Condomless encounters

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, nycman said:

I would never make an assumption. 

 

The era of PrEP is here, and it has been a game changer. 

1 hour ago, nycman said:

 

Common? Yes.

More likely than not? Yes. 

 

good point but based on what many escorts tell me, even guys who claim to be "safe only" when the moment comes they BB.

1 hour ago, nycman said:

 

But the “default” should be whatever two sexually mature adults agree to. 

Of course should be consensual, whether is among client and escort or 2 guys having free sex.

 

[Rod Hagen]

On 5/17/2026 at 3:12 AM, nycman said:

But the “default” should be whatever two sexually mature adults agree to. 

Which completely contradicts the purpose of a default setting, "...eliminate the need for users to repeatedly select preferences, letting the system carry out standard actions automatically."

[+ SirBillybob]

Unless the factory setting travelled here in a Time Machine from 1981, it still comes with a “some assembly required” insert. 

Edited Monday at 02:27 PM by SirBillybob

[Luv2play]

On 5/17/2026 at 6:12 AM, nycman said:

I would never make an assumption. 

Common? Yes.

More likely than not? Yes. 

But the “default” should be whatever two sexually mature adults agree to. 

That’s not the definition of default.

[+ SirBillybob]

On 5/17/2026 at 6:12 AM, nycman said:

But the “default” should be whatever two sexually mature adults agree to. 

According you semantic beta-testing credit. 

Edited Monday at 03:51 PM by SirBillybob

[Constantine]

On 5/16/2026 at 10:14 PM, marylander1940 said:

As others have said, in this day and age, BB is default! 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/hiv-manitoba-public-health-emergency-9.7191004

Manitoba just declared HIV a public health emergency. You live in a bubble no offence.

[marylander1940]

13 minutes ago, Constantine said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/hiv-manitoba-public-health-emergency-9.7191004

Manitoba just declared HIV a public health emergency. You live in a bubble no offence.

I hope you're not shaming folks who take PrEP instead of using condoms. 

Manitoba demographics have a lot to do with healthcare issues. Check the obesity rate among other things. 

[PileDriver]

when using a condom got Gonorrhea and Syphilis..fluids were exchanged enough..BUT I dealt with it as a fucking adult! No? Deal with the consequences of your actions like an adult. Period! Once on Prep and now others meds zero infections. But with that said have had few assignations. Deal with it like an adult! No doubt my comments will result in hand ringing and condemnation. 

Edited Monday at 04:37 PM by PileDriver

[Luv2play]

1 hour ago, Constantine said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/hiv-manitoba-public-health-emergency-9.7191004

Manitoba just declared HIV a public health emergency. You live in a bubble no offence.

Manitobas HIV crisis is almost totally drug related amongst the Indigenous population. Very sad but not a gay issue out there. 

[Thomas_Belgium]

On 5/17/2026 at 4:14 AM, marylander1940 said:

As others have said, in this day and age, BB is default! 

In my opinion it isn't. For example Jalif porn is with condoms:

https://carnalplus.com/jalifstudio/

[marylander1940]

1 minute ago, Thomas_Belgium said:

In my opinion it isn't. For example Jalif porn is with condoms:

https://carnalplus.com/jalifstudio/

who said anything about porno..... 

[Thomas_Belgium]

1 minute ago, marylander1940 said:

who said anything about porno..... 

 

Nobody did, it was just an example.

[LookingAround]

On 5/16/2026 at 10:14 PM, marylander1940 said:

As others have said, in this day and age, BB is default! 

Reading this thread, I feel like I've entered into a time capsule with posters living in a time warp in which it's about 1991

[marylander1940]

6 minutes ago, LookingAround said:

Reading this thread, I feel like I've entered into a time capsule with posters living in a time warp in which it's about 1991

Unfortunately, plenty of cases in this forum of slut-shaming, HiV-shaming, BB-shaming, etc. in the era of PrEP... in this forum of all possible places. 

 

[BoyOnABoat]

I thought BB was default until a recent trip to Europe. I was in Spain and fucking raw still seemed to be not quite the standard with a lot of guys. I learned from someone that it was a little bit harder to get access to PrEP/Doxy there so a lot of guys still played with condoms. 

I never used them in any of my encounters there, but I think the BB == default is operating under the assumption that men have easy access to preventative care. 

[Thomas_Belgium]

4 minutes ago, BoyOnABoat said:

...I learned from someone that it was a little bit harder to get access to PrEP...

