Why do many clients think RMs want to travel haphazardly?

[JB_Studio38]

This is in reference to the ones who don’t want to arrange a deposit or be willing to confirm a visit ahead of time. I usually have about 6 nearby travel cities. In case anyone doesn’t know, RentMen allows both nearby travel cities with no dates up to about 250 miles away. They also allow travel cities with dates for locations further away.

I dislike it the most when someone references my nearby travel cities and says, “oh well just hit me up when you’re in town”. How does that even work? I’m supposed to just show up hoping you’ll be available at the same time I’m there? For all I know that may be a week away, the person may be out of town or not available at the same time anyway.

Or they’ll say, “don’t just come all the way here just for me”. Who said I was? Just because I need a deposit and confirmation doesn’t always mean I have no other purpose for either A) being in that city or B) connecting that city to other places I may go next. I just need to make sure I’m not wasting hotel hours sitting around with nothing planned because 99% of the time, getting same day clients never happens when I have less than 24 hours to use a hotel.

Also, usually when I go to a city: I’m not spending more than 1 or 2 nights max in a hotel at a time nowadays. I have designed my schedule and travels to where I am never just hanging around in a hotel, wasting money with nobody scheduled. Most times I’m already booked BEFORE arriving to a city, so I may not have time to schedule anyone else. 
 

It’s just best to take the direction of what the provider is suggesting when booking, versus trying to finagle around it or make up assumptions about how every provider should operate.

Edited December 5 by JB_Studio38

[Mark_fl]

I think what it means is, "I'm not open to paying for your travel here.  If you know when you'll be in town, please let me know and I'd love to arrange an appointment with you."

I don't thinks as nefarious as you make it sound.

[+ PhileasFogg]

I get your issue.  But I’d look at it this way - when you have a regular or two to cover your fixed costs, any other appointments are profit.  THAT’s what they mean

[SecretProvider]

8 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

I usually have about 6 nearby travel cities. In case anyone doesn’t know, RentMen allows both nearby travel cities with no dates up to about 250 miles away.

they don't know this - they search for eg. Baltimore and if you have it as your listed travel it will show as if you are there, except for a very small text at the bottom of your profile pic say (date123-date123)  They reach out because the website gives the impression that you are available in that location, at that time.  To avoid this as it gets so annoying I only put the city I am going to a week or two in advance. If you want those cities always listed - maybe have some text indicating that you only travel to those places with advance notice? (not that clients bother to read anyway!)

 

8 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

I dislike it the most when someone references my nearby travel cities and says, “oh well just hit me up when you’re in town”. How does that even work?

yeah its annoying when you waste time on messages like 'hey do you ever come to Nebraska?'  I keep a catalog of the cities and the profile name/number, and a week or two before I arrive I send a message 'hey, just letting you know I will be in town these dates, if you would like to schedule something, let me know'. I have made a lot of bookings this way. 

 

8 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

Also, usually when I go to a city: I’m not spending more than 1 or 2 nights max in a hotel at a time nowadays. I have designed my schedule and travels to where I am never just hanging around in a hotel, wasting money with nobody scheduled. Most times I’m already booked BEFORE arriving to a city, so I may not have time to schedule anyone else. 

SMART. 

 

[JB_Studio38]

8 hours ago, Mark_fl said:

I think what it means is, "I'm not open to paying for your travel here.  If you know when you'll be in town, please let me know and I'd love to arrange an appointment with you."

I don't thinks as nefarious as you make it sound.

The thing is, it’s not so much that I’m asking them to pay for my travel there. Even if I had $1,000 in my pocket, I’m not particularly eager to dash off to a city and just “cruise” for sex all day long. I know some people do that, but that’s the hookup app culture. 
 

Therefore I need to have some sort of idea that I’m going to see at least 1 confirmed person beforehand. I may be traveling thru on my way to another city, and passing thru anyway. But I still need to know WHEN to pass thru and IF I need to plan accommodations. I can’t just show up there and immediately expect something to happen within 24 hours.  
 

For example, on my last “tour”, I went to 6 towns in the Midwest that were all within 3-4 hours of each other. All except 1 had clients booked prior to going. And guess which one I didn’t have any clients in? The one I was advertising in with no clients booked ahead. Fortunately it was a dual purpose trip, but if it wasn’t: I’d of wasted hotel money and 175 miles driving there. 
 

