Muscle_Admirer Posted Wednesday at 11:43 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:43 PM (edited) On 5/21/2026 at 5:39 PM, Jamie21 said: Oh no! This topic again. He can charge whatever he thinks he’s worth. It’s entirely up to him and his definition of his value. You don’t have to pay it. You might want to hire him but if you don’t want to pay his rate too bad! You can’t afford him. Buy a cheaper guy and see how good he is. If you think it’s an easy overpaid job why not set up yourself? See how easy it is. What price would you put on yourself for an hour of doing escort work (don’t forget to add in all the hidden costs - time spent trying to look good, being available 24/7, handling time wasters, advertising, paying for the benefits that employees get as part of their job, taking risks with your sexual health….). Now his rate doesn’t seem so unreasonable does it… I think about this often when hiring. The provider has to deal with all sorts of people. I just deal with him (and only if I like his look). That thought process alone quiets my urge to bargain hunt and simply pay the man his rate or politely move on. Edited Wednesday at 11:44 PM by Muscle_Admirer + Jamie21 and Luv2play 1 1
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted Wednesday at 11:54 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:54 PM 1 hour ago, KensingtonHomo said: The point remains that we're suffering the worst inflation in decades. Actually, the point remains that statistics prove otherwise. You can repeat a lie again and again. It doesn't make it true. Circling back, although providers admittedly have additional expenses, they also are in all-cash profession. That means most don't report all of their income, and many don't report any of it. The rest of us would be in prison if we attempted to do the same. As of today, there are 71pages of escorts advertising on Rentmen in NYC. At 24 escorts per page, do the math. That's a lot of hookers in Gotham. That means there is a lot of $$ to be made in the business if you have the right "look" and have good marketing skills. Bozo doesn't get how these guys can justify asking for the amounts that some of them do. But hey, that's capitalism. If they can get it, the more power to them! Laissez les bons temps rouler.... BTC 🤡 MikeBiDude and + JamesB 2
Muscle_Admirer Posted Thursday at 12:36 AM Posted Thursday at 12:36 AM On 5/21/2026 at 6:31 PM, Wings246 said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/insight/san-francisco-rent-soars-to-5-200-leading-2026-us-list/gm-GM7F157721?gemSnapshotKey=GM7F157721-snapshot-1&ocid=st …It seems the only number that is not rising is our wages… All jokes aside, I do agree that $400 is indeed a very heavy psychological barrier (at least to me, an average wage earner). As far as the stagnation of wages, I estimate that this is mainly because during times of economic uncertainty, most folks hunker down at work, don’t rock the boat by demanding a raise or promotion and don’t quit to avail themselves to the opportunity to earn more money for fear of being unemployed. Presumably most don’t even have an interview-ready resume on hand and prefer to draft one only when their current job is wrested from them. This works to the employers benefit because they can attempt to recoup costs through increasing the price of their goods or services while leaving the cost of labor relatively fixed. One should never expect employers to voluntarily increase wages when there is no pressure from anyone to do so. When times are good (or perceived to be good) employees feel more confident to move around, ask for higher wages and take risks working for themselves for the chance at a better payday. With regard to providers, I think it’s a different animal. They are independent contractors that by and large provide a highly desirable product whose utility may transcend economic conditions broadly. Nothing beats 1:1 contact with another person, especially if intimacy is desired and likely. They can largely increase their rates to whatever the market can bear because they largely understand their worth and are confident in asserting it. + Vegas_Millennial 1
+ KensingtonHomo Posted Thursday at 02:41 AM Posted Thursday at 02:41 AM 2 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: Actually, the point remains that statistics prove otherwise. You can repeat a lie again and again. It doesn't make it true. Total inflation since COVID is nearly 25 percent. And that was before gas increased 40%. That's the truth. The middle class is being liquidated. + DrownedBoy and ShortCutie7 2
