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That makes me happy to hear....so many of those guys have so many issues as they go forward with life. If you care to, let him know a guy in Chicago remains a fan 🙂

Honestly, if I only have a few minutes to, um...relax myself...I watch the video of Zeb Atlas and Johnny Rapid as the boy scout. No idea why it gets me so steamed up. I hope that Zeb is enjoying his life these days and looks back on all of those awesome scenes fondly.

I ha so forgotten about 'Zsolt, the Hungarian"...he was such a sweet guy. For a minute he was working with another younger Hungarian guy who was also a waiter at a local diner...I still think about that encounter 20 years later.

Back when I was escorting (in the lates 90s, at the dawn of the internet age and start of rentboy.com), I had a thing called the two strike rule. I would see a client, they would generally enjoy it...if they would want to see me again I could not be available one time, but if I were not available on the second time he reached out the fellows interest would ease off and I would likely never get another phone call. It did not matter if I had been rocking that guys world for a year...I say no twice in a row they move on to another guy. This became more and more of an issue as my schedule filled up with clients and with college. This really bothered me, and I was trying all sorts of ways to keep track of schedules and make sure I was available or spring enticing tales of what collegiate activities made me unavailable....but I also started to realize that I was basically having relationships with some of these guys, and that was much more mentally exhausting (and honestly less sexually exciting) than getting new fellows. I had one guy who was super nice and paid well, but was a heavy smoker and wanted the same ridiculous scenario of me being a cop and pulling him over for speeding, forcing him to bend over for me. I was 6'2" and 180 lbs in a Northwestern sweatshirt, so why any of that made sense was beyond me. Each time it would end with him telling me he forgot his wallet in the car and asking me to walk out with him, so he could show me whatever car he was driving on loan from the dealership he worked out and I had to oooh and aww over it. He was the first one that I had to turn down twoice and did not ever call again, which was a financial sadness but a glorious mental relief. In today's world, now that I am the one shelling out the cash, I totally see the other side. A few touring escorts have gone the extra mile and allow you to use Calendly to book an appointment, which is handy but it also makes you think 'oh, he has seven slots available, is he going to see six guys before me if I pick the 10PM time?' which is kind of gross.

Here in Chicago, I have sat next to him at the counter in my local diner three or four times. He is not my type at all...that said, very handsome and friendly with the wait staff, which is a great sign. He has a hand tattoo, which I understand is popular but is not my cup of tea. After the last time, I looked up some of his video's to see how talented he is and was impressed.

There is something about Sean Austin...great accent, nice butt, but those fake looking lips? I used to always think about hiring him, but it gives me pause.

This is only my opinion, but it seems only fans has really cut back on the number of adult film stars who are escorts. It used to be I'd constantly run across notable performers who escorted...now they are all making 10x the money producing model generated content. Has anyone else noticed this?

Planning a trip to London in a few weeks and I am hoping this place is up and running. The website domain seems to be for sale, which seems like a bad sign. Does anyone have a contact phone number? h! David

In case you are looking at airbnb spaces I have a beautifully located (a 6 minute walk to the gay strip) space that is very escort friendly. Discount for forum folks who send me a note :-) I am going to be targeting the space for use by escorts. https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/49290332?guests=1&adults=1&s=67&unique_share_id=4c3f0f3a-c30e-4690-bd07-2f1967211711

Alrighty, I took all of the feedback to heart and have procured an adjoining one bedroom flat to put up on Airbnb. It’s going to be a fully private listing and will come with a very study bed. I’m planning on also offering up the ability for it to include a massage table / massage supplies for traveling masseurs. It’s perfectly located at Racine and Addison in chicago and is also accessed from a ground level vestibule, eliminating chance encounters with other building residents in the stairs. Anyone on here want to market it for me to the escort / masseur community?

Reading that the fellow took off after 13.5 years and with you doing so very much for him is just so very weird. That is such a long time to be with a person, so to just pack up and go without a discussion blows my mind. I am so sorry to hear that. I was an escort in my early 20s and formed such close attachments to all of the guys I saw often (and recently going to a memorial service for one of them, which was so sad) that it blows my mind thinking about this. Even the clients that I decided to part ways with got a graciously done exit.

