State of the industry (2026): So many Ads, not enough hits

[Mark_fl]

5 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

To say you would ignore it, comes off dismissive and high maintenance. Like you MUST have them personally respond, otherwise you’ll move on. Smart.

If expecting a professional to respond to a question posed in the forum in which they advertised makes me high maintenance,  then its a badge I can wear proudly.

There are very few providers I want to see,  and if this is part of my screening method to find those that are professional and don't expect the customer to jump through hoops, so be it.

And I've already said that those two word queries don't deserve a response and that those clients who try and get off on communication with providers are scum, so just because I hit a nerve doesn't mean. I'm always pro-client. It just means that there is truth in something I said and that bothers you.

[JB_Studio38]

33 minutes ago, Mark_fl said:

If expecting a professional to respond to a question posed in the forum in which they advertised makes me high maintenance,  then its a badge I can wear proudly.

There are very few providers I want to see,  and if this is part of my screening method to find those that are professional and don't expect the customer to jump through hoops, so be it.

And I've already said that those two word queries don't deserve a response and that those clients who try and get off on communication with providers are scum, so just because I hit a nerve doesn't mean. I'm always pro-client. It just means that there is truth in something I said and that bothers you.

I didn’t say asking a question is a problem. Again, the issue is moreso the cumulative effect of answering DOZENS of messages of the same questions that could easily be answered in a simply auto reply…

Which if you then follow such directions: you could likely get to a point where other questions can be answered.

But if you just immediately write someone off because they aren’t willing to stop, pull over on the highway 🛣️ while they may be driving for 8-9 hours to the next city, or STOP 🛑 in the middle of a client and answer your RentMen IM message (that many probably won’t respond to after the “moment” passes anyway): then yes that makes you dismissive and high maintenance.

Everyone has a way of working that works for them. Having an attitude that a provider is “jaded” just because they want to make responding to inquiries easier is a bit assumptive. 

[Mark_fl]

17 minutes ago, JB_Studio38 said:

 

But if you just immediately write someone off because they aren’t willing to stop, pull over on the highway 🛣️ while they may be driving for 8-9 hours to the next city, or STOP 🛑 in the middle of a client and answer your RentMen IM message (that many probably won’t respond to after the “moment” passes anyway): then yes that makes you dismissive and high maintenance.

Ridiculous to assume that anyone should pull over or interrupt a session. I've said that I book in advance and give a day to respond. That's more than fair. 

And that you get dozens of messages shouldn't be the client's problem. 

[JB_Studio38]

17 minutes ago, Mark_fl said:

Ridiculous to assume that anyone should pull over or interrupt a session. I've said that I book in advance and give a day to respond. That's more than fair. 

And that you get dozens of messages shouldn't be the client's problem. 

That’s what you do, but it’s evident that many contacting on the app are not booking in advance nor giving a day to respond.

You’re taking it personally and trying to defend yourself when I’m not even coming at you nor the clients. I’m just talking about the preferred mode of communication. And if you are contacting someone who has a preferred method of communication that does not include back and forth chat on messenger, what’s fair is that people abide by that.

[JMatt]

9 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

Hold your horses, you’re overstating what I’m saying. I didn’t simply say pay to communicate. 

What you are communicating is that you think it is a waste of your time to communicate with people who are "window shopping" and don't book with you after you've taken a few minutes to respond.  So you want to recover a fee for your time.  And you want a committed booking from everyone with whom you've shared your private pics or taken the time to answer questions.  Then put enough information in your ad to avoid questions.  Its too complicated to have to create a new account on an app to login to book an appointment.  And if there's a fee, forget it.  

[jeezifonly]

I'm so glad that I live in a market where hundreds of professionals work in their home city, so that the annoyance of trying to catch some fragile moonbeam as it passes through is never part of the process for me. 

[Rudynate]

On 7/10/2026 at 1:52 AM, JB_Studio38 said:

If the support is there across the board, surely. But I feel there’s more advertising than there’s guys supporting.

And of course, the variable rates and who’s willing to do more than $150/$200 is also a factor. Like I said in previous post: if there’s so much to pick from that individual escorts aren’t seeing more than 1 client a day: $200 ain’t going to cut it to cover hotel and/or travel to a city. So the price may be $400-$500-$600 per booking just to see a return.

More the merrier is a myth. Less is more in some aspects. And in a country (USA) that has gone backwards, doesn’t allow escort ads freely on all “sex positive” platforms (which is a damn disguise), and continues to suppress freedom of sex worker speech; having more providers is the worse case scenario. Because who’s buying and buying at a reasonable price at this point?