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted Thursday at 05:22 PM Posted Thursday at 05:22 PM (edited) 17 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: 19 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said: The point remains that we're suffering the worst inflation in decades. Actually, the point remains that statistics prove otherwise. 14 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said: Total inflation since COVID is nearly 25 percent. And that was before gas increased 40%. That's the truth. The middle class is being liquidated. We all agree that inflation and cost growth were out of control post-2020, but I think @BOZO T CLOWN views "recent" as 2025-2026, and inflation is much lower and more stable now than the worst inflation of 2021-2023. If one takes "recent" to mean all of post-COVID, then yes prices rose a lot but most of the price increases occurred prior to 2024. I've observed the same with escort rates. A lot more $400 rates appeared around 2023, but they haven't climbed much since. Most that I hire are still around $250-$350. Edited Thursday at 05:26 PM by Vegas_Millennial carnalvore and + BOZO T CLOWN 1 1
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted Thursday at 06:39 PM Posted Thursday at 06:39 PM 1 hour ago, Vegas_Millennial said: We all agree that inflation and cost growth were out of control post-2020, but I think @BOZO T CLOWN views "recent" as 2025-2026, and inflation is much lower and more stable now than the worst inflation of 2021-2023. If one takes "recent" to mean all of post-COVID, then yes prices rose a lot but most of the price increases occurred prior to 2024. I've observed the same with escort rates. A lot more $400 rates appeared around 2023, but they haven't climbed much since. Most that I hire are still around $250-$350. Exactly! People can twist numbers and stats like a pretzel to suit a particular point. But it is ridiculous to go back 5 years to justify current escort rates. In fact many, if not most, escorts currently advertising weren't in the business in 2021. In the last 2 years, inflation averaged 2.9%. This is a much more accurate yardstick to use. And it is a low rate. Certainly nowhere near to what an escort could claim is a legitimate reason to increase his price. Thanks @Vegas_Millennial. You are far more articulate than Bozo. https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/annual-averages-for-rate-of-inflation/ BTC 🤡
+ KensingtonHomo Posted Thursday at 07:23 PM Posted Thursday at 07:23 PM 11 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: Exactly! People can twist numbers and stats like a pretzel to suit a particular point. But it is ridiculous to go back 5 years to justify current escort rates. In fact many, if not most, escorts currently advertising weren't in the business in 2021. If you cannot understand that escorts raised their prices in the wake of an overall cost-of-living increase of 20-25 percent, over the past 5 years, going from $300-$350 to $400 (an increase of 16-30 percent), I can't help you.
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted Thursday at 07:49 PM Posted Thursday at 07:49 PM (edited) 31 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said: If you cannot understand that escorts raised their prices in the wake of an overall cost-of-living increase of 20-25 percent, over the past 5 years, going from $300-$350 to $400 (an increase of 16-30 percent), I can't help you. Nobody asked for your help. An escort raising his price in 2026 because of high (8%) inflation five years ago makes ZERO sense. ZERO. It belies common sense. Why not go back 10 years. Or better yet, 20 years. The shelf life of an escort is not that long. Most current escorts likely weren't around in 2021. So for an escort today increasing his rates based on inflation five years ago is laughable. According to BLS, inflation has averaged less than 3% the last couple of years. That's negligible. Not a justification to increase prices. BTC 🤡 Edited Thursday at 07:56 PM by BOZO T CLOWN
ShortCutie7 Posted Thursday at 07:50 PM Posted Thursday at 07:50 PM 2 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said: We all agree that inflation and cost growth were out of control post-2020, but I think @BOZO T CLOWN views "recent" as 2025-2026, and inflation is much lower and more stable now than the worst inflation of 2021-2023. If one takes "recent" to mean all of post-COVID, then yes prices rose a lot but most of the price increases occurred prior to 2024. I've observed the same with escort rates. A lot more $400 rates appeared around 2023, but they haven't climbed much since. Most that I hire are still around $250-$350. @KensingtonHomoand I both live in Brooklyn (or I assume he does based on his username). The cost of food in Brooklyn has gone up astronomically in the last year or so (a basic meal for two in a Chinese restaurant went up 54% in less than 2 years). That said, $400 rates have been the mode since I started reaching out to providers in 2023. + Vegas_Millennial and + KensingtonHomo 2
+ KensingtonHomo Posted Thursday at 08:05 PM Posted Thursday at 08:05 PM 3 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: Nobody asked for your help. An escort raising his price in 2026 because of high (8%) inflation five years ago makes ZERO sense. ZERO. It belies common sense. Why not go back 10 years. Or better yet, 20 years. According to BLS, inflation has averaged less than 3% the last couple of years. That's negligible. Not a justification to increase prices. BTC 🤡 You sound like someone who works for Fox Business, selectively pulling statistics that do not reflect the lived experience of people. When prices first go up, many people will try to suck it up and cut their expenses. If it continues, they may seek additional work or ask for a raise, dip into savings. Some professions - largely white collar and manufacturing eventually got raises that have evened it out, but the lower part of the income strata has not. This article explains what you would know if you just spoke to like five people in the real world. https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/18/cumulative-inflation-since-2020.html carnalvore and mike carey 1 1
