Logistics of hotel incalls

[moonlight]

This is something I've been curious about for a while. How do providers (particularly masseurs, who are seeing more clients than escorts) stay under the radar when taking clients at a hotel? Especially higher end ones with secure elevators and 24/7 security staff in the lobby?

Say a provider is staying at a hotel for a week or two. Surely the staff will notice him meeting men in the lobby multiple times daily and they would figure out the score quickly.

He would also be going through a lot of towels...

Do hotels really not care? A masseur recently came through my area and I thought his choice of hotel was odd because he was staying in a swanky suite in an already expensive hotel. That would take a lot of massages to break even. And I thought that kind of volume would probably attract attention.

[+ Jamie21]

They don’t care. I must admit I don’t stay at a hotel and meet multiple clients. It’s usually me visiting a client at their hotel, and I’ve taken my table in to many of them (although often the client opts for massage on the bed rather than the table). I’ve never been challenged taking in the table, even at high end hotels. At most hotels the client comes to meet me in the lobby because a key is needed to access the lifts (elevator 😉). Hotel staff are not bothered as long as you are discreet and look professional.

I also book hotels to do filming in. I have the massage table and lights / equipment for filming. Obviously I’m very discreet about it, and I ask the guys who I’m filming with to arrive discreetly etc. There’s never been a problem. Just leave the room nice and tidy and don’t make too much noise. Hotel staff have seen everything, they’re cool about sex work as long as it’s discreet and quiet. No drugs, no loud music, no drama. 
 

[sulika]

I work in a hotel in NYC and we get a fair share of escorts staying and trust me we don’t really care, as long as no problems arise, and usually don’t. So don’t be too concerned to meet escorts at their hotel.

[mtaabq]

My father was in the hotel biz for 25+ years, many of those in management. He once told me that as long as your actions do not disturb the other guests, and as long as your conduct and appearance are acceptable, then hotel personnel will leave you alone. In hotels with key-activated elevators, you go meet your provider in the lobby. These guys are pros (or should be) and they know how to conduct themselves without drawing attention or attracting scrutiny. “Discretion” is the key word here. Also, a number of my hires have shown up at hotels in a sport coat or blazer; dressed like that you won’t register suspicion. Even when carrying a massage table. (Tip the bellman twenty bucks and chances are he will walk your provider to your room AND carry the table.) Veteran hotel employees have seen it all; they know who’s who and what’s what. 

[moonlight]

35 minutes ago, mtaabq said:

My father was in the hotel biz for 25+ years, many of those in management. He once told me that as long as your actions do not disturb the other guests, and as long as your conduct and appearance are acceptable, then hotel personnel will leave you alone. In hotels with key-activated elevators, you go meet your provider in the lobby. These guys are pros (or should be) and they know how to conduct themselves without drawing attention or attracting scrutiny. “Discretion” is the key word here. Also, a number of my hires have shown up at hotels in a sport coat or blazer; dressed like that you won’t register suspicion. Even when carrying a massage table. (Tip the bellman twenty bucks and chances are he will walk your provider to your room AND carry the table.) Veteran hotel employees have seen it all; they know who’s who and what’s what. 

I've never really had concerns with hotel outcalls. It just seemed to me that hotel incalls (clients going to the provider's hotel) have the potential to invite more scrutiny from hotel staff/security.

Edited yesterday at 12:25 AM by moonlight

[mtaabq]

22 minutes ago, moonlight said:

I've never really had concerns with hotel outcalls. It just seemed to me that hotel incalls (clients going to the provider's hotel) have the potential to invite more scrutiny from hotel staff/security.

Ah. I wasn’t looking at it completely from the provider as hotel guest (incall) point of view. My bad. Upon reflection I can understand the concern. A provider inviting a variety of men to his hotel room could invite more scrutiny. Again, the conduct of both provider and client are key. If they are not calling attention to themselves, if the other guests are not being disturbed, and if the provider is current on all hotel charges, then the hotel should have no room for complaint nor any reason to take action. The hotel staff and security can “suspect” all they want. Believe me - a barking dog or noisy kids are going to draw more attention than a well-behaved man welcoming male guests in 1- and 2-hour time blocks. And don’t forget to tip housekeepers - ten bucks or better - as that will buy you a lot of goodwill. 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

3 hours ago, moonlight said:

Say a provider is staying at a hotel for a week or two. Surely the staff will notice him meeting men in the lobby multiple times daily and they would figure out the score quickly.

He would also be going through a lot of towels...

I just came back from a week trip to NYC, where I had multiple people visit me in my room each day (either hookups or I hired).  Most of them I met outside the hotel and we walked in together.  Some were waiting for me in the lobby.  I never had an issue with the hotel.  I was given 3 sets of towels a day which was satisfactory.  Last year I spent 2 weeks at the same hotel and hired more aggressively, so I occasionally asked for extra towels and the request was honored. 