Inflation and higher prices is a mofo for everyone.   Providers raise, partly because every thing costs them more, just line anyone else.  But , just at the wrong time, a lot of providers are also raising rates just because. 

Clients have less disposable income and so aren't spending.  Inflation sucks for everyone. Additional inflation could work in providers' favor.  In the late 70s - early 80s, inflation was bad enough that people were resorting to spending their money quickly, before it lost value.  That could be a good thing for providers.

[jonasfoleson]

Escorts can earn hundreds in a day. Inflation? How many doing normal jobs earn hundreds per day? Few. Got little sympathy if prices generally are too high for them. 

[JB_Studio38]

On 7/17/2026 at 6:49 AM, JMatt said:

What you are communicating is that you think it is a waste of your time to communicate with people who are "window shopping" and don't book with you after you've taken a few minutes to respond.  So you want to recover a fee for your time.  And you want a committed booking from everyone with whom you've shared your private pics or taken the time to answer questions.  Then put enough information in your ad to avoid questions.  Its too complicated to have to create a new account on an app to login to book an appointment.  And if there's a fee, forget it.  

 

So no, that’s not what I’m communicating. I’m simply saying, I can’t make big plans specifically traveling to other cities: based solely on instant message emails. Even if I’m just sitting at home doing nothing or “available now”, spending time back and forth on instant messages isn’t an efficient way of booking a visit.

Also it’s like which came first, the cock 🐓 or the egg 🥚 ? In this case it’s: who came first, the fake/flaky client or the jaded escort? Idk about you but, it’s not hard to find how flaky general gay sex seeking can be: hookup apps are filled with looky loos who aren’t serious about meeting. Or maybe they are serious but, the competitor/anon nature of online cruising opens the door to just overall time-wasting and goose chase, made easy. 

I may have told this story before, years ago: but it’s an example that even now is still a reason why I need more than just an email to take bookings seriously: Years ago back when Men4Rent/Rentboy was around, I took a trip to a city (Indianapolis). I had an inbox full of emails, from people claiming to want to meet when I got to town. Can’t remember how many actual texts I received, but I don’t think it would have been enough nowadays to go.

I drove out, thinking I would be fully booked. I was already somewhat taking a leap, going with only enough for gas and hotel for a couple days. Well, I got there. Met 1 client for $150 at the time (this was 2010 so that’s probably to equal to $200 now but still, wasn’t enough). NON of the other “inquiries” ended up following thru. I ended up stranded for 2 days, before I could get help out. 
 

That above situation has reared its head from time to time in other cities, but that was the first and worst time I experienced how; email inquiries are not a good measure of anticipating bookings.

I recently turned down a 4 day friend’s trip to Pensacola and New Orleans a couple weeks ago. I wanted to join, but business has been slow so, I have to plan things sensibly. I was getting RentMen messages, but only a couple texts that wouldn’t have coordinated with the time frame I had to work with. I wasn’t about to drive 7 hours from where I was, without some REAL confirmed inquiries. 
 

Nowadays if I don’t have text/phone CONFIRMED bookings with deposit, I won’t go. Inquiries asking if I’m in town/when I’m coming to town/love to see me when I’m in town DON’T COUNT. And no I’m not “taking risks” because as I explained above, risks can cause one to lose money or end up stranded if going on a limited budget expecting payment upon arrival, only to be stood up by a bunch of phonies. 

 

On 7/17/2026 at 1:02 PM, jeezifonly said:

I'm so glad that I live in a market where hundreds of professionals work in their home city, so that the annoyance of trying to catch some fragile moonbeam as it passes through is never part of the process for me. 

Well, some cities can support that. However there’s some cities where there’s dozens of guys advertising that really can’t support it. 
 

I was in Nashville recently, and it’s super packed with providers but yet: nobody is buying out there. So many people trying to do the same thing. The nightclubs have their own system in place. When I lived there years ago, it was only about 10 escorts or less. Now there’s like 100. 

 

On 7/17/2026 at 2:03 PM, Rudynate said:

Inflation and higher prices is a mofo for everyone.   Providers raise, partly because every thing costs them more, just line anyone else.  But , just at the wrong time, a lot of providers are also raising rates just because. 

Clients have less disposable income and so aren't spending.  Inflation sucks for everyone. Additional inflation could work in providers' favor.  In the late 70s - early 80s, inflation was bad enough that people were resorting to spending their money quickly, before it lost value.  That could be a good thing for providers.

A MoFo it sure is. I’ve raised my rates slowly by $50-$100 since Covid but inflation isn’t my main reason. For me it’s the fewer clientele booking, and longer distances I’m having to commute to reach clients. Just today I commuted 5.5 hours (to be fair, it’s a detoured route home so not solely for bookings, but it’s still traveling from one area and going to the next), but my first session was over $300.