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted Thursday at 08:14 PM Posted Thursday at 08:14 PM 17 minutes ago, ShortCutie7 said: @KensingtonHomoand I both live in Brooklyn (or I assume he does based on his username). The cost of food in Brooklyn has gone up astronomically in the last year or so (a basic meal for two in a Chinese restaurant went up 54% in less than 2 years). That said, $400 rates have been the mode since I started reaching out to providers in 2023. According to the BLS, the increase in food prices in the NYC region has been relatively stable in the last 3 years, averaging between 2.8 to 5% per year. If you are paying more, you should shop at a different supermarket. https://www.bls.gov/regions/northeast/news-release/2026/consumerpriceindex_newyork_20260512.htm BTC 🤡 carnalvore and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted Thursday at 09:05 PM Posted Thursday at 09:05 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said: @KensingtonHomoand I both live in Brooklyn (or I assume he does based on his username). The cost of food in Brooklyn has gone up astronomically in the last year or so (a basic meal for two in a Chinese restaurant went up 54% in less than 2 years). That said, $400 rates have been the mode since I started reaching out to providers in 2023. Ah, that makes sense. NYC would expect to see skyrotting inflation this year for historically low-cost items and services, such as neighborhood restaurants, that are more affected by recent local increases in minimum wages. Whereas higher-cost items and services, including more luxury services provided by escorts, are less influenced by the increased minimum wage and therefore are not experiencing the same increase in prices so far. Edited Thursday at 09:56 PM by Vegas_Millennial Grammar ShortCutie7 and + BOZO T CLOWN 2
ShortCutie7 Posted Thursday at 09:20 PM Posted Thursday at 09:20 PM 1 hour ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: According to the BLS, the increase in food prices in the NYC region has been relatively stable in the last 3 years, averaging between 2.8 to 5% per year. If you are paying more, you should shop at a different supermarket. https://www.bls.gov/regions/northeast/news-release/2026/consumerpriceindex_newyork_20260512.htm BTC 🤡 I totally get that- my example of the Chinese restaurant was because it is extreme and a place I used to go quite often. As @Vegas_Millennial said above, it’s more about specific items and goods purchased than the vendor. + Vegas_Millennial 1
+ Jamie21 Posted Thursday at 09:51 PM Posted Thursday at 09:51 PM Escort rates will not necessarily follow inflation. They’re a function of supply and demand for escort work. It’s quite possible for general inflation to be around 3% per annum but escort inflation to be higher. If the supply of escorts reduces (perhaps because of social reasons - society discouraging the work, or illegal immigrants being deported for example…) and the demand increases (perhaps because of closure of spaces for casual hookups) then rates will rise. Escorts know the market, if they sense demand increasing they’ll increase rates. One of the reasons for suppressing the supply of escorts in the US is the fact that illegality of selling sex deters people from entering the business. I’d guess it deters more on the supply side than it deters clients from buying on the demand side. Therefore it’s expensive to hire. Regardless of all this, it’s pointless complaining about escort rates. If you can’t afford it that’s tough. You might desperately want it but you’re not going to get it unless you pay his rate. Pay him or move on. No amount of whining will change it. I don’t blame guys for setting their rate and sticking to it. I do the same, I never discount. Guys ask for a reduction in price, or a shorter session for the lower price but I never agree. First it sets the session off on a bad start if I’ve reduced my rate, second those clients don’t appreciate the work and third why should I work for less than I think I’m worth? Other clients pay the rate so I get enough business (demand & supply again). This endless debate on sex worker rates is futile. + Vegas_Millennial, + BOZO T CLOWN, mike carey and 1 other 1 3