And also as you said: people may ask when I’m in town. But that means they are expecting me to have some alternative purpose to be there. But again, if the travel cities are giving 6 options up to 250 miles away: I’m not just going to each one for no reason. I need to have a reason to go, and oftentimes it’s for an appointment. Once I get there, then I can possibly include other appointments. But like I say, most times I have clients scheduled before I arrive.

Edited December 6 by JB_Studio38

[Mark_fl]

8 minutes ago, JB_Studio38 said:

And also as you said: people may ask when I’m in town. But that means they are expecting me to have some alternative purpose to be there.

I'm not sure I follow this. We don't know or care WHY you're in town, as long as you aren't expecting us to cover the expense.

I think if you said that of you get a booking between x date and y date, you'd come to the area for a couple of days, I can't imagine that your interested party wouldn't book something knowing the pressure to fund or fill your whole trip wasn't on them. Maybe I'm off base here, and other clients can tell me so, but that's how I feel. If I ask a provider to come to a town not on his agenda, I'd expect to pay a premium.

[JB_Studio38]

6 hours ago, PhileasFogg said:

I get your issue.  But I’d look at it this way - when you have a regular or two to cover your fixed costs, any other appointments are profit.  THAT’s what they mean

Right, but I don’t always have regulars in every town. Sometimes I’m just open to go to a particular area. Like for example; in California I don’t always want to just stay in LA the entire time. I may want to explore the other cities in the region, but I can’t just go for nothing. I have to go for someone. And I’ll say, it not necessarily 99% of the time: but probably 50% of the time, that I’ve went for 1 client and did end up having another appointment while in the area. But it was usually just coincidence and GPS proximity working in my favor.
 

1 hour ago, SecretProvider said:

they don't know this - they search for eg. Baltimore and if you have it as your listed travel it will show as if you are there, except for a very small text at the bottom of your profile pic say (date123-date123)  They reach out because the website gives the impression that you are available in that location, at that time.  To avoid this as it gets so annoying I only put the city I am going to a week or two in advance. If you want those cities always listed - maybe have some text indicating that you only travel to those places with advance notice? (not that clients bother to read anyway!)

 

Yes, I say advance notice in all my ads. To many, that means the day before. Which isn’t exactly in advance. 
 

I also try to stick with the week or 2 in advance strategy, but it’s just not always realistic. Sometimes, I find myself having to advertise weeks and even MONTHS in advance. And unfortunately sometimes I have to postpone if there’s not enough firm bookings to go. That’s why many times I do try to go with an alternative purpose, so I can stick with the plans regardless. But I also can’t put finances and well being at risk, dashing off somewhere just because it sounds good; but then I don’t have a dollar in deposits received. 

[JB_Studio38]

11 minutes ago, Mark_fl said:

I'm not sure I follow this. We don't know or care WHY you're in town, as long as you aren't expecting us to cover the expense.

I think if you said that of you get a booking between x date and y date, you'd come to the area for a couple of days, I can't imagine that your interested party wouldn't book something knowing the pressure to fund or fill your whole trip wasn't on them. Maybe I'm off base here, and other clients can tell me so, but that's how I feel. If I ask a provider to come to a town not on his agenda, I'd expect to pay a premium.

It’s not about covering the expense. You may be thinking of covering airfare or something similar. I’m not talking about that. I’m just saying in general: I need to know I have a client and a session that I know how much money in particular waiting when I get there. I’m not going to spend money and magically go to a city, hoping to meet someone.

Also people say that shit all the time. “Hit me up when you’re in town”. Only for me to get there and they don’t answer texts, or they’re not available, or who knows. It’s not enough to go by. Even if I’m driving just an hour or 2 away, what am I supposed to do when I get there, just wait around for nobody? Makes no sense lol. 

Even tonight one of my favs texted me, asked when I’d be in his area. It’s 3 hours away. I said, I have no plans to be there: but if you want to make some, I’m available this weekend. We discussed availability and he sent deposit. Easy peasy. Non of that, “well when you get in the area here let me know”. Well I may not have a reason to go there. You say it doesn’t matter what our reason is, but I need a reason for someone. With no plans, I have no reason to go.

Edited December 6 by JB_Studio38

[+ SirBillybob]

I don’t need or want to hire that way. Some things are simply anachronistic for a reason. I’ve had no brushes with trade passing through, though I understand the effort and occupational vicissitudes associated with this model. Guest strippers, though, a different matter. 

Edited December 6 by SirBillybob

[+ PhileasFogg]

7 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

Right, but I don’t always have regulars in every town.

I understand.  In my world, we call this business development and regular clients are made by offering excellent service consistently.  There is always “startup risk and cost” in opening new markets  

you are building a book of business.  The better you are, the faster it comes.  Then, all this other stuff takes care of itself. 

