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Do you ever feel like you’re a widget on an assembly line with popular providers and their schedules?  Or with more experienced escorts, who have likely seen every situation, fielded every request, and are familiar with every scene, just a variable inserted in a formula, or a play in a playbook, or a fill-in-the-blank BFE?

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9 hours ago, Ali Gator said:

I wonder if they feel like the widget on the assembly line with clients who book providers regularly? 

When I was escorting in the late 90s, I had so many regulars that I saw.  Which was great, as you knew what you were in for in advance...but it was also awful, as you knew what you were in for in advance.  

A couple of guys stand out as being memorable because they always wanted exactly the same experience, over and over and over.  And one guy in particular, I saw him every other Tuesday....and my close friend saw him on the other Tuesdays that I was not there and they did exactly that same thing with him.  Arrival at my place 10 minutes before he was supposed to be, 20 minutes of him taking an enormous poo and getting douche water all over my bath, bad role playing that I was a cop pulling him over for going to fast in his 'brand new red convertible with temporary tags', followed by 'forcing' him to go down on me (he was shockingly bad at that....it felt like he had two full sets of teeth), followed by 'forcing' him to take this giant cheap dildo that he just happened to have in his bag.  Then me inside of him for about 15 seconds until he blew.  50/50 chance there would be poo on the condom.  That all happened in the course of 15 or 20 minutes, then started the agonizing 15 minutes of small talk about his life started, where I oscillated between boredom with the situation and sadness for him. He always ended the encounter by paying the fee plus a $4 tip.  Like clockwork, $204.  I always wondered why.

30 years later, he is one of the guys that I still think about, though, and wonder if he ever did get to live his life or if he is still a gay guy trapped in a heterosexual marriage, dreaming of someday owning a convertible.  

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1 hour ago, haring222 said:

When I was escorting in the late 90s, I had so many regulars that I saw.  Which was great, as you knew what you were in for in advance...but it was also awful, as you knew what you were in for in advance.  

A couple of guys stand out as being memorable because they always wanted exactly the same experience, over and over and over.  And one guy in particular, I saw him every other Tuesday....and my close friend saw him on the other Tuesdays that I was not there and they did exactly that same thing with him.  Arrival at my place 10 minutes before he was supposed to be, 20 minutes of him taking an enormous poo and getting douche water all over my bath, bad role playing that I was a cop pulling him over for going to fast in his 'brand new red convertible with temporary tags', followed by 'forcing' him to go down on me (he was shockingly bad at that....it felt like he had two full sets of teeth), followed by 'forcing' him to take this giant cheap dildo that he just happened to have in his bag.  Then me inside of him for about 15 seconds until he blew.  50/50 chance there would be poo on the condom.  That all happened in the course of 15 or 20 minutes, then started the agonizing 15 minutes of small talk about his life started, where I oscillated between boredom with the situation and sadness for him. He always ended the encounter by paying the fee plus a $4 tip.  Like clockwork, $204.  I always wondered why.

30 years later, he is one of the guys that I still think about, though, and wonder if he ever did get to live his life or if he is still a gay guy trapped in a heterosexual marriage, dreaming of someday owning a convertible.  

If you ever want to feel depressed, read this. This highlights just how detached and numbing regular experiences can become. I hope my regulars think fondly of me, as I do of them.

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9 hours ago, haring222 said:

When I was escorting in the late 90s, I had so many regulars that I saw.  Which was great, as you knew what you were in for in advance...but it was also awful, as you knew what you were in for in advance.  

A couple of guys stand out as being memorable because they always wanted exactly the same experience, over and over and over.  And one guy in particular, I saw him every other Tuesday....and my close friend saw him on the other Tuesdays that I was not there and they did exactly that same thing with him.  Arrival at my place 10 minutes before he was supposed to be, 20 minutes of him taking an enormous poo and getting douche water all over my bath, bad role playing that I was a cop pulling him over for going to fast in his 'brand new red convertible with temporary tags', followed by 'forcing' him to go down on me (he was shockingly bad at that....it felt like he had two full sets of teeth), followed by 'forcing' him to take this giant cheap dildo that he just happened to have in his bag.  Then me inside of him for about 15 seconds until he blew.  50/50 chance there would be poo on the condom.  That all happened in the course of 15 or 20 minutes, then started the agonizing 15 minutes of small talk about his life started, where I oscillated between boredom with the situation and sadness for him. He always ended the encounter by paying the fee plus a $4 tip.  Like clockwork, $204.  I always wondered why.

