen them out but also because it’s pretty rare to get a client who is worth reporting. I’m never going to share details of those clients who may be a bit annoying, who are challenging to see, who like unusual things or who share condfidences with me. All of those things are 100% between me and him. I certainly know clients who visit friends of mine who do this work because I’ve referred them to him or he has referred me to them or we’ve both seen the client in a duo session. However I never discuss with my friends what happens in my sessions with the client. We talk ‘shop’ of course but without naming clients. It tends to be on things like hotels we visited, whether it’s busy, where to advertise etc. I think when you do this kind of work you realise that anything that happens between you and the client is specific to that situation. The client could behave differently with another guy. I had a client I could have sworn was 100% bottom but when I did a session for him with another provider the client topped us both. He was like a different guy. That’s why I think references have limited value. If you’re thinking of hiring they give you an idea but the dynamics of the guy you’re hiring and you are only ever going to be particular to the two of you at that time and moment. If one person has a bad experience sometime it doesn’t mean you will.

I have thoughts on this. If you’d like them my charge is $10. Sorry @TallMuscl37 but I couldn’t resist. I mean it kindly.

In any situation the person with the greatest flexibility in thinking is the most likely to succeed. Think about that in the context of the debates above.

I’ve done a collaboration with him. Great guy. It’s available on my justforfans 😉: MassageForHim

I agree, lots of red flags. Also, you could have been his first ever client. I remember I was very nervous when I saw my first client. I was lucky to get someone who I think knew I was inexperienced at the work and so he was patient with me. Also, if he didn’t look like his pics then he’s probably put up pics of someone else. Most of the pics visible could be anyone, and there’s only one private pic. I suspect the guy you saw is someone pretending to be a porn star escort and he’s used at least 1 pic of someone else. No wonder he was nervous!

Sometimes you just can’t. I’ve had it happen and of course the more anxious you get about it the harder it gets (or the softer it gets to be accurate 😂). Also, it’s nothing to do with the attractiveness or otherwise of the client. That’s a common misconception. It’s much more likely to be that he has other things on his mind, he’s seen other clients that day, or the client is doing something that is irritating. Sometimes clients can be quite clumsy and that can mean one struggles to stay hard. I saw a client recently who wanted me to shoot in his mouth (this after fucking him) so that happened..but then about 5 minutes later he wanted me to fuck him again. That simply wasn’t going to happen (plus time was nearly up). In massage sessions it’s not such a problem although if it does happen I can sense the client’s disappointment. But in sessions where the client expects to get fucked it can be a problem! If you’re a client the worst thing you can do is make a big thing of it because then nothing is going to work. Best to hide any disappointment, focus on all the other things that two guys can do together… and what you’re likely to find is before long he’s hard 🙂.

I can be there in 2 hours…

Oh! I think I over sold it 😂…. (but be assured. I don’t eat asparagus). No plans to visit Florida unfortunately.

Mine tastes like Ambrosia and feels like hosts of angels dancing on your tongue as it spreads silkily around your mouth. Just sayin’

Yes that’s what he implied. Before he’d cum he wanted it…as soon as he’d shot and I’d positioned myself to kiss him with a mouthful he changed his mind 😂. I think you’re not alone in that ‘instant switch from 😈 to 😇 mode’. I had to spit it all out.

A recent client shot in my mouth while I was sucking him. Earlier in the session we had been kissing. After he’d shot I asked him if he wanted to kiss me with his cum still in my mouth and on my lips. He declined. It’s my experience that cum swapping/ cum kissing is quite niche. Most clients aren’t really into it. Pity because I like it. I find it extremely hot.

Oh!! Update: I checked with my guy who does all my editing and managing my content…turns out he published them there! So they’re not pirated 😂.