You are getting an MBA with every challenge like this.  It’s just real and not academic 

Edited December 6 by PhileasFogg

[+ sniper]

Do you like ANYTHING about this job?

[hungry4darkmeat]

Funny I wish there were more providers who could host locally but in NYC virtually none host in manhattan so it’s just more convenient for me to get a room and host- plus it generally feels safer, and you can chill afterwards without any rush or particularly for us bottom boys having to travel when you’re feeling particularly open and used up lol

[+ PhileasFogg]

43 minutes ago, sniper said:

Do you like ANYTHING about this job?

No body truly likes their business until they work the kinks out and it’s humming along. 

just because his involves hummers doesn’t make it any different. 

Edited December 6 by PhileasFogg

[jmichaeliii]

I am not sure if this is on topic or not, but my frustration with being outside a major city is when a provider lists my area as a "Near Travel" and when you reach out to book, they either tell you its too far and wont come or want you to Uber them both ways.  Why bother listing the area then?

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

1 hour ago, sniper said:

Do you like ANYTHING about this job?

Apparently not. And it's not just this thread. It's a regular feature.
So @JB_Studio38,  you don't like that some clients refuse to pay a deposit? And you also don't like it when a customer asks you to contact him when he is in one of the cities you list on your RM travel schedule? Both of these seem to be perfectly reasonable actions on the part of the customer.
Very few of us have perfect jobs. We can all find things that we don't like and wish we could change. Try spending two hours putting on make-up before going to work each day.
Here's some free advice - stop the whining and kvetching. It's not going to get you much sympathy, and will only alienate potential clients.

BTC
🤡

[+ PhileasFogg]

Give him space guys…he’s refining his business model and asking questions 

Edited December 6 by PhileasFogg

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

15 minutes ago, PhileasFogg said:

Give him space guys…he’s refining his business model and asking questions 

Refining his business model? You've got to be kidding!
First of all, he is not asking questions as you claim, he is complaining about his job and his clients. He has been doing that here for ages using various screen names, the last one being Jarrod_Uncut.
Secondly, he has been in the business for at least 10 years, probably a lot longer than that (his RM ad was started Feb. 2013). He's not refining his business model. Unless you consider mocking his clients' intelligence and complaining about every aspect of his job to be "refining his business model."
You can give him some space if you want...

BTC
🤡

[jeezifonly]

The Poor Jarrod! show has had more reboots than House Hunters

[JB_Studio38]

On 12/6/2025 at 6:23 AM, sniper said:

Do you like ANYTHING about this job?

 
I’m glad you asked but: I’m not about to go down the rabbit hole of defending what I like or don’t like about the industry. 
 

It’s not so much about me not liking the job. It’s more to do with; a combination of RentMen’s approach of telling clients what our ability for travels are, versus what we are actually capable of doing. Which is likely all variable by the provider. 
 

It’s great that RentMen and other sites allow us to advertise 6-12 cities at a time, all of which I’m happy to visit. However, there isn’t a default promise that I’m just going physically be in those cities without real money being expected.
 

On 12/6/2025 at 8:01 AM, jmichaeliii said:

I am not sure if this is on topic or not, but my frustration with being outside a major city is when a provider lists my area as a "Near Travel" and when you reach out to book, they either tell you its too far and wont come or want you to Uber them both ways.  Why bother listing the area then?

 

Well like I said above: each provider may have differing methods for serving travel cities. I list travel cities because I can drive to them BUT: people have to be willing to coordinate properly.

I actually had to explain to 2 potential clients recently: just because I have a city listed doesn’t mean I’m just going to show up there by default. Some of these cities “nearby” are up to 4 hours away. To do that on same day notice or without any real clients confirmed is not possible. Even when I’ve done that once or twice, after a few times of sitting in a hotel for a night or 2 with no clients: I eventually come to recognize there needs to someone waiting before I go there.

I know that’s not possible in every city, but even last year I went out to Palm Springs for a night and a day on a Sunday as a “me” night, but also hoped someone would book. I spent $180 on a hotel but the few hours I had the hotel for, nobody ended up showing up. 
 

