cumconnoiseur Posted May 22 Posted May 22 First post. I'm about to start my hiring era. I'm wondering, say for example I have an agreement with a provider for an hour of his time. Is it a foregone conclusion or expectation (in his perspective) that he's cumming for me at the end of that hour? Or do I have to specifically ask for it during negotiation? I've heard of guys who take multiple clients a day so I'm wondering if they're cumming for each client. I have to ask because getting the cum is always the goal for me when having sex, and if I need to make it clear with the provider from the get-go. italianboyph and LAWestKC 2
jmichaeliii Posted May 22 Posted May 22 What I have found is with some providers you can have an agreement and upcharge to have it happen. Some just will not. The best situations are when it just happens naturally because you have bonded so well with him. Those are my favorites. Poppie, White Daddy Top, Peter Eater and 3 others 3 3
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted May 22 Posted May 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, cumconnoiseur said: First post. I'm about to start my hiring era. I'm wondering, say for example I have an agreement with a provider for an hour of his time. Is it a foregone conclusion or expectation (in his perspective) that he's cumming for me at the end of that hour? Or do I have to specifically ask for it during negotiation? I've heard of guys who take multiple clients a day so I'm wondering if they're cumming for each client. I have to ask because getting the cum is always the goal for me when having sex, and if I need to make it clear with the provider from the get-go. Welcum! You'll find the Search 🔎 feature very useful. Here's a similar thread already started: And here: Edited May 22 by Vegas_Millennial marylander1940, pubic_assistance, cumconnoiseur and 2 others 2 3
SirBillybob Posted May 22 Posted May 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, cumconnoiseur said: First post. I'm about to start my hiring era. I'm wondering, say for example I have an agreement with a provider for an hour of his time. Is it a foregone conclusion or expectation (in his perspective) that he's cumming for me at the end of that hour? Or do I have to specifically ask for it during negotiation? I've heard of guys who take multiple clients a day so I'm wondering if they're cumming for each client. I have to ask because getting the cum is always the goal for me when having sex, and if I need to make it clear with the provider from the get-go. I assume that, like for most, while your own orgasm may yield the secondary benefit of being appreciated by another, the pathway to your own arousal that is sufficiently robust for orgasmic inevitability relies on more than that secondary benefit, particularly in solo self-pleasuring. Without the necessary true arousal occurring because of missing components at the time you can simply move on with impunity, wait for another day. It’s not another dollar that promotes the erotic aroused state, more than the basics of physical erection, you yourself rely on for orgasm. In fact, your own arousal will now rely on the inevitability that the orgasm you require as bottom line may also require that he convey to you in some way a convincing degree of arousal, appearing adequately similar to the sufficient natural aroused condition you yourself possess as leading to your own orgasm. Perhaps you could imagine hypothetical contexts for yourself where your access to your own orgasm is impeded by absence of some or all of the factors that heighten the arousal upon which subsequent orgasm depends. If you were to try to enact them you might risk enhancing the challenge of feeling convinced that your escort partner is genuinely aroused when you later transact. Not so much a problem if you can concede that his orgasm is performative and does not hinge on desire and arousal stages in the way that we naturally access such sequences to get to orgasm. However, you might also become more tuned into the dilemma posed by an expectation that the escort perform arousal and orgasm for the sake of an outcome that may deviate widely from what impels those phenomena more naturally in his non-transactional sexual experiences. Punter belief and assertion that the escort is genuinely turned on in a way that approaches his experiences based on preference is usually a suspension of reality. But then fantasy figures prominently so that’s OK. The important thing to consider is that metaphorically at least one if not both of you has his hand tied behind his back. What could be more natural than to desire that one’s partner is authentically turned on and that the authenticity could be guaranteed by a standard objective monetary reward? However what we want and think rigidly is essential may get in our way. You may also discover that simply conveying you really appreciate, without potentially deal-breaking insistence, an orgasm that he possibly but not inevitably will have accessed when with you won’t drastically reduce the worth of a collective of the hiring experiences over time. Edited May 22 by SirBillybob pubic_assistance and hungry4darkmeat 1 1