TR1989 Posted Thursday at 10:11 PM Posted Thursday at 10:11 PM 5 minutes ago, Jamie21 said: Escort rates will not necessarily follow inflation. They’re a function of supply and demand for escort work. It’s quite possible for general inflation to be around 3% per annum but escort inflation to be higher. If the supply of escorts reduces (perhaps because of social reasons - society discouraging the work, or illegal immigrants being deported for example…) and the demand increases (perhaps because of closure of spaces for casual hookups) then rates will rise. Escorts know the market, if they sense demand increasing they’ll increase rates. One of the reasons for suppressing the supply of escorts in the US is the fact that illegality of selling sex deters people from entering the business. I’d guess it deters more on the supply side than it deters clients from buying on the demand side. Therefore it’s expensive to hire. Regardless of all this, it’s pointless complaining about escort rates. If you can’t afford it that’s tough. You might desperately want it but you’re not going to get it unless you pay his rate. Pay him or move on. No amount of whining will change it. I don’t blame guys for setting their rate and sticking to it. I do the same, I never discount. Guys ask for a reduction in price, or a shorter session for the lower price but I never agree. First it sets the session off on a bad start if I’ve reduced my rate, second those clients don’t appreciate the work and third why should I work for less than I think I’m worth? Other clients pay the rate so I get enough business (demand & supply again). This endless debate on sex worker rates is futile. Totally agree. I’m new to seeing masseurs. But am lucky enough to find two, right off the bat, that I really like and who are quite generous. (I had some help from this forum finding these masseurs.) My willingness to pay (economic concept) for their services is definitely higher than what these two masseurs charge - so I set my own rate for each of them (same rate for each, just in case they know one another 😁), which is above their own rates. I want them to know I appreciate how much work it takes to be EXCELLENT in this business. As another member wrote in a previous post, there are people who are paying those rates if that is what they continue to ask for. I’m one of those people 😁🤷♀️. + Jamie21 1
+ KensingtonHomo Posted Friday at 12:33 AM Posted Friday at 12:33 AM (edited) 3 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said: NYC would expect to see skyrotting inflation this year for historically low-cost items and services, such as neighborhood restaurants, that are more affected by recent local increases in minimum wages. Minimum wage as a cost has nothing to do with inflation in NYC or anywhere else. It increases by $1/hour at the beginning of this year. And minimum wage for servers is not the same as standard minimum wage. The costs are in rent, food and fuel. All things impacted by greed and government policy. Edited Friday at 12:34 AM by KensingtonHomo + BOZO T CLOWN 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted Friday at 12:47 AM Posted Friday at 12:47 AM 4 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said: Minimum wage .... increases by $1/hour at the beginning of this year. And minimum wage for servers is not the same as standard minimum wage. The costs are in rent, food and fuel. All things impacted by greed and government policy. Agree 💯! Thank Goodness escort rates aren't set by law! And as Jamie pointed out, it's the US's legal restriction on sex work (Nevada excepted) that keeps escort rates higher than in the UK or Europe. There have been pushes in Nevada to remove the remaining restrictions from sex work in Nevada (we've had several prominent working girls serve in the state legislature), but the bills can't progress out of committee. 😢
harlow Posted Friday at 12:57 AM Posted Friday at 12:57 AM I remember the days of RentBoy and Men4MenNow where the going rate was $190-200hr!!! Granted that was 15-20 years ago 😁 I say providers can charge whatever they like for their services...after all it's their bodies. However, it's still up to us if we wanna pay it. Sometimes a provider's rate is more than I'm willing to pay and I just respectfully move on. If its worth it for me then I pay them what they ask. + Vegas_Millennial and Rod Hagen 2
jonasfoleson Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago On 6/11/2026 at 12:54 AM, BOZO T CLOWN said: Actually, the point remains that statistics prove otherwise. You can repeat a lie again and again. It doesn't make it true. Circling back, although providers admittedly have additional expenses, they also are in all-cash profession. That means most don't report all of their income, and many don't report any of it. The rest of us would be in prison if we attempted to do the same. As of today, there are 71pages of escorts advertising on Rentmen in NYC. At 24 escorts per page, do the math. That's a lot of hookers in Gotham. That means there is a lot of $$ to be made in the business if you have the right "look" and have good marketing skills. Bozo doesn't get how these guys can justify asking for the amounts that some of them do. But hey, that's capitalism. If they can get it, the more power to them! Laissez les bons temps rouler.... BTC 🤡 NYC is a major world city. That alone gets custom, even if it's illegal in NY state and most of the US. Morover there is a World Cup on, so the biggest sporting tournament ofthe biggest sport on Earth attracts people.