30 years later, he is one of the guys that I still think about, though, and wonder if he ever did get to live his life or if he is still a gay guy trapped in a heterosexual marriage, dreaming of someday owning a convertible.  

A truly hilarious read, Haring!  Thank you for posting this.  I imagine some clients are ... just not worth having.  The $4 tip on the $200 fee, frankly, is insulting.  If I were the escort, I would have fired this client after 2 sessions.   I admire you for putting up with him so long.  It says a lot about your patience and skills dealing with a situation like this.

It shows why some clients really NEED escorts.  No regular date or boyfriend would put up with this guy.

But it made me think.  Do my regulars, there are about 4-5 of them at any time, think of me as boring?  They always seem happy to see me, but it could be an act.  I generally like starting off with a sensual massage followed by a play session.  It varies a bit from escort to escort depending on their personality and skills.  But still, am I too predictable?  Your post, in addition to being hilarious, encourages me to change things around a bit.

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It's depressing to dwell on what goes on in an escort's head about our sessions.  I'm fairly ugly, have always been, and now I'm old . . . and still fairly ugly.  I assume that the escorts I meet agree with me on those points.   As a result, I should be happy to be treated as another widget on the escort's assembly line as opposed to being treated as the old, ugly widget that I am.  But what I really want, and what I most look for, is an escort who (if I don't think about it too much) can make me feel NOT like a widget or at least feel like a favorite or interesting widget.   I know he's there only for the money, but having met clients in my line of work only for the money, I still had clients I enjoyed working with apart from the money I earned.  If I get that from an escort, I'm a happy man.  

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4 hours ago, BaronArtz said:

Do my regulars, there are about 4-5 of them at any time, think of me as boring?  They always seem happy to see me, but it could be an act.  I generally like starting off with a sensual massage followed by a play session.  It varies a bit from escort to escort depending on their personality and skills.  But still, am I too predictable?  Your post, in addition to being hilarious, encourages me to change things around a bit.

Maybe I have a finely tuned bullshit detector, but I can usually tell if someone is genuine in their reaction to me. I tend to have more masseurs who are regulars than escorts. This may sound egocentric, but I'm attractive, in good shape for my age, and genuinely treat all providers respectfully and kindly. I'm also hilarious, which helps. 

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3 hours ago, jackcali said:

It's depressing to dwell on what goes on in an escort's head about our sessions.  I'm fairly ugly, have always been, and now I'm old . . . and still fairly ugly.

I've become friendly with a few providers, and the good ones care about giving their clients a good experience. They're not super interested in appearance. Instead, they want to be treated respectfully and have their clients be hygienic. I have no idea what you look like but gay male beauty standards are insane, so you may be more attractive than you think. Either way, I doubt the provider is focusing on your looks. 

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6 hours ago, BaronArtz said:

A truly hilarious read, Haring!  Thank you for posting this.  I imagine some clients are ... just not worth having.  The $4 tip on the $200 fee, frankly, is insulting.  If I were the escort, I would have fired this client after 2 sessions.   I admire you for putting up with him so long.  It says a lot about your patience and skills dealing with a situation like this.

It shows why some clients really NEED escorts.  No regular date or boyfriend would put up with this guy.

But it made me think.  Do my regulars, there are about 4-5 of them at any time, think of me as boring?  They always seem happy to see me, but it could be an act.  I generally like starting off with a sensual massage followed by a play session.  It varies a bit from escort to escort depending on their personality and skills.  But still, am I too predictable?  Your post, in addition to being hilarious, encourages me to change things around a bit.

Hilarious? I didn’t find it hilarious at all. In fact, in my opinion, it comes across as having a lot of disgust and contempt for the client. The tone feels emotionally detached, as if the situation is more about judgment than understanding. It paints a bleak picture of something repetitive and dehumanizing. It’s the kind of response from a provider that would make a skeptical client pause and rethink their choice to hire. If it ever gets that awful, then stop seeing the client.

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2 hours ago, BrooklynIrish said:

I have no idea what you look like but gay male beauty standards are insane, so you may be more attractive than you think.

Thank you for your very kind words.  I admit I may be exaggerating my ugliness.  After all, I often handle newborn babies without them bursting into tears and I don't believe that clocks (back when those existed) ever stopped just because I looked at them.  I have many admirable qualities, but being appealing to the eye has never been one of them, and that is something I knew well before I knew I was gay.  

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On 4/7/2025 at 4:19 PM, DrownedBoy said:

That's why I'm don't hire "popular providers."