Nightowl Posted May 22 Posted May 22 A provider who sees a lot of clients in a day may not want, or be physically able, to cum for all of the clients he sees in a day. If he did, his dick would probably be red, swollen and raw. In addition, some providers have OF or JFF channels and save themselves for filming. I consider myself lucky and even flattered if my provider cums; flattered because it indicates—to me anyway—that he feels comfortable completely letting himself go in my presence. If he’s moaning as he cums, it’s even better. + KensingtonHomo, pubic_assistance, Poppie and 2 others 2 1 2
+ FrankR Posted May 22 Posted May 22 32 minutes ago, Nightowl said: A provider who sees a lot of clients in a day may not want, or be physically able, to cum for all of the clients he sees in a day. If he did, his dick would probably be red, swollen and raw. In addition, some providers have OF or JFF channels and save themselves for filming. I consider myself lucky and even flattered if my provider cums; flattered because it indicates—to me anyway—that he feels comfortable completely letting himself go in my presence. If he’s moaning as he cums, it’s even better. You certainly should tell your provider that you want him to cum as part of your visit - that way he also knows what to expect. Age can also make a huge difference, most of us probably remember how easy it was to turn on the fountain in our younger days… Whippoorwill, pubic_assistance and TorontoDrew 1 1 1
Nightowl Posted May 22 Posted May 22 39 minutes ago, FrankR said: You certainly should tell your provider that you want him to cum as part of your visit - that way he also knows what to expect. Age can also make a huge difference, most of us probably remember how easy it was to turn on the fountain in our younger days… True, it never hurts to ask… As for age, multiple spurts over the course of a day during my youth were certainly routine. Whippoorwill 1
cumconnoiseur Posted May 22 Author Posted May 22 Thank you for the responses! I will make it clear with the provider that his cum is the centerpiece of the transaction. It's going to be a weekend treat so I'm hoping to get a big one! + KensingtonHomo, Whippoorwill, pubic_assistance and 1 other 1 1 2
marylander1940 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 6 hours ago, cumconnoiseur said: First post. I'm about to start my hiring era. I'm wondering, say for example I have an agreement with a provider for an hour of his time. Is it a foregone conclusion or expectation (in his perspective) that he's cumming for me at the end of that hour? Or do I have to specifically ask for it during negotiation? I've heard of guys who take multiple clients a day so I'm wondering if they're cumming for each client. I have to ask because getting the cum is always the goal for me when having sex, and if I need to make it clear with the provider from the get-go. no, it's not... unless you ask for it because that's what you want as a client. I would also suggest a tip as an incentive. Let's remember it's a business and they might have another client afterwards, besides it's unlikely for them to be attracted to most of their clients. Whippoorwill and pubic_assistance 1 1
Aaron 90 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Ask for it, and if they do, make sure to pay and tip appropriately. Nothing like having your favorite providers warm load covering your face or hitting the back of your throat 😋 pubic_assistance, Bmwguym5 and Whippoorwill 1 1 1
MscleLovr Posted May 22 Posted May 22 If you want something very specific, always ask for it upfront. I never got turned down for being direct and asking in advance. I’m sort of the reverse of you. I’m a selfish top and when I’m done pounding, I love to lie back and be sucked off by a hungry bottom. For me, there is nothing finer than a good cocksucker who makes me moan and groan as I climax. It’s great to unload in a warm mouth, and it’s hot to see my guy swallow. Best of all is when the guy nurses my cock to lick it clean and get every last drop. On any date, I always checked whether a guy would be compatible with me. And before a first date, I’d mention how I like to finish and be finished off. Some guys loved to serve and did it all; some were happy to suck to completion but not to swallow; and some guys said No to cum-in-mouth but wanted me to unload on their face and/or pecs A couple of times, when there was good chemistry with guys who’d originally refused, they chose to please me and did all that I like 😎 + FrankR, pubic_assistance, DznNYC and 4 others 2 2 1 2