Only twice have I had an issue bringing an escort to my room,  one in Barcelona and one in Zurich.  Both cases were after 11pm when the lobby doors were locked.  In Barcelona, they merely wanted to see the ID of my escort friend who was accompanying me to the room.  In Zurich, they would not admit my escort friend because I had only paid city taxes for 1 person in the room instead of for 2. That is why now I always make the reservation for 2 people.  I had no problem bringing a guest to that same hotel the next day before they closed the lobby doors at 11pm.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

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Edited yesterday at 01:33 AM by Vegas_Millennial

[Simon Suraci]

While I prefer short term rentals, I have fewer issues at hotels. Hotels don’t care; staff see everything. As long as you’re respectful and discreet, all is well.

Some short term rental hosts are more easily scandalized, so I take many steps to avoid problems. Time consuming but worth the hassle. Hotels I don’t give a second thought.

In hotels I mostly stay 1-2 nights so as not to run out of clean linens and then catch up to it on the next stop. Some hotel brands offer laundry in the room or shared facilities, which will work for longer stays. Generally I can snag a better deal at a short term rental. I don’t want to rent bottom of the barrel hotel/motel brands. It’s bad for business, so I economize with short term rentals.

[BuffaloKyle]

I worked briefly at a hotel and can confirm that as long as you're not disturbing guests the front desk won't care what you are doing. Guests come up as well all the time asking for more towels so that won't raise suspicion either.

[+ DrownedBoy]

I hire at hotels all the time.

The decent chain ones don't care - it's common for a provider to just walk directly to my room.

In better hotels, you have to come down to help them with the elevator key.

In either case, nobody on staff cared, and I got a wink from a clerk who assumed I'd have "guests" overnight. The only thing you have to watch out for is people you know, if you're at a convention or something, and even then there's ways to minimize your visibility.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

I've both hosted providers at hotels and visited them. As others have said, the key thing is to be discreet and not draw attention to yourself, whether you're a client or provider. 

[Constantine]

21 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

They don’t care. I must admit I don’t stay at a hotel and meet multiple clients. It’s usually me visiting a client at their hotel, and I’ve taken my table in to many of them (although often the client opts for massage on the bed rather than the table). I’ve never been challenged taking in the table, even at high end hotels. At most hotels the client comes to meet me in the lobby because a key is needed to access the lifts (elevator 😉). Hotel staff are not bothered as long as you are discreet and look professional.

I also book hotels to do filming in. I have the massage table and lights / equipment for filming. Obviously I’m very discreet about it, and I ask the guys who I’m filming with to arrive discreetly etc. There’s never been a problem. Just leave the room nice and tidy and don’t make too much noise. Hotel staff have seen everything, they’re cool about sex work as long as it’s discreet and quiet. No drugs, no loud music, no drama. 
 

 

Hilton and Novotel don't require keycards in my experience.

[Constantine]

I would stay away from Citizen M though. At the one I stayed in the staff watch the entrance like a hawk so easily catch on when you keep meeting providers. I got a nasty glare from an employee.

[Whippoorwill]

A major reason many people (like us) use hotel rooms is for "illicit" sex of one kind or another. Everyone knows and no one cares as long as your screams of ecstasy don't disturb the neighbors or you pull the chandelier out of the ceiling hanging on it. Oh yes, for the sake of the maid, strip the bed and wrap the sheets around the towels and leave on the floor...the maid knows what that means. 

 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

4 hours ago, Constantine said:

I would stay away from Citizen M though. At the one I stayed in the staff watch the entrance like a hawk so easily catch on when you keep meeting providers. I got a nasty glare from an employee.

I couldn't care less what some uptight doorman thinks of me. 

[DMonDude]

6 hours ago, Constantine said:

I would stay away from Citizen M though. At the one I stayed in the staff watch the entrance like a hawk so easily catch on when you keep meeting providers. I got a nasty glare from an employee.

I didn't have this problem at Citizen M. I actually really love that hotel for local stay-cations. Though i know each one in each city is probably very different. But the one time i hired at my local Citizen M. The guy (the provider) walked in on his own, went past the front desk staff, and sat somewhere in the "living room"/lobby/work area right next to the elevators. I came down and got him and took him up to the room. Then about 2 hours later he left on his own. For him walking in and leaving, he probably just looked like someone coming to go to their room or visit a friend. No issues at all.

I know Citizen M locks the lobby door after a certain time of night though and my meeting was before that time. So maybe it would have been different if i went down to the lobby at 11pm to go let the guy in, i don't know.

[Constantine]

30 minutes ago, DMonDude said:

I didn't have this problem at Citizen M. I actually really love that hotel for local stay-cations. Though i know each one in each city is probably very different. But the one time i hired at my local Citizen M. The guy (the provider) walked in on his own, went past the front desk staff, and sat somewhere in the "living room"/lobby/work area right next to the elevators. I came down and got him and took him up to the room. Then about 2 hours later he left on his own. For him walking in and leaving, he probably just looked like someone coming to go to their room or visit a friend. No issues at all.

I know Citizen M locks the lobby door after a certain time of night though and my meeting was before that time. So maybe it would have been different if i went down to the lobby at 11pm to go let the guy in, i don't know.

 

The sink in the bedroom is also a deal breaker for me in its own right.