Hotels are wearing me out…does it take the fun out of touring for you?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

23 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

You just did. 🤨

" I did call prior to checkout time but the phone just rang off the hook"

Jared, your lack of self awareness is frightening sometimes.

You complain constantly about things that are fucked up because you're not doing it right...not because other people are fucked up.

You need to pay more attention to how normal people behave and follow that model.

First of all you spelled my name wrong…

2nd: you have a habit of berating me. You’d be the last person I’d take advice from. 
 

3rd don’t tell me how “normal” people behave. If you choose to take an adversarial approach and response to everything I say, that’s on you. But don’t try to denigrate my message just because you have a personal dislike for what I discuss.

4th: stop talking to me, please ✌️

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[+ azdr0710]

[Guest]

Bottom line: the hotel has a policy, you were unable to comply, you did not effectively  communicate your request for an exception to the policy (though you tried), and you were asked to leave. This outcome was not unreasonable and will reoccur in every hotel in every city you visit, so you’ll need to adjust. Yes—inconvenient, unpleasant, annoying—but also not a new phenomenon and universal. It’s just not worth the space it’s occupying in your head.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

48 minutes ago, Km411 said:

Bottom line: the hotel has a policy, you were unable to comply, you did not effectively  communicate your request for an exception to the policy (though you tried), and you were asked to leave. This outcome was not unreasonable and will reoccur in every hotel in every city you visit, so you’ll need to adjust. Yes—inconvenient, unpleasant, annoying—but also not a new phenomenon and universal. It’s just not worth the space it’s occupying in your head.

Okay well, if the hotel policy is more important than the guest’s requirements: What if I started just telling clients: I can’t host at hotels anymore, they’ll have to arrange that? Then what? I wonder how many people would be quick to make assertions. Because if someone isn’t regularly hosting at hotels, they don’t have any business trying to pull the moral code card like a couple other posters have. And I’m not talking about someone who’s just an occasional traveler. If someone hasn’t experienced it on a DAILY basis: checking in/out of hotels EVERY WEEK for 2 and 3 weeks straight while traveling: Shut up 🤫 

Because in the original situation: I could have stayed at the place I already had for free, but I got a hotel for the main purpose of taking the appointment. Even though I upgraded to the better room, in most cases I’m still doing so for the appointments. So I’m going out of my way to be inconvenienced: spending money to book a room, and having to leave at a time that may not suit me.

But like I said, if people feel I’m sooooooooo in the wrong for not liking 11 and 12 pm checkout times: Maybe I’ll just make sure my clients host or book the hotels instead, and they can deal with it. Period. I’m in a city now that I’ve had 4 clients last week: they all hosted. I only booked a hotel for 3 days for my own personal comfort, but I didn’t host clients in any.

Just goes to show though, some cities obligate the providers to always host to get business, where others tend to be more willing to host instead.

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[Jarrod_Uncut]

And let me say something else: it’s not just about checkout times: there’s many times clients want to request 12-1-2 pm meets. I generally have to decline those because I tell them, I can’t check into a hotel that early. And I mainly only host by appointment only. I’m not booking a room for two or 3 nights and waiting around for guys to show up. I book usually only 1 night at a time. IF the original client(s) shows up, and there’s other clients the following day, only then will I reserve another night.

 

So the people who are trying to debate with me about checkout times: open your mind a bit, it extends beyond that. Think about how many escorts and clients may be inconvenienced because they can’t check in until 3 or 4 p.m. And like I said, no matter what request you make: if the rooms aren’t ready, the client is going to be waiting outside, in the lobby, or taking the escort to lunch at hooters (true story) until the rooms are ready.

So @Km411 next time a client asks me to host a 1:00 p.m. appointment, I’m going to send them a screenshot of the hotel check in times, and say: “I can’t, I have to comply with the hotel policy”. You can’t come until 3. “Oh I can’t because…” I don’t care, it’s hotel policy ☝
 

Oh, you thought I was hosting at home? Can YOU host at home? No? Okay then…don’t assume. I may be traveling or have roommates/company, etc etc. 

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[Jarrod_Uncut]

and here’s someone on another website saying the same exact thing: 

 

 

Why Hotel Check-Out Times May Become a Thing of the Past | Condé Nast Traveler

WWW.CNTRAVELER.COM

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Some hotels are getting rid of traditional check-in and -out times to cater to a new kind of traveler.

 

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[jeezifonly]

The suffering you endure bravely, without complaint. 😇

 

Oops…

meant “we”
 

 

[Jamie21]

7 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

How are you going to tell me my operating model doesn’t work, but then say you don’t travel so aren’t going to offer any ideas? You might as well have just said that one line, and left it there.

No, I said “it appears that your operating model doesn’t work”, based on your own comments. I’m suggesting that using hotels as a venue is a fundamental flaw. Hotels aren’t going to change their operating model because the check out time clearly works for them (as in their whole operating model makes them money). But I guess most of their clients are using the hotel for the main purpose it’s intended rather than using it to host clients. I don’t think they’ll change how they operate to appeal to the travelling escort market so you have to adjust your expectations around what’s possible within their model unfortunately. 

Also I didn’t offer any solution because I know you don’t want suggestions (that’s based on experience). 

[Guest]

In response to your last two messages: Yes. Solution: to accommodate bookings from 12-3 you’ll need to add a day to the front- or back-end of your hotel reservation. Alternatively, you could persuade hotel management to change the policy to meet your needs or the needs of the escort industry generally.

As an aside, I don’t think anyone posting here was intending to belittle or minimize your frustrations. I think folks were genuinely trying to help you see the issue more clearly and to offer solutions for your benefit (i.e., they care). Why else would anyone spend two seconds on this topic? That’s the value of this community, and the reason I’m drawn to it (and of course threads like “What A Load”).

Peace.

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

. I’m suggesting that using hotels as a venue is a fundamental flaw. Hotels aren’t going to change their operating model because the check out time clearly works for them (as in their whole operating model makes them money). But I guess most of their clients are using the hotel for the main purpose it’s intended rather than using it to host clients

Exactly.

Book a MOTEL not a HOTEL.

 

[marylander1940]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Exactly.

Book a MOTEL not a HOTEL.

 

Exactly!

Also @Jarrod_Uncut how much do you usually pay for motels? 

I know big chains that allow late check out at 4 PM are more expensive but they always have airport hotels that are usually cheaper. Also Marriott has alternative cheaper names like SpringHill Suites, Aloft, Fairfield Inn and Four Points by Sheraton, and you'll only need 50 nights per year to reach a level that will guarantee you leaving the hotel at 4 instead of 11 AM.

Don't you think sticking to one chain of hotels would be a great investment in your business? I'm just trying to help you figure it out a way to resolve this problem and have a guaranteed 4 PM late check out. 

4 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

 

Also I didn’t offer any solution because I know you don’t want suggestions (that’s based on experience). 

Let's hope this subject doesn't come up again this year!

 

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[NYXboy]

I don't know why Jarrod even bothers to asks for peoples advice or views, when its very clear he already knows fucking EVERYTHING. 

[Rudynate]

On 1/6/2024 at 8:34 PM, pubic_assistance said:

🙄Here we go again.....

News flash: white people also suffer consequences for breaking rules.

I know thst must be shocking to you. But it's true.

11:00 am checkout means you're supposed to leave your room by 11:00 am so they can clean the room for the next person. No matter what color the person is they find in the room...the response is the same.

GET OUT. We need to clean that room.

 

I have noticed that if you go over a little bit, nobody seems to mind