cumconnoiseur Posted May 22 Author Posted May 22 3 hours ago, Aaron 90 said: Ask for it, and if they do, make sure to pay and tip appropriately. Nothing like having your favorite providers warm load covering your face or hitting the back of your throat 😋 I've explicitly informed the provider about the things I want to happen and he has acknowledged them. I'm the type to keep just the head in my mouth as the guy is shooting though, so I can enjoy the load for a bit before swallowing 😋 1 hour ago, MscleLovr said: If you want something very specific, always ask for it upfront. I never got turned down for being direct and asking in advance. I’m sort of the reverse of you. I’m a selfish top and when I’m done pounding, I love to lie back and be sucked off by a hungry bottom. For me, there is nothing finer than a good cocksucker who makes me moan and groan as I climax. It’s great to unload in a warm mouth, and it’s hot to see my guy swallow. Best of all is when the guy nurses my cock to lick it clean and get every last drop. On any date, I always checked whether a guy would be compatible with me. And before a first date, I’d mention how I like to finish and be finished off. Some guys loved to serve and did it all; some were happy to suck to completion but not to swallow; and some guys said No to cum-in-mouth but wanted me to unload on their face and/or pecs A couple of times, when there was good chemistry with guys who’d originally refused, they chose to please me and did all that I like 😎 We are indeed polar opposites. Although with hookups, cumming is kind of expected, so I haven't really considered it before. First time hiring so I'm still learning the ropes and will definitely clarify anything I'm not sure about with the provider instead of assuming. Gotta say though, of the ~800 (ballpark estimate) dicks I've enjoyed so far, there were only about a dozen where I didn't get to eat the load for various reasons. Swallowing cum is the goal of having sex for me 💦 Whippoorwill, cany10011, pubic_assistance and 1 other 1 1 1 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 23 Posted May 23 If you're as much of a connoisseur at sucking cock as you are of cum, you can bet most escorts will blow a load in you. TorontoDrew, Luv2play, pubic_assistance and 3 others 4 1 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted May 23 Posted May 23 14 hours ago, MscleLovr said: On any date, I always checked whether a guy would be compatible with me. And before a first date, I’d mention how I like to finish and be finished off. Some guys loved to serve and did it all; some were happy to suck to completion but not to swallow; and some guys said No to cum-in-mouth but wanted me to unload on their face and/or pecs A couple of times, when there was good chemistry with guys who’d originally refused, they chose to please me and did all that I like 😎 This is beautiful 😍 Be sure to use this in your wedding vows 💕 BSR, Whippoorwill, pubic_assistance and 2 others 5
+ Jamie21 Posted May 23 Posted May 23 I’ve a regular client who has been visiting for years. Massage starts with him laying on his front. After about 15 minutes, as I stand and massage his head, he lifts his head up and starts to suck me. He continues sucking until I cum in his mouth. Then he lowers his head and we continue with the massage to ultimately end with his happy ending. Occasionally I’m anxious about whether I can cum for him (if I’ve had a busy day or whatever) but to his credit he’s an excellent sucker and has always managed to get a load (occasionally I have to do some hand work to get close but he always finishes off with me shooting inside). He swallows it all too. The lesson is if you’re skilled (with hand, mouth or hole)… you’re likely to get a load. Aaron 90, TorontoDrew, pubic_assistance and 6 others 7 1 1
DMICS Posted May 25 Posted May 25 I always mention when contacting, pre-booking a provider that finishing is important to me. In my years of hiring I've only had that unfulfilled twice, both by regulars who had "off nights," which is understandable and happens to everyone. Mention that request when booking. Yukon21, Whippoorwill and + ApexNomad 2 1
italianboyph Posted May 27 Posted May 27 If you're hiring a provider for an hour he should cum for you regardless, especially if that's what you're looking for. + Vegas_Millennial and + ApexNomad 1 1
SometimesBi Posted June 4 Posted June 4 All this talk of providers cumming in a mouth, on a face, on pecs, etc. Some of us bottoms would prefer to take his cum up our ass. Sounds like that could be a more challenging request of providers? + BenjaminNicholas and craigville beach 2
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted June 4 Posted June 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, SometimesBi said: All this talk of providers cumming in a mouth, on a face, on pecs, etc. Some of us bottoms would prefer to take his cum up our ass. Sounds like that could be a more challenging request of providers? Not in my experience. The men I hire usually cum in my arse. But as in all situations, it varies. It depends on both the escort and the arse. 😊 Edited June 4 by Vegas_Millennial pubic_assistance and Whippoorwill 1 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted June 4 Posted June 4 4 hours ago, SometimesBi said: Sounds like that could be a more challenging request of providers? Nope. For me, it's the easiest way for to blow my load. Oral requires good technique to get me off. Not everyone has that. A bottom just has to have a clean hole and be able to take a pounding. thomas, pubic_assistance, Luv2play and 2 others 4 1