Years ago I could do $200, but that came with more clients and different hotel prices. So it’s appreciated to have $300-$400 these days. 
 

I’m trying not to implement a $500 across the board “minimum price”, as I know not everyone can come up with that BUT: for some areas I do just because that’s what it usually takes to be comfortable as a mainly touring provider that I am.
 

On 7/18/2026 at 5:57 AM, jonasfoleson said:

Escorts can earn hundreds in a day. Inflation? How many doing normal jobs earn hundreds per day? Few. Got little sympathy if prices generally are too high for them. 

Can. Can. Can. Speculatively talking

That doesn’t mean IS MAKING. Keep in mind, we’re not women. For one. So once that 💦 cums, not all of us desire to keep going and seeing more guys. I tend to only see 1 client max in a day. Maybe 2 if I want to keep busy, 3 if I’m feeling extra 🐐 
 

And keep in mind that’s not even everyday. I may have days in between bookings even in the biggest cities. Free sex is easy to come across. But when it’s a price involved, things get very different. And sometimes clients aren’t always available to be found on the main escort/masseur sites. It can take a bit of searching. I actually landed a female potential client at a hotel bar one night, but it didn’t turn into sex, just a bit of company. I’m not straight, just straight to bed 😆 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 08:50 AM by JB_Studio38

[jeezifonly]

A high-ranking non-profit arts administrator once shared with me a bit of box-office wisdom she'd been given by a major Broadway producer:

"If they really want to not see the show you're presenting, you can't stop them."

 

[jonasfoleson]

On 7/20/2026 at 8:38 AM, JB_Studio38 said:

 

So no, that’s not what I’m communicating. I’m simply saying, I can’t make big plans specifically traveling to other cities: based solely on instant message emails. Even if I’m just sitting at home doing nothing or “available now”, spending time back and forth on instant messages isn’t an efficient way of booking a visit.

Also it’s like which came first, the cock 🐓 or the egg 🥚 ? In this case it’s: who came first, the fake/flaky client or the jaded escort? Idk about you but, it’s not hard to find how flaky general gay sex seeking can be: hookup apps are filled with looky loos who aren’t serious about meeting. Or maybe they are serious but, the competitor/anon nature of online cruising opens the door to just overall time-wasting and goose chase, made easy. 

I may have told this story before, years ago: but it’s an example that even now is still a reason why I need more than just an email to take bookings seriously: Years ago back when Men4Rent/Rentboy was around, I took a trip to a city (Indianapolis). I had an inbox full of emails, from people claiming to want to meet when I got to town. Can’t remember how many actual texts I received, but I don’t think it would have been enough nowadays to go.

I drove out, thinking I would be fully booked. I was already somewhat taking a leap, going with only enough for gas and hotel for a couple days. Well, I got there. Met 1 client for $150 at the time (this was 2010 so that’s probably to equal to $200 now but still, wasn’t enough). NON of the other “inquiries” ended up following thru. I ended up stranded for 2 days, before I could get help out. 
 

That above situation has reared its head from time to time in other cities, but that was the first and worst time I experienced how; email inquiries are not a good measure of anticipating bookings.

I recently turned down a 4 day friend’s trip to Pensacola and New Orleans a couple weeks ago. I wanted to join, but business has been slow so, I have to plan things sensibly. I was getting RentMen messages, but only a couple texts that wouldn’t have coordinated with the time frame I had to work with. I wasn’t about to drive 7 hours from where I was, without some REAL confirmed inquiries. 
 

Nowadays if I don’t have text/phone CONFIRMED bookings with deposit, I won’t go. Inquiries asking if I’m in town/when I’m coming to town/love to see me when I’m in town DON’T COUNT. And no I’m not “taking risks” because as I explained above, risks can cause one to lose money or end up stranded if going on a limited budget expecting payment upon arrival, only to be stood up by a bunch of phonies. 

 

Well, some cities can support that. However there’s some cities where there’s dozens of guys advertising that really can’t support it. 
 

I was in Nashville recently, and it’s super packed with providers but yet: nobody is buying out there. So many people trying to do the same thing. The nightclubs have their own system in place. When I lived there years ago, it was only about 10 escorts or less. Now there’s like 100. 

 

A MoFo it sure is. I’ve raised my rates slowly by $50-$100 since Covid but inflation isn’t my main reason. For me it’s the fewer clientele booking, and longer distances I’m having to commute to reach clients. Just today I commuted 5.5 hours (to be fair, it’s a detoured route home so not solely for bookings, but it’s still traveling from one area and going to the next), but my first session was over $300.

