Protecting the Product (Escorts)

[sky]

I am guessing we all take our providers for granted the ones we see regularly.  Though when we aren't with them we don't always know what they are dealing with.   How can we as clients help insure their safety?  My regular escort says he's been in some precarious situations where he has feared for his life.  

[Callas]

I don’t take my favorites for granted. 
But life is hard, all I can do is seeing them regularly 😉

If they reach out to me for help non-materially, i’ll def try.

[soloyo215]

It's not an easy thing to care only within the confines of the scope of the type of relationships that we have with providers. It is high risk work and we cannot interfere with how they do it.

I don't take them for granted, and I respect boundaries, but I don't think it's my place to get into their personal lives. That said, if they reach out to me for help (real help, not that they want money) I'd be decent and help.

I've helped strangers, some of them thankless, out of being a decent human being, and I've helped fuck buddies I've had, so why not helping a provider that I know (and had good times with).

[SirBillybob]

7 hours ago, sky said:

I am guessing we all take our providers for granted the ones we see regularly.  Though when we aren't with them we don't always know what they are dealing with.   How can we as clients help insure their safety?  My regular escort says he's been in some precarious situations where he has feared for his life.  

If he debriefed with you it opened the possibility of covering and reviewing ways to mitigate risk, including strategies in which you’d have no concrete role. It would be impractical to be his behind-scenes wingman documenting his date details in the same way that anyone would share data with a trusted person before meeting a stranger in private, or to be his bodyguard. Absent a prurient motive, such magnanimity could get very tired very quickly. Financial compensation commensurate with occupational risk is baked into fees and he has the prerogative to rest on those earnings while bypassing any typical 🚩 sitch.

Edited March 3 by SirBillybob

[LookingAround]

I appreciate the beneficent spirit and intent of this post. However I have a slight contrarian view.
1) May I suggest not referring to other humans as "product" but rather as people? It gets into the all too often spirit on this board of thinking of escorts as merchandise and treating them accordingly. I know that wasn't your intent but nevertheless. 
2) I dare say most escorts can take care of themselves far better than most clients who most often are older and candidly are more vulnerable. 
Anyway just a cautionary $.02. 

[DznNYC]

I don’t get the sense that my regulars are aware I also see other clients.  🤣

Or if they know, they prefer to pretend they don’t.  

[SirBillybob]

I am a person that is the product of my parents’ union. 

[rvwnsd]

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Protecting the Product (Escorts)

I don't view escorts as being products. 

9 hours ago, sky said:

I am guessing we all take our providers for granted the ones we see regularly...

Won't attempt to speak for others, but I don't take escorts and masseurs for granted. 

10 hours ago, sky said:

Though when we aren't with them we don't always know what they are dealing with.   How can we as clients help insure their safety?

Unfortunately, we can't ensure anyone's safety when they are not with us. The best we can do is ensure we provide a safe place for providers while they are with us.

[jackcali]

34 minutes ago, DamizzonNYC said:

I don’t get the sense that my regulars are aware I also see other clients.  🤣

Or if they know, they prefer to pretend they don’t.  

I think they know but pretend they don't.  The value of the experience for me is indulging in the fiction (and I know it's a fiction) that if I'm not the only client I'm at least a special and treasured client.  The more I think about other clients, the harder it is to indulge in that fiction.  When a provider tells me he can see me between 4 and 6pm because he has clients before and after then or when a provider says he can't cum in our session because he has three more clients that day, the fantasy is broken and I lose all interest in hiring him.

[SirBillybob]

1 hour ago, jackcali said:

When a provider tells me he can see me between 4 and 6pm because he has clients before and after then or when a provider says he can't cum in our session because he has three more clients that day, the fantasy is broken and I lose all interest in hiring him.

And that blank facial expression you get if you inquire as to whether the non-forthcumming ejaculatory product is due to erectile reliability refractory periods, not having requested or been offered the cum lottery entry that day, or not winning a $ bidding war. To save his face in such a precarious situation, best not to ask. Funny thing is, I’m only asking if, not why, in order to prepare, as I don’t up-pay or down-pay based on his orgasm. 

Edited March 3 by SirBillybob

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

3 hours ago, LookingAround said:

I appreciate the beneficent spirit and intent of this post. However I have a slight contrarian view.
1) May I suggest not referring to other humans as "product" but rather as people? It gets into the all too often spirit on this board of thinking of escorts as merchandise and treating them accordingly. I know that wasn't your intent but nevertheless. 
2) I dare say most escorts can take care of themselves far better than most clients who most often are older and candidly are more vulnerable. 
Anyway just a cautionary $.02. 

This reply needs to be bronzed like baby shoes 👍

[FaustOust]

3 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

I am a person that is the product of my parents’ union. 

“Product of a union” is an idiom that applies to all people and is rarely used in every day speech in reference to persons. In fact you rarely see it in obituaries anymore.  Also like the idiom “product of a broken home,” product in that case means that which was produced as a result of.   In this case, product means a thing that is bought and sold — a commodity.  But outside of these idioms,  a person likely is never referred to as a “product” without it be demeaning.