Keenan Posted June 4 Posted June 4 On 5/22/2025 at 3:29 AM, cumconnoiseur said: First post. I'm about to start my hiring era. I'm wondering, say for example I have an agreement with a provider for an hour of his time. Is it a foregone conclusion or expectation (in his perspective) that he's cumming for me at the end of that hour? Or do I have to specifically ask for it during negotiation? I've heard of guys who take multiple clients a day so I'm wondering if they're cumming for each client. I have to ask because getting the cum is always the goal for me when having sex, and if I need to make it clear with the provider from the get-go. Make it clear with the provider prior to the session that it's something you'd like. With that said setting the appointment at least a day before might be best to make sure he hasn't seen anyone else that day. pubic_assistance, Medin, hungry4darkmeat and 1 other 1 2 1
hungry4darkmeat Posted June 5 Posted June 5 (edited) On 5/22/2025 at 5:36 AM, SirBillybob said: I assume that, like for most, while your own orgasm may yield the secondary benefit of being appreciated by another, the pathway to your own arousal that is sufficiently robust for orgasmic inevitability relies on more than that secondary benefit, particularly in solo self-pleasuring. Without the necessary true arousal occurring because of missing components at the time you can simply move on with impunity, wait for another day. It’s not another dollar that promotes the erotic aroused state, more than the basics of physical erection, you yourself rely on for orgasm. In fact, your own arousal will now rely on the inevitability that the orgasm you require as bottom line may also require that he convey to you in some way a convincing degree of arousal, appearing adequately similar to the sufficient natural aroused condition you yourself possess as leading to your own orgasm. Perhaps you could imagine hypothetical contexts for yourself where your access to your own orgasm is impeded by absence of some or all of the factors that heighten the arousal upon which subsequent orgasm depends. If you were to try to enact them you might risk enhancing the challenge of feeling convinced that your escort partner is genuinely aroused when you later transact. Not so much a problem if you can concede that his orgasm is performative and does not hinge on desire and arousal stages in the way that we naturally access such sequences to get to orgasm. However, you might also become more tuned into the dilemma posed by an expectation that the escort perform arousal and orgasm for the sake of an outcome that may deviate widely from what impels those phenomena more naturally in his non-transactional sexual experiences. Punter belief and assertion that the escort is genuinely turned on in a way that approaches his experiences based on preference is usually a suspension of reality. But then fantasy figures prominently so that’s OK. The important thing to consider is that metaphorically at least one if not both of you has his hand tied behind his back. What could be more natural than to desire that one’s partner is authentically turned on and that the authenticity could be guaranteed by a standard objective monetary reward? However what we want and think rigidly is essential may get in our way. You may also discover that simply conveying you really appreciate, without potentially deal-breaking insistence, an orgasm that he possibly but not inevitably will have accessed when with you won’t drastically reduce the worth of a collective of the hiring experiences over time. Very well said, although there are many of us who get off om getting others off and that’s perfectly okay. I would add that I’ve found that letting providers know what im looking for specifically and that i tip handsomely for good service usually means we can skip the up charge and ensure that i get what I’m looking for. This is particularly good practice when rehiring providers repeatedly as youll develop an understanding and they’ll be motivated to make the client happy since a happy client is a return client. Edited June 5 by hungry4darkmeat Whippoorwill, pubic_assistance and SirBillybob 2 1