And nights like that, I end up going on hookup apps meeting someone to fuck for free, just to get money’s worth out of the hotel cost. However, that’s not necessarily an outcome I prefer to have. It’s almost a last ditch effort that I end up regretting because I spent money AND my cum. Which means even greater loss. I only like to do free hookups AFTER I get a paid client. And trust me: I can cum twice in a night 🤣 

On 12/6/2025 at 8:18 AM, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Apparently not. And it's not just this thread. It's a regular feature.
So @JB_Studio38,  you don't like that some clients refuse to pay a deposit? And you also don't like it when a customer asks you to contact him when he is in one of the cities you list on your RM travel schedule? Both of these seem to be perfectly reasonable actions on the part of the customer.
Very few of us have perfect jobs. We can all find things that we don't like and wish we could change. Try spending two hours putting on make-up before going to work each day.
Here's some free advice - stop the whining and kvetching. It's not going to get you much sympathy, and will only alienate potential clients.

BTC
🤡

Ha, thanks. But I also have some advice for you via Cardi B 🤣 

“Now let's talk about this hating ass bitch
Ungrateful ass bitch
Fake friend ass bitch, a clown ass bitch 
On the 'net, kick your friend while she down ass bitch”

Jokes aside: my point is, if you’re going to give advice be genuine. You seem spiteful, why are you miffed with something I have to deal with? That’s not a good characteristic of a clown:

 

Edited Tuesday at 07:27 AM by JB_Studio38

[JB_Studio38]

On 12/6/2025 at 8:55 AM, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Refining his business model? You've got to be kidding!
First of all, he is not asking questions as you claim, he is complaining about his job and his clients. He has been doing that here for ages using various screen names, the last one being Jarrod_Uncut.
Secondly, he has been in the business for at least 10 years, probably a lot longer than that (his RM ad was started Feb. 2013). He's not refining his business model. Unless you consider mocking his clients' intelligence and complaining about every aspect of his job to be "refining his business model."
You can give him some space if you want...

BTC
🤡

I’m not at all ashamed. You should be ashamed for being a clown out of character. Who are you to question my credentials, are you paying my travel and hotel bills to criticize what I can or can’t do? Can you stand 10+ years in MY industry? And I’m not talking about being Ronald McDonald ✋🏾 

Yes I have been in the biz awhile, and it’s because of that which is why I’m less inclined to take on unnecessary risks. Traveling to a city without anyone scheduled is one I don’t want to take.

You talk about taking 2 hours to put on makeup? Well have you sat in a car for 4 hours traveling to a city, then booked a hotel and waited 12 hours for nobody to show up? And then been stuck with the cost of gas and hotel to get there and back? 
 

Also nobody is mocking client’s intelligence. You sound overly sensitive and prejudice. You don’t understand because you think the practice should be seamless and easy. But unless you’re actively in the industry yourself, you can’t really understand how things could be better than what it’s portrayed.

Even today I had an example, and I’ll post it what I said on another website:

 

It’s THAT type of stuff why I don’t travel without confirmed bookings. What I will do is, revolve my schedule around the clients who can be considerate and respect my time. Then I go about my business and schedule. I’m NOT going to be waiting around or driving around town to town aimlessly waiting for people to figure out what the hell they want to do. I have a life. 

[Becket]

JB you are going to wear yourself out debating these things with many of our folks. You already seem to be frustrated. Trying to convince a lot of fellows around here of why you are "right" and we are "wrong" is an endeavor destined to leave you......shall we say......unfulfilled. 

But, hell, maybe you're the type of guy who loves nothing more than a strenuous debate. If so, you're gonna have a wonderful time!

Cheers, 

[JB_Studio38]

42 minutes ago, Becket said:

JB you are going to wear yourself out debating these things with many of our folks. You already seem to be frustrated. Trying to convince a lot of fellows around here of why you are "right" and we are "wrong" is an endeavor destined to leave you......shall we say......unfulfilled. 

But, hell, maybe you're the type of guy who loves nothing more than a strenuous debate. If so, you're gonna have a wonderful time!

Cheers, 

Likewise cheers 🍻 

Trust me I know, but you know what? So be it. As we’ve seen lately, it’s hard to get people to agree on things.

BUT, I still feel when people can see a different perspective they can be open to change how they go about things. I’m not here to argue or fight because nobody here has done anything wrong specifically. However, it’s just a general conversation about people who utilize the RentMen platform.

I don’t know why some people here want to resort to making it like it’s an attack on ALL clients (it’s not).  
 

It’s more so discouraging a way of trying to coordinate travel that’s not helpful for either side, not a particular person. There’s many cities on RentMen that have NO escorts listed. I’m in the Midwest, outside of Chicago and Minneapolis: there’s cities that may only have few to nobody. Some aren’t particularly small either, but they’re far out, have no gay bars, and just no real male sex work lifestyle at all. That’s why I say there has to be some sort of plans that I expect to have a client on schedule.
 

