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Although I certainly haven’t had it done, I’ve seen it more than a few times. It always looks like a disaster. Fat without being sexy. Chubby without being hard. Pretty useless at the end of the day. Love your penis boys. Don’t inject shit into it

I don't think I've ever met a gay man who was honest about his penis size. They all seem to measure from the tip to their taint instead of their shaft.
So it would be surprising indeed to have someone lie in the opposite direction.
When someone reports 8 inches I fully expect a dick of about 6.5".
If you told me 8 and showed up with a 10 I wouldn't necessarily be delighted. I know lots of gay men seem to be impressed by size but not me. At a certain point i think it looks gross, like I'm sleeping with a wild animal. But that's just me. Throwing it out there as a counterpoint. Bigger isn't always better.

this whole thread is politics and pro-genocide

Whoops! Political postings. Ball gags for the lot.

With a minimum $50 buy-in, I can't imagine too many around here will partake

Been there.  Helped them shoot the content - and then enjoyed the provider and his friend.   Gotta be helpful lol. 
 

There are only a limited number of OF members make more than 5k per month. That is why many advertise on RM. A multi hour appointment is financially quite attractive lol.

There are only a limited number of OF members make more than 5k per month. That is why many advertise on RM. A multi hour appointment is financially quite attractive lol.

Is it that difficult?   If you cover what, when, where and who in your first communication, you have pretty much established that you aren't a timewaster. 

Mainly it's picturing those "Nine ladies dancing" & "Eight maids a milking" in my head that ruin it for me! 😅

Why would you feel you'd have to tell a provider they're choice #2. Completely unnecessary. Zip it 😉

Agree.
The 'why' in this case doesn't matter and will start things off badly.  
Positive clients get repeat visits.  Negative clients are one and done.

Just move on and find someone else 

Doing this kind of work it is easy to get drawn into saying “yes” to all requests for bookings because you don’t want to turn down the business (you never know when the clients might stop coming). But I’ve found it’s important to draw some boundaries and keep some time sacrosanct for yourself. So whilst I’m happy to see clients on Christmas Eve, I’ll not take any bookings for 25th or 26th. 

This lawsuit was filed several months ago so today must be a slow news day 😂 

A massage is actually not a good thing when you're sick or getting sick.  It usually makes you feel worse.
https://www.shape.com/lifestyle/mind-and-body/massage-when-sick
I'd have preferred you cancel.  If you told me you were sick, I'd cancel on your behalf.
That he talked you into it says more about his need for money than his concern with his own health (and yours).

this all true.  However, that’s not the typical provider career trajectory 
Just go to RM (or similar) and sort by age: majority are less than 30 yrs old or they claim to be less.  The number of providers drops off significantly after age 30 and again after 40.  There are very few 40 - 50 and almost none over 50.  This isn’t disrespect for older providers…it’s just the facts based on online resources.  I prefer providers over 35 and am very familiar how few there are, depending on location.
And stands to reason if there are very few working guys over age 40, then very few have made it a longterm successful career & were able to completely retire. 

On the flip side, the guys over 40 in my experience, tend to be more professional, serious & treat the job as a real career.  If someone approaches their work that way and is careful with their money, then entirely possible to retire. 
I think the markets are flooded with young guys thinking being a provider is easy money & try it for a while until they move on to something else. Or they figure out it’s not easy money and it’s not a good fit for their skill sets.   I’ve known some that have traditional jobs or in school and only do it part-time for extra income.
The guys who are true professionals and do this work long-term are few & far between.  My sense is those are the guys you go when you want to be guaranteed a great experience.

Just move on and find someone else 

Just move on and find someone else 

Just move on and find someone else 

Just move on and find someone else 

Just move on and find someone else 

I mean, he's young and working the social media angle.  It's all for the views/likes.
If he's lucky, he'll eventually save and invest.  
Also, if he's lucky, he'll develop an actual level of good taste and not just go for expensive shiny shit.
As a rentboy in my 20s, I did some of this.  Spent $15k a month on random garbage, travel, cars, food, etc.  Hindsight being 20/20, I'd have dumped most of it into my portfolio and doubled my money, but what's done is done. 
It was, however, a very fun few years of complete irresponsibility  

Lapsed security certificates 😂 

@Jarrod_Uncut you know I love you man. You know I wish you success. We disagree on a lot of things and that’s ok. I’m comfortable with that and have respect for our differences.
I’m the kind of guy who will invest his heart and soul into helping others, at the expense of his own sanity sometimes. At some point I have to give up for my own mental health because the other person isn’t interested in help or ideas or getting better, but emotionally it costs me a lot to keep caring so much. It’s just me trying to be supportive and struggling when all the other person does is continue to sabotage himself, close himself off from others who are genuinely interested in his success.
You’re not interested in opinions or insight, or adapting or trying new things. Or taking serious advice from the forum members who have taken time out of their lives to respond genuinely and thoughtfully to your posts.
You want the hiring world to conform to your business model and to your preferences. That ain’t gonna happen. Never. Years of promotion on these forums has not changed hearts and minds, even those most sympathetic to you. If anything, you’ve alienated many potential clients, and some of them have said that to me privately.
You will never give up on the deposits policy, and that’s ok. You do you. You’re entitled to do business how you see fit. What we forum members find most exhausting is that you continue complain about the consequences of your own policies, where you choose to live, and how you choose to do business. If you don’t like how it’s working out for you, you’re welcome to change any of those things. But we know you won’t do that. Never. You want the world to change instead, and when it doesn’t, you complain…and then keep demanding it to change…and when you’re met with reasonable skepticism about your expectations, you try to convince the world that they’re all wrong. It’s a miserable cycle.
You’re not going to convince others that they should charge/pay deposits as a new norm for hiring across the board. The industry is never going to change to fit how you want and think it should be. Period.
Continue with the policies that work for you. And when they don’t work for you, feel free to complain again (and again, and again) about the same things, but don’t be shocked when it falls on deaf ears. Forum members are utterly exhausted for sympathy for you. And that’s coming from someone who genuinely cares about you and wants to see you succeed!
I’ll be taking a step back from engaging with some of the more repetitive posts from Jarrod. It’s too exhausting for me to keep going. I don’t mean to say I won’t engage with Jarrod in general, just that I’m going to skip the topics where I already know your opinion and have heard similar complaints a zillion times already and know you aren’t interested in discussing ways to get better. There’s no point. It’s a total waste of time.