That would be an interesting duo...there is like a foot in height difference between them. From what I have seen, Austin Wolf has a rather nice apartment for New York standards. Gabriel is literally some of the best canoodling that I have ever experienced and he seems like an honestly nice guy. Though he is a bit long in the tooth to be claiming under 30 :-)

I always put escorts in the second floor flat, which was private and fully contained (and rather nice...it was supposed to be my private area). I think I had a few escorts slip in, though, under the radar renting other rooms in shared areas. Which would be super weird as a client. Had they asked / not assumed I was a prude I would have set them up with a different spot

By the day, just like an airbnb, and possibly using the airbnb platform to handle the reservations. I would not want local guys to use it.

Hello fellows. Question. I was an old pro at the airbnb game (like, hosted three different listings for years and years in an awesome flat...heres an old ad https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1141045?s=67&unique_share_id=99104310-d8ba-4f68-a4fd-d667642c1e28 ) until late last year when I decided sort of abruptly to simplify life and move out of my mess. I was also as escort in the late 90s and early 2000s and find everything to do with escorts and the industry to be fascinating. I am returning to the gay neighborhood to an awesomely located apartment and I am debating putting the second bedroom on airbnb post pandemic and after my renovation wraps up. I will admit that my life has become a bit boring and I need some distractions. Here is the question...#1, if I fitted this out and offered up access to amenities that massage industry folks might appreciate (I could keep some bottles of massage stuff on hand along with a table and linens and structure the living room to work nicely for it to happen) do you think traveling guys might be interested. #2, would the fact that it is a shared space weird providers out (though I'd sort of be in the back of the flat and would not be present when they are entertaining and likely often be at my weekend house and invisible to their clients). #3, I could market it towards escorts and tacitly turn a blind eye to whatever they might do in their bedrooms and make sure to have a firm bed frame and extra sheets. TBH, I miss hosting but not the full time work involved and would love to get to meet industry guys and support their ability to bring joy to the world. I'm also a super big pervert in a harmless way, so this would all really be fun to be around. I had a couple of guys who rented my stand alone airbnb (Gabriel Cross was there several times) and it was totally fun to be industry adjacent.