mikeyspark Posted June 15 Posted June 15 On 5/22/2025 at 4:36 AM, SirBillybob said: I assume that, like for most, while your own orgasm may yield the secondary benefit of being appreciated by another, the pathway to your own arousal that is sufficiently robust for orgasmic inevitability relies on more than that secondary benefit, particularly in solo self-pleasuring. Without the necessary true arousal occurring because of missing components at the time you can simply move on with impunity, wait for another day. It’s not another dollar that promotes the erotic aroused state, more than the basics of physical erection, you yourself rely on for orgasm. In fact, your own arousal will now rely on the inevitability that the orgasm you require as bottom line may also require that he convey to you in some way a convincing degree of arousal, appearing adequately similar to the sufficient natural aroused condition you yourself possess as leading to your own orgasm. Perhaps you could imagine hypothetical contexts for yourself where your access to your own orgasm is impeded by absence of some or all of the factors that heighten the arousal upon which subsequent orgasm depends. If you were to try to enact them you might risk enhancing the challenge of feeling convinced that your escort partner is genuinely aroused when you later transact. Not so much a problem if you can concede that his orgasm is performative and does not hinge on desire and arousal stages in the way that we naturally access such sequences to get to orgasm. However, you might also become more tuned into the dilemma posed by an expectation that the escort perform arousal and orgasm for the sake of an outcome that may deviate widely from what impels those phenomena more naturally in his non-transactional sexual experiences. Punter belief and assertion that the escort is genuinely turned on in a way that approaches his experiences based on preference is usually a suspension of reality. But then fantasy figures prominently so that’s OK. The important thing to consider is that metaphorically at least one if not both of you has his hand tied behind his back. What could be more natural than to desire that one’s partner is authentically turned on and that the authenticity could be guaranteed by a standard objective monetary reward? However what we want and think rigidly is essential may get in our way. You may also discover that simply conveying you really appreciate, without potentially deal-breaking insistence, an orgasm that he possibly but not inevitably will have accessed when with you won’t drastically reduce the worth of a collective of the hiring experiences over time. ...what. Luv2play 1
SirBillybob Posted June 15 Posted June 15 (edited) On 6/4/2025 at 8:10 PM, hungry4darkmeat said: Very well said, although there are many of us who get off om getting others off and that’s perfectly okay. I would add that I’ve found that letting providers know what im looking for specifically and that i tip handsomely for good service usually means we can skip the up charge and ensure that i get what I’m looking for. This is particularly good practice when rehiring providers repeatedly as youll develop an understanding and they’ll be motivated to make the client happy since a happy client is a return client. Yes, I suppose it can seem, appear that his orgasms are as subjectively pleasurable as when he is having nontransactional off-the-clock sex that is optimal for him. The mutual benefit is anchored. I prefer to convey no preference for what transpires yet am frequently surprised by the breadth of what occurs. Simply put, something like “whatever happens over the next hour I’m pretty sure I’ll really like it”. The unpredictability is interesting, my arousal is a blend of internal and external locus of control because I could get off without the presence of a hire, and my sense is that being a repeat client without strong predetermined expectations enhances my client value. I don’t much link money quantity in absolute or contingency terms (the latter your perfectly sound playbook) with the typical sexual response elements for which other clients may grease the wheels monetarily. I certainly don’t harbour the notion that I’m a major source of the erotic ingredients that promote his ejaculation if and when that occurs, but I can grasp the importance of that client fantasy. Who doesn’t want to feel sexy where possible? Mutual orgasm is a desirable conventional goal in nontransactional contexts and understandably something that most wish to replicate. I cannot supply solid evidence for my belief that any upsell offer made by the sex worker derives from what clients have taught him they assume is linked to the value of orgasm. Yet the unique challenges of sex worker orgasm don’t eliminate that exchange trend. His conventional sexual partners will similarly also tend to view it as something they are deserving of. However, my particular needs are not set up in such a way as to reinforce it. Most importantly, I also find it emancipating to not be distracted during sex by evaluating the degree to which predetermined expectancies inextricably linked to my billfold are being met. I’m fairly convinced that monitoring in this way is ubiquitous in the hiring world and the concrete aspects of male genital function really push this tendency. Edited June 15 by SirBillybob pubic_assistance 1
pubic_assistance Posted June 15 Posted June 15 On 5/22/2025 at 3:29 AM, cumconnoiseur said: Is it a foregone conclusion or expectation (in his perspective) that he's cumming for me at the end of that hour? It is NOT. That is definitely something you need to request and I would recommend you include a photo of yourself when you make that request. marylander1940 1
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