 

In my opinion 100% true.

[+ FrankR]

We are all adults here - we all make our own decisions when it comes to preferences and health.  I have always been clear with my intimate partners and providers: I use condoms. I am on Prep but don’t go bare; this is a precaution in case a condom rips.  I don’t like taking antibiotics unless I need to - after a diagnosis. (Have never had an STD btw). If that is not suitable, we both move on.  This is not rocket science.  

[Luv2play]

7 minutes ago, FrankR said:

We are all adults here - we all make our own decisions when it comes to preferences and health.  I have always been clear with my intimate partners and providers: I use condoms. I am on Prep but don’t go bare; this is a precaution in case a condom rips.  I don’t like taking antibiotics unless I need to - after a diagnosis. (Have never had an STD btw). If that is not suitable, we both move on.  This is not rocket science.  

Actually it is rocket science. The strides that have been made in HIV treatment and protection like PreP and PEP were unthinkable 20 or 30 years ago. 
Similar to rocketry, where rockets can be reused as one example, the medical field has benefited from researchers into HiV treatments. 
For years now we have been reading of drug resistance to various STIs but I am not aware of the supposed consequences of millions of people dying from these illnesses which killed before antibiotics made their appearance in the mid 20th century. 

[+ FrankR]

47 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

Actually it is rocket science. The strides that have been made in HIV treatment and protection like PreP and PEP were unthinkable 20 or 30 years ago. 
Similar to rocketry, where rockets can be reused as one example, the medical field has benefited from researchers into HiV treatments. 
For years now we have been reading of drug resistance to various STIs but I am not aware of the supposed consequences of millions of people dying from these illnesses which killed before antibiotics made their appearance in the mid 20th century. 

Agree to disagree. I know rocket science when I see it. The decision to wrap my tool (or not) is not rocket science. 🚀

[+ Jamie21]

I wonder how many of the guys who are critical of bareback sex because of the health risks are at the same time taking big risks with their health by smoking, drinking alcohol or having a bad diet / no exercise resulting in them being overweight?

We all make choices but it seems to me that those being critical of those of us who do bareback sex are taking a moralistic approach yet seem to be hiding that behind health arguments. 

[marylander1940]

7 hours ago, BoyOnABoat said:

I thought BB was default until a recent trip to Europe. I was in Spain and fucking raw still seemed to be not quite the standard with a lot of guys. I learned from someone that it was a little bit harder to get access to PrEP/Doxy there so a lot of guys still played with condoms. 

I never used them in any of my encounters there, but I think the BB == default is operating under the assumption that men have easy access to preventative care. 

They are backwards when it comes to PrEP in Prague even more 

[Nue2thegame]

21 hours ago, Luv2play said:

Actually it is rocket science. The strides that have been made in HIV treatment and protection like PreP and PEP were unthinkable 20 or 30 years ago. 
Similar to rocketry, where rockets can be reused as one example, the medical field has benefited from researchers into HiV treatments. 
For years now we have been reading of drug resistance to various STIs but I am not aware of the supposed consequences of millions of people dying from these illnesses which killed before antibiotics made their appearance in the mid 20th century. 

Development of effective anti retroviral agents was anticipated over 30 years ago and was the justification for the massive investment of time, money, and effort leading to effective treatment and PrEP which were game changers. This effectively controlled one of the 3 great pandemics within a century but public health experts are under no illusions that another one is coming.
Those of us that still prefer to use condoms (with or without PrEP) may do so  to reduce risks to other potential infectious diseases not impacted by PrEP or doxycycline including HPV (driving an increase in anal and oro pharyngeal cancers); emerging antibiotic resistant bacteria (chlamydia, gonorrhea and shigella, mentioned here this week, to name a few) and other yet to be identified infectious agents. Regarding the last possibility, several diseases not believed to be infectious were found to have transmissible causes late in the game, e.g. peptic ulcer disease (h pylori) and some lymphomas (viral). When a rectum is a receptacle for a large volume of semen from many different sources over time, we may be able to effectively reduce risk for several known infections but it also serves as a human incubator for many yet to be identified (or effects elucidated )viruses and bacteria.  This seems like a good bet for the origin of a pandemic. Gay men have a higher prevalence of certain malignancies which also makes this a plausible possibility. Don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade but these are my thoughts. Carpe diem but be careful.