I'll toss in my two cents. For background, I was a relatively successful escort in the late 90s while in college (averaging 6.2 meetings per week at a minimum of $200 per, which was high back then) and now have my own business, where I am the fellow that often brings in the new business. If the problem is not enough inquiries to begin with, you need to change up the way you are marketing yourself. I did not look at your adverts, but things like new pictures or a different approach to your verbiage might be in order. A lot of clients do some research, so try to cross pollinate your approach...you should try to have a social media presence on twitter that makes you seem interesting and hints at your personality. Theres also the dynamic of bringing to the market something fresh or unique....if your market is lacking in some arena put on the persona that will fill it. Universally, presenting an up-beat attitude about how much you love what you do and how much goodness you bring to the table will get people interested. Not to come across as a judgement, it would be better if your communications on here really made you seem sincere and nice and were not at all polarizing. Right now they are going a little bit, well, not friendly and expressing whatever you feel to other members won't help you to snag new clients when they go poking around on here. If the problem is client retention, I had a method that worked beautifully and took just a bit of extra work. I kept copious notes about the interactions I had with potential clients before they booked me and made even more intense notes about the experience directly after the session. If they mentioned they were in town for a gasket convention, I'd put a note in my day-planner (this was the 90s) to follow up with the fellow about a month before the convention the following year. You'd be shocked at how well that worked and how regularly many people travel. Same with pilots...this was before texting, but I had 7 or 8 pilots that knew they could send me a day and a flight number and I'd keep an eye on the airline timetable and be discretely waiting int he hotel lobby when they got there....they did not even have to think about it. Every client got their own unique number so they would get linked back into my notes....and every single detail about what we talked about / did sexually / any personal info went into it along with the anything I could glean about them. How much they paid, if they tipped, preferred lube...I wrote it all down. If I wanted to pursue them, I'd try to find a way to weave my way back into their lives. This was also back in the days of the aol chatrooms, so it was relatively easy to see them online and send a DM about whatever...ie, 'it was so awesome to meet you last month. I can't stop thinking about using the purple dildo on you while you sang the national anthem; that was so incredibly hot'. If it was actually someone that I enjoyed meeting or within easy proximity I'd also give them a 10 or 20% discount, banking that the'd likely tip me and it would all even out. Over the 4 years I had maybe 1200 different clients and the notes I kept about them filled 6 moleskin notebooks and a couple of excel spreadsheets to be able to cross reference people. Even to this day I can flip into them and instantly know who almost all of these guys were, which is sort of fun. If my reaching out to them led to another session (or they reached back out to me at a later date) I could totally know exactly what they were looking for and it made the likelihood of them flaking drop to nearly zero....as they would be impressed that I could 'remember' all of these details and must have had such a personal connection. One of my best clients was this mildly creepy older fellow who I could tell was sad. I went to his single family house in a posh city neighborhood and managed to see a funeral card sitting out on his nightstand from (what I assumed was) his wife dying 10 months prior. I did my thing sexually but also rubbed his back and chatted a bit about how great his old stone house was....and noticed he had a bag of those nasty werthers originals on his hall table when I left. I sent him a follow up email the next day (you should always do that, and always mention something nice that you connected with (even if you have to make it up...and it can never ever seem like a form note) which did not get returned....I had a feeling that whatever we did was probably fun for the moment, but may have made him even more sad after. Five or six weeks later I dropped a bag of those candies into his mail slot with a totally non incriminating PG note from me that said I had taken one without asking and wanted to replenish his stockpile and reiterated how much I enjoyed our conversation and also sent a email letting him know there was a little something that I left, allowing my contact info to be fresh in his inbox.. I knew that that would probably hit him at a vulnerable time and it would get me a repeat visit, which it totally did. We never did talk about really anything at all in his personal life but he turned into an awesome 4 year client and it only ended when he finally decided to move away...and the last time I saw him he gave me this hand-knotted rug that I had complimented early on in knowing him, so he was obviously paying attention. I still keep it in my dressing room and think of him each time I go in there. I think I identified 7 or 8 people during my time that I wanted as long term people and managed to turn 4 of them into real money makers. I was also never a clock watcher, within reason, once you got me there you had me. My thought was that the actual time spent was a lot smaller than the time I spent in dealing with inquiries and travel time....so what's another 30 or 60 minutes if it leads to consistent work. I'd always sort of read the room, let the guy know that the sessions started when clothes came off, hang out and chat or whatever until they were comfy and really ready to go. And the post fucking cuddle time is super important to some folks, so just hanging out in bed after its all done can be a really pleasing memory for the fellow to have of you. I did have one fellow who I saw weekly that wanted to and was able to bottom for over an hour and seemed to have limitless stamina. It was impressive, as my penis is on the larger side. So I learned that at about the 50 minute mark I'd totally fake an orgasm (the entire pulsing dick / pretending that I just couldn't hold it back) and I'd sort of keep myself in him and pant for a minute....and follow up with 'Man, I can't believe you ass took me over the edge like that, lets get you off before my dick goes down' and he would happily beat himself off with no help from me. He never did seem to realize this was an act and told me on many occasions that I was the only guy who had ever satisfied him. The other key is marketing 101....one callback is great, but if you can get someone to see you for a third time, you're part of their 'routine' and it's almost a sure bet they will keep calling you....and the more that you can personalize your services the more likely it is it will lead to good things. That said, emotionally for an escort repeat clients can have their own issues. I had several that I just did not like and having sex with them was a completely not enjoyable experience. I keep thinking I should write some sort of escort advice blog or something. I really did approach is as a career when I did it. I was not by any means the hottest guy around or the best in bed, but my attention to detail and working out a good method to it all really helped me to find success.

I lived in a place that was bonkers. Four floors, almost 7500 square feet of rambling old building in the boystown area of Chicago. I had my office in there with three people working, a few airbnb units, a giant room called the hoarder basement (full of, well, crap) and just heaving with stuff. It got to the point where the house was ruling my life and making me nuts. I bought a 700 square foot condo and gave myself 6 months to purge. It was awful...literally, moving trucks coming every week taking stuff to modern furniture dealers / donations / an auction house. And I discovered that you can pretty much put anything on the free section of craigslist and someone will come and take it (like a harpsichord that was sitting under a radiator that blew a valve). Anyway, a year later I can say it was the best decision ever and out of thousands of objects that left my life I think I have missed only one or two things. So keep the faith and don't get bogged down in the details. I took a minute to take pictures before it all got ripped apart and pictures of things that left that made me pause and I have enjoyed scrolling past all of those things in my phone.