 

One of my few bad hires was an escort, now retired, who was absolutely revered and fawned over on the predecessor to Company of Men. At the time, I didn't publicly comment on him for fear the townsfolk would run me out with pitchforks.

The two escorts who made me feel processed through the assembly line were similarly revered. That's why I don't base hiring decisions solely on their reputation among members. That said, we no longer have very many escorts who are similarly revered. The one who comes to mind delivers a stellar experience and deserves the compliments he receives. 

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16 hours ago, BrooklynIrish said:

Maybe I have a finely tuned bullshit detector, but I can usually tell if someone is genuine in their reaction to me. I tend to have more masseurs who are regulars than escorts. This may sound egocentric, but I'm attractive, in good shape for my age, and genuinely treat all providers respectfully and kindly. I'm also hilarious, which helps. 

That is how I feel about my regular masseurs.  I book ahead of time, I show up on time, always freshly showered with a pleasant and upbeat attitude.  I do tip well although not extravagantly  I am not in the greatest shape anymore but no one has commented on that.  I do send a text afterwards thanking them.  I do regularly have lunch with my favorite guy, off the clock,  Some of the guys told me they are glad to have me in their life.  If I am a widget to them, I don't feel it.  But then, who really knows?

I have had my share of rote performers but if that happens there is no second appointment with them.  It is a rare occurrence though.  As others have mentioned, I do stay away from 'popular' guys and from travelers.  They tend to pack in as many appointments as they can in any given day, possibly causing the quality of the service to suffer.

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Never felt that way during an escort appointment, but certainly during Massage appointments where there was no talking, which is fine, my mind would wander far far away some times.  The good thing about Massage is that you can do it on Auto Pilot for most of the body and then bring yourself back to earth for any area that needs focused attention.  Escorting, I don't know, it's so intimate, to me any way, I can't see how someone could do that on auto-pilot, but it sounds as if they sometimes do.

 

A therapist told me he fell asleep during three separate in-person sessions! (Not the same day).

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17 hours ago, rvwnsd said:

 

One of my few bad hires was an escort, now retired, who was absolutely revered and fawned over on the predecessor to Company of Men. At the time, I didn't publicly comment on him for fear the townsfolk would run me out with pitchforks.

The two escorts who made me feel processed through the assembly line were similarly revered. That's why I don't base hiring decisions solely on their reputation among members. That said, we no longer have very many escorts who are similarly revered. The one who comes to mind delivers a stellar experience and deserves the compliments he receives. 

I have a feeling I know who you’re referring to.   He ended up being the biggest jerk I’ve ever known.  Screwed me over big time at the 2019 Palm Springs gathering.   No need to identify the jerk for fear of those pitchforks you reference. 

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On 4/6/2025 at 11:00 PM, FaustOust said:

Do you ever feel like you’re a widget on an assembly line with popular providers and their schedules?  Or with more experienced escorts, who have likely seen every situation, fielded every request, and are familiar with every scene, just a variable inserted in a formula, or a play in a playbook, or a fill-in-the-blank BFE?

I've felt like that in the waiting room at my therapist's.

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When I’ve booked several massages from the same provider over a period of time I’ve noticed that the sequence of strokes/events is the same every time so that it becomes predictable.  I suspect that these providers have a set routine that they go through and it’s the same for every client.  My favorite current provider varies what he does so I never know what’s going to happen, just that it’s going to be hot.

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20 hours ago, Nightowl said:

When I’ve booked several massages from the same provider over a period of time I’ve noticed that the sequence of strokes/events is the same every time so that it becomes predictable.  I suspect that these providers have a set routine that they go through and it’s the same for every client.  My favorite current provider varies what he does so I never know what’s going to happen, just that it’s going to be hot.

I have NO knowledge of massage except as a recipient, but I imagine that a masseur has a routine for what's included in their therapeutic massage (or the therapeutic portion of their massage).  After all, he does have a whole body to cover and doesn't want to miss an area.   Of course, if you only care about the extras and not the massage, I can think of other solutions. 

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1 hour ago, jackcali said:

I have NO knowledge of massage except as a recipient, but I imagine that a masseur has a routine for what's included in their therapeutic massage (or the therapeutic portion of their massage).  After all, he does have a whole body to cover and doesn't want to miss an area.   Of course, if you only care about the extras and not the massage, I can think of other solutions. 

I should have been more specific, I guess.  In the cases I was describing, even the sensual elements were predictable.  I definitely agree and understand that the therapeutic aspects have to be somewhat routine so that everything is covered.

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