Years ago I could do $200, but that came with more clients and different hotel prices. So it’s appreciated to have $300-$400 these days. 
 

I’m trying not to implement a $500 across the board “minimum price”, as I know not everyone can come up with that BUT: for some areas I do just because that’s what it usually takes to be comfortable as a mainly touring provider that I am.
 

Can. Can. Can. Speculatively talking

That doesn’t mean IS MAKING. Keep in mind, we’re not women. For one. So once that 💦 cums, not all of us desire to keep going and seeing more guys. I tend to only see 1 client max in a day. Maybe 2 if I want to keep busy, 3 if I’m feeling extra 🐐 
 

And keep in mind that’s not even everyday. I may have days in between bookings even in the biggest cities. Free sex is easy to come across. But when it’s a price involved, things get very different. And sometimes clients aren’t always available to be found on the main escort/masseur sites. It can take a bit of searching. I actually landed a female potential client at a hotel bar one night, but it didn’t turn into sex, just a bit of company. I’m not straight, just straight to bed 😆 

 

 

Basic economics shows that inflation hits the lowest income earners the hardest. This is less likely to be escorts. Comparing esocrts to factory workers, nursery assistants, or mail delivery people is a stretch. These are often low-paid work, and escorting by and large isn't. there is also the avenue of onlyfans, manyvids, whch can act as a loop to get more clients or as supplementary income. 

[+ FrankR]

33 minutes ago, jonasfoleson said:

Basic economics shows that inflation hits the lowest income earners the hardest. This is less likely to be escorts. Comparing esocrts to factory workers, nursery assistants, or mail delivery people is a stretch. These are often low-paid work, and escorting by and large isn't. there is also the avenue of onlyfans, manyvids, whch can act as a loop to get more clients or as supplementary income. 

Dont believe what you see on social media.  Most escorts barely get by - there is a reason why 90% of them have roommates.  They may get 20 inquiries but will be lucky to get 1 booking a day. They frequently go through dry spells.  They dont make the money you seem to think they do.  Onlyfans only pay off if you are in the top 1% which is hard to do in a saturated market. 

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

2 hours ago, FrankR said:

Dont believe what you see on social media.  Most escorts barely get by - there is a reason why 90% of them have roommates.  They may get 20 inquiries but will be lucky to get 1 booking a day. They frequently go through dry spells.  They dont make the money you seem to think they do.  Onlyfans only pay off if you are in the top 1% which is hard to do in a saturated market. 

"Don't believe what you read on social media."
But we should believe you instead?

"90% of them have roommates."
Really? Bozo knows a bunch of OnlyFans content creators. Some are escorts, some are strippers, some are both, and some are neither. Only one of them has a roommate. And that is because he chooses to live in Hudson Yards, paying over $6,000 per month for rent. Would you care to share analytical data to support your claim that 90% have roommates?

"Onlyfans only pay off if you are in the top 1%."
It depends what you mean by "pay off".  It's true that very, very few enjoy the lifestyle of OnlyFans megastars like Reno Gold, who drives fancy cars, takes expensive vacations, and has a real estate empire generating income that would make most of his competition blush with jealousy. However, there are plenty of Only Fans content creators who are not in the top 1%, in fact no where near that, whose OnlyFans and JustForFans income allows them to live very comfortably.  If you have the "right look", do collabs with other hot guys, price yourself competitively, and are creative in your content, you can do quite well, without being near the top 1%.

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[Colton]

On 7/13/2026 at 5:46 AM, JB_Studio38 said:

People need to understand how RentMen/Advertising works. Just because my ad shows in a city doesn’t always mean I’m presently there. But it also doesn’t MATTER as long as I can get there, and I know what all appointments to expect when I arrive. It’s just an ad. It’s not a live location on my iPhone. I can move my ad between California and Minnesota all day long. It’s for exposure. It’s to gather interest, in order to prepare and be able to plan ahead. 

No, clients don't need to understand how RM advertising works.  Thats not their expertise and its unreasonable to expect that.  

All professionals, whether they are plumbers, lawyers, bankers or anything else, have to do business development.  It sucks that BD is unpaid, because sometimes it can be more time consuming than actual engagements, and not every BD effort will turn into a paid engagement, but that is true across the board.

I don't know nor care how plumbers advertise, so I should not need to know nor care how you advertise.  