This is ridiculous....I am preplanning for a trip to Thailand (it was going to be this year, hopefully it can be next year) and as an easily confused and embarrassed fellow, the fact that it's so very foreign is exciting but makes me nervous. When you go into a massage place...what is the normal protocal. I keep looking at these websites and they show massage tables draped with crap / towels/ etc...what in the world are you supposed to do with all of this? I get that you're probably supposed to drape the towel over you? I am hoping some of you guys have had experience with this! Int he states, you generally just climb under a sheet if it's a more legit place or flop on the table naked if it's less legitimate. Thanks for any advice! And if anyone wants a travel buddy, we should connect. David https://ninemenspa.com/photos-nine-spa-bangkok

Years ago (like early 200s) I had a few dates with this ridiculously cute server who worked at the Melrose diner. He was a Hungarian guy and honestly the nicest person and probably the best sex I ever had. Ironically, he lived at 420 Melrose in a building that I ended up redesigning the lobby and common areas for....and is pent a good amount of the project trying to remember why I had been in there before. He was friends with and introduced me to Zsolt, who was a masseur but also an escort, going by 'Zsolt the Hungarian'. I remember thinking 'woah' back then when I met him, even though he was not my type at all.

@asianmusclebttm Holy moly, I saw your review on the page and got sucked into at least 20 minutes of looking at your pictures on rentmen. I actually just hopped on here with the intent of putting up a posting of how ridiculously handsome and nice you seem...and it looks as though I am late to that party. You are a handsome looking fellow, and I am hoping this COVID thing calms down so I Can do a weekend in Palm Springs this summer and I can see you in person. Literally, your are now in my 'top ten sexy guys of all time' list :-)

If you're going to be asking for a major repair or credit...make sure that you have a couple of concurring opinions. And make sure that these are clearly sent to the listing broker, who will now have the responsibility (at least in Illinois) to let other potential buyers know that they have seen these reports. It's harder to argue if you present it as 'here is what the home inspection said, so we brought in a seismic engineer. We also brought in another seismic engineer to get their opinion, and they all agree about this issue'

Hey chaps! Even with the pandemic on the horizon (!), the winter grey in Chicago is making me nuts. I want to use some miles and get away for a weekend someplace warm. Any recommendations for a solo traveler? Does not have to be a beach, just someplace warm (and maybe one that has a non gross men only sauna to visit) that is easy to get to an airport. I generally do LA / palm springs and was just in Miami...maybe something historical like Savannah? Thanks for any ideas!

So I live a few blocks over from Sir Spa....and I will stress that it is 100% aboveboard with no hanky panky going on. There used to be some stuff going on in the locker room (which is super nice) but they sort of changed the attendant situation in there to stop it from happening. Which was good. The entire experience is nice and the guy I go to (Kiam) is really good.

Reading all of your opinions, made me realize a couple of things... #1, I assumed that the most of the fellows on here who complained about escorts 'ghosting' them had done something to annoy the escort or the escort assumed it was a time waste. I now totally realize that I was wrong with that. #2, I never thought about it from the escort's opinion or viewpoint...that going to a wedding might be nerve wracking and that some folks would rather just quietly play hide the pickle instead of making small talk. #3, someone should really put together a 'real' escort service. Reasonable rates for an attractive, personable, appropriate person to take with you if you are dateless. No naughty times. But again, I might be the only person who would be into that :-) #4, youngsters should realize that it's better to just share the reality. If this guy had said that he was nervous, or got a better offer, or had whatever issue and was not going to go it would have been annoying but just a fact. This disappearing into Narnia thing he did was just...rude. #5, I found out that the bride spent over $200 grand on a wedding for 80 people. I wish she had just written me a check for $2500. Why in the world do people do that!

So I had to go to a tedious wedding over the weekend in Chicago (well, lovely and so well thought out, but weddings are not my thing) and I reached out to an escort to actually be my date. Nice young guy, well reviewed. I let him know it was really an escort situation, no one on one time was required....and when I found out he did not have an appropriate dark suit offered to pick up the cost for that. We had three days of good back and forth texting, initiated by him as I am not the type to take folks time. I was really looking forward to it, and the day we were to go and grab an outfit for him...nothing. No responses to my reaching out. And the next day I ended up going to the wedding alone, which was sucky. And reached out again to see if I had somehow done something wrong. The guy did research on me, read a profile on me that was in the new york times and researched my company and made some sincere compliments about me being under 40 and moderately successful. I play with an open book and just assume others to do the same, so this 'ghosting' really made me sad. Does anyone have an idea why folks do this? I can deal with someone getting a better offer from some other guy or whatever, but to just not answer is so weird to me.