That being said, I try to detail as much as I can in the 2,000 characters RentMen allows us. The problem is, people don’t seem to have much direction on how to book us. RentMen lets us throw out a bunch of cities, and show ourselves: yet guys really have no clue on what it means. 
 

People just have to accept, not every escort is going to be open to dash off to a city by default. I know some people have the advantage of either having a work conference, alternative travel career, or in my case: friends and family who live in the travel cities we advertise. Sometimes I still find myself going to cities, even with no clients pre-booked. I did that in Denver earlier this year, I did it in Detroit also. And Dallas. I just happened to know people there already. 
 

Sometimes it works out, many times it doesn’t. I just can’t operate on a maybe/maybe not schedule. Guys forget: when I go to a city I need a place to stay. That’s hotel money. It’s gas money. And I can’t rely on some vague RentMen and RentMasseur emails to be a deciding factor. People’s communication on the platforms aren’t that great, and sometimes it takes hours for people to reply back. Most travel cities I go now, I need 24-48 hours notice minimum. But I’m still advertising weeks in advance. If I happen to take on someone short notice, great. But it’s not a strategy I rely on. 

Edited Tuesday at 09:08 AM by JB_Studio38

[Mark_fl]

I think a big part of your frustration may be that you do things differently than either clients think you do, or how other providers do.

When I see a provider has listed a city with a date, I assume that's when he will be there, whether I book or not. If you list a bunch of cities with no dates, I assume that you will travel that far, but only if you have a booking with me, and I would be expected to compensate for travel time.

If that assumption is not correct, I'd recommend finding a way to say so in your ad. I can only speak for myself, but I would find it too much pressure to have a provider come to a city just for me and hope he gets other work. This might be part of the disconnect. 

[JB_Studio38]

5 hours ago, Mark_fl said:

I think a big part of your frustration may be that you do things differently than either clients think you do, or how other providers do.

When I see a provider has listed a city with a date, I assume that's when he will be there, whether I book or not. If you list a bunch of cities with no dates, I assume that you will travel that far, but only if you have a booking with me, and I would be expected to compensate for travel time.

If that assumption is not correct, I'd recommend finding a way to say so in your ad. I can only speak for myself, but I would find it too much pressure to have a provider come to a city just for me and hope he gets other work. This might be part of the disconnect. 

So when we talk about dates, I don’t particularly like that feature, but that’s the only way to be listed in a city outside of the 4 hour max distance that’s allowed. But I have always stated in my ad that travel dates are approximate. 
 

Despite the feature being available, putting dates is almost putting the cart before the horse. I put them up because that’s what I have to work with, but right now my current strategy is to only go to where I’m invited. Or sometimes I’ll just move my entire ad to a different state or city on and off with no dates.
 

Also, even advertising dates in a city: I’m finding it’s not always getting enough exposure. I won’t show on the main page on RentMen.Eu but I will on Rent.Men. I don’t always know which version clients are using, but I find I get more hits when I directly move my ad to an area. So throughout the week, I’ll just post in other cities I plan to visit.

And please don’t focus on a provider coming to you, hoping to get other work as being a burden. Trust me, I do that all the time and most times I end up booking other clients in cities surrounding it, even if it’s different than the one the client is in. That’s part of going to places by invite. For example, I have a client who invited me to 1 town, but over the course of the week I went to 5 cities all within 2-3 hours away, and it was a productive mix of more clients, a crush, and meeting with friends I met at a camp weekend last month. It was not a case of me going JUST for that one client, BUT: I needed to have some definitive purpose to go at all.

I think some clients over think it, and try to think ahead of me. Stop 🛑 lol. Just plan the session, and confirm. Don’t try to figure out what I’m doing, or what other reasons I’m there for. What’s worse than going to a city for 1 client? Going to a city with NO clients, and then trying to scramble to find someone in a short period. That’s why I said, I’m not reliant on travel dates. It’s all about going where I’m invited. If someone can’t properly invite me, I’m just not going to bother going. 
 

The gay pay sex scene right now has become very strategic. Too many people pretend they want to meet, but then they go silent. I have rows of emails from clients in other cities, who never text me to confirm anything. Or they expect to handle everything via email where they take 5-6 hours to reply back to a message. It’s so annoying, when time moves fast and I have to make decisions about where I’m going to be, each day. I’m just not doing any unnecessary risk taking, and if I do there needs to be an anchor client who’s reliable to make it worth it. Otherwise I just won’t go.