[maninsoma]

I assume escorting is like lots of other businesses in many respects, but there is one major difference.  No one cares if their plumber is 30 years old or 60 years old, but plenty of men hiring escorts would choose a 30 year old but never hire a 60 year old, regardless of how they look.  I'm only raising this point because I assume that working as an escort is especially difficult as a long-term career.  I'm assuming (but don't have any data to back this assumption up) that the men who remain successful escorts for decades have long-term/repeat clients as well as a generally positive reputation that draws at least some newcomers to them.  I'd also like to point out that like many other businesses, sometimes you can be highly in demand and then your business dwindles.  I've seen so many restaurants decline in popularity over the years, ultimately leading to their closure.  Not every successful business remains open long-term.  I know some guys still advertise on Rentmen after being in the business for 25+ years, but I have no idea what their income is now versus 25 years ago.

[ACluelessGent]

On 7/20/2026 at 10:38 AM, JB_Studio38 said:

 

So no, that’s not what I’m communicating. I’m simply saying, I can’t make big plans specifically traveling to other cities: based solely on instant message emails. Even if I’m just sitting at home doing nothing or “available now”, spending time back and forth on instant messages isn’t an efficient way of booking a visit.

Also it’s like which came first, the cock 🐓 or the egg 🥚 ? In this case it’s: who came first, the fake/flaky client or the jaded escort? Idk about you but, it’s not hard to find how flaky general gay sex seeking can be: hookup apps are filled with looky loos who aren’t serious about meeting. Or maybe they are serious but, the competitor/anon nature of online cruising opens the door to just overall time-wasting and goose chase, made easy. 

I may have told this story before, years ago: but it’s an example that even now is still a reason why I need more than just an email to take bookings seriously: Years ago back when Men4Rent/Rentboy was around, I took a trip to a city (Indianapolis). I had an inbox full of emails, from people claiming to want to meet when I got to town. Can’t remember how many actual texts I received, but I don’t think it would have been enough nowadays to go.

I drove out, thinking I would be fully booked. I was already somewhat taking a leap, going with only enough for gas and hotel for a couple days. Well, I got there. Met 1 client for $150 at the time (this was 2010 so that’s probably to equal to $200 now but still, wasn’t enough). NON of the other “inquiries” ended up following thru. I ended up stranded for 2 days, before I could get help out. 
 

That above situation has reared its head from time to time in other cities, but that was the first and worst time I experienced how; email inquiries are not a good measure of anticipating bookings.

I recently turned down a 4 day friend’s trip to Pensacola and New Orleans a couple weeks ago. I wanted to join, but business has been slow so, I have to plan things sensibly. I was getting RentMen messages, but only a couple texts that wouldn’t have coordinated with the time frame I had to work with. I wasn’t about to drive 7 hours from where I was, without some REAL confirmed inquiries. 
 

Nowadays if I don’t have text/phone CONFIRMED bookings with deposit, I won’t go. Inquiries asking if I’m in town/when I’m coming to town/love to see me when I’m in town DON’T COUNT. And no I’m not “taking risks” because as I explained above, risks can cause one to lose money or end up stranded if going on a limited budget expecting payment upon arrival, only to be stood up by a bunch of phonies. 

 

Well, some cities can support that. However there’s some cities where there’s dozens of guys advertising that really can’t support it. 
 

I was in Nashville recently, and it’s super packed with providers but yet: nobody is buying out there. So many people trying to do the same thing. The nightclubs have their own system in place. When I lived there years ago, it was only about 10 escorts or less. Now there’s like 100. 

 

A MoFo it sure is. I’ve raised my rates slowly by $50-$100 since Covid but inflation isn’t my main reason. For me it’s the fewer clientele booking, and longer distances I’m having to commute to reach clients. Just today I commuted 5.5 hours (to be fair, it’s a detoured route home so not solely for bookings, but it’s still traveling from one area and going to the next), but my first session was over $300.

Years ago I could do $200, but that came with more clients and different hotel prices. So it’s appreciated to have $300-$400 these days. 
 

I’m trying not to implement a $500 across the board “minimum price”, as I know not everyone can come up with that BUT: for some areas I do just because that’s what it usually takes to be comfortable as a mainly touring provider that I am.
 

Can. Can. Can. Speculatively talking

That doesn’t mean IS MAKING. Keep in mind, we’re not women. For one. So once that 💦 cums, not all of us desire to keep going and seeing more guys. I tend to only see 1 client max in a day. Maybe 2 if I want to keep busy, 3 if I’m feeling extra 🐐 
 

And keep in mind that’s not even everyday. I may have days in between bookings even in the biggest cities. Free sex is easy to come across. But when it’s a price involved, things get very different. And sometimes clients aren’t always available to be found on the main escort/masseur sites. It can take a bit of searching. I actually landed a female potential client at a hotel bar one night, but it didn’t turn into sex, just a bit of company. I’m not straight, just straight to bed 😆 

 

 

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