[SirBillybob]

1 hour ago, FaustOust said:

“Product of a union” is an idiom that applies to all people and is rarely used in every day speech in reference to persons. In fact you rarely see it in obituaries anymore.  Also like the idiom “product of a broken home,” product in that case means that which was produced as a result of.   In this case, product means a thing that is bought and sold — a commodity.  But outside of these idioms,  a person likely is never referred to as a “product” without it be demeaning.

Good grief. Besides which “product of a union” is not an idiom, the topic heading merely colloquially referenced a circumscribed collective entity and the intent was empathic attunement regarding hazards. A neutral term, not unlike for example, “How challenging it can be to select from the inventory of outstanding chaps here in the bro-thel today”, the context not geared to disrespect or to undermining dignity.

Sure, you could substitute “array” for “inventory” so as not to step on fragile eggs. You could also say “lineup” and unearth somewhere a virtue-signalling objector. Sheesh.

Labelling me a “punter” could be derogatory in some people’s eyes, I suppose, but in my view I’m a punter generically before I’m a client specifically. Either term could put me in harm’s way depending on context. 

Edited March 3 by SirBillybob

[+ DERRIK]

Recognizing sex workers as a publicly recognized profession goes a log way to protect them.

• Note Sean Baker and Mickey Madison acknowledged them at the Oscars last night
• Sean Baker has been speaking publicly about them for years

 

[jeezifonly]

As a life-long “supervisor” in my work roles, I might be concerned about personal safety and well-being of workers on my team, off the clock, if they shared something specific about a personal matter or other job (gig) coming up, but never felt any action was mine to take. Same here - essentially a professional relationship, but with the nature of the interaction crossing into optional emotional attachment, which for some clients, inspires a need to protect the provider. Providers that appeal to me are never under 40 and my instinct to protect a fully-grown man is limited to family and close friends. Further personal investment works for some, it seems. 

[SirBillybob]

2 minutes ago, jeezifonly said:

As a life-long “supervisor” in my work roles, I might be concerned about personal safety and well-being of workers on my team, off the clock, if they shared something specific about a personal matter or other job (gig) coming up, but never felt any action was mine to take. Same here - essentially a professional relationship, but with the nature of the interaction crossing into optional emotional attachment, which for some clients, inspires a need to protect the provider. Providers that appeal to me are never under 40 and my instinct to protect a fully-grown man is limited to family and close friends. Further personal investment works for some, it seems. 

This reminds me to rigorously slap myself in the face whenever harbouring rescue-from-occupation theme fantasies with respect to escorts with whom I’d unrealistically wish to be romantically entangled. 😉

[FaustOust]

32 minutes ago, SirBillybob said:

not unlike for example, “How challenging it can be to select from the inventory of outstanding chaps here in the bro-thel today”,

You’re absolutely right.  It’s just like that.

[SirBillybob]

4 minutes ago, FaustOust said:

You’re absolutely right.  It’s just like that.

No Faustian bargain with cherry-picked rigidity.

Edited March 3 by SirBillybob

[big-n-tall]

5 hours ago, DamizzonNYC said:

I don’t get the sense that my regulars are aware I also see other clients.  🤣

Or if they know, they prefer to pretend they don’t.  

I can say the same thing about a few providers I met in the past.

[SirBillybob]

1 hour ago, DERRIK said:

Recognizing sex workers as a publicly recognized profession goes a log way to protect them.

• Note Sean Baker and Mickey Madison acknowledged them at the Oscars last night
• Sean Baker has been speaking publicly about them for years

 

It’s essential but unfortunately the next pit stop in the legitimacy chain tends to be the problematic Nordic model. Where in that film was the punter constituency not demonized, with central creepskie the antithesis of an officer and gentleman?

Edited March 3 by SirBillybob

[+ DrownedBoy]

In this economy, everyone is a product, and everyone has to sell themselves.

That's why they call us "resources" instead of people at large firms.

Providers are no different, and they deserve legal status in recognition.

[SirBillybob]

54 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

In this economy, everyone is a product, and everyone has to sell themselves.

That's why they call us "resources" instead of people at large firms.

Providers are no different, and they deserve legal status in recognition.

And most businesses providing resources and services have been traditionally found via some version of walking fingers. Both individuals and collectives are often their own promotional products. 

Edited March 3 by SirBillybob

[Archangel]

I check in regularly with my regular. Another provider I thought I had a connection with has turned out to be uninterested to the point of rude if a scheduling is on the books. So I don’t check in with him anymore. One of my first guys is no longer officially doing escorting but we still communicate via Snapchat occasionally. He says he’d visit for the weekend for a dirt cheap rate, but I don’t know if I’m interested in that dynamic anymore. 

[Archangel]

On 3/3/2025 at 6:03 PM, DrownedBoy said:

That's why they call us "resources" instead of people at large firms.

“Capital” too. And “liabilities.”

[+ Jamie21]

On 3/3/2025 at 3:37 PM, DamizzonNYC said:

I don’t get the sense that my regulars are aware I also see other clients.  🤣

Mine seem to be aware. I get asked ‘can I see you when you’re fresh?’.  I’m like a baguette at the bakery, best in the morning whilst still warm.