jonasfoleson Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago On 6/11/2026 at 10:51 PM, Jamie21 said: Escort rates will not necessarily follow inflation. They’re a function of supply and demand for escort work. It’s quite possible for general inflation to be around 3% per annum but escort inflation to be higher. If the supply of escorts reduces (perhaps because of social reasons - society discouraging the work, or illegal immigrants being deported for example…) and the demand increases (perhaps because of closure of spaces for casual hookups) then rates will rise. Escorts know the market, if they sense demand increasing they’ll increase rates. One of the reasons for suppressing the supply of escorts in the US is the fact that illegality of selling sex deters people from entering the business. I’d guess it deters more on the supply side than it deters clients from buying on the demand side. Therefore it’s expensive to hire. Regardless of all this, it’s pointless complaining about escort rates. If you can’t afford it that’s tough. You might desperately want it but you’re not going to get it unless you pay his rate. Pay him or move on. No amount of whining will change it. I don’t blame guys for setting their rate and sticking to it. I do the same, I never discount. Guys ask for a reduction in price, or a shorter session for the lower price but I never agree. First it sets the session off on a bad start if I’ve reduced my rate, second those clients don’t appreciate the work and third why should I work for less than I think I’m worth? Other clients pay the rate so I get enough business (demand & supply again). This endless debate on sex worker rates is futile. I don't think rates ha ve changed that radically over a while. I recall in the 2010s, it was similar. I've often wondered why £150-200 is the set rate for an hour in the UK, and has been for some time. It's not an economic costing thing, is it? Or a cost-plus thing. It seems pretty arbitrary. But you're right - escorts charge what they wish, it's their (or your) prerogative.
Aedo Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) Unlike in other industries, this one doesn't have easily observable results or obtainable performance reviews -- this forum is all that we have. So guys who want to escort will just ask their more-established escort friend how much they charge and run with that. This leads to a lot of ridiculous pricing and negative experiences (and hurts those providers who are worth premium pricing). This market is not a textbook free market because this market is not as transparent as others. Edited 7 hours ago by Aedo Whoisyourdaddy 1
+ DrownedBoy Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Aedo said: This market is not a textbook free market because this market is not as transparent as others. It's a spot exchange market in the U.S., an old-fashioned one due to illegality. One that's been around before we even had formal "free markets."
jonasfoleson Posted 44 minutes ago Posted 44 minutes ago INflation? Would a gay or bi escort at most have much outgoings? Any children? possibly but less likely than a straight man. A home, food, clothing, savings, mortgage, pension, entertainment? Yes, but then if they earn c. 100k a year (not infeasible for a competent escort in a big city), they're less likely to get caught by inflation.
nomad Posted 19 minutes ago Posted 19 minutes ago It's based on demand. Even if their home base is in a big city like LA or NYC, they will tap out the pool of people willing and able to pay rop dollar. It's why so many of the guys regularly travel to other cities. Tapping into the initial rush and milking it 💦until it dries out and moving on to the next city. Even the ones with enough regulars will travel on a regular basis to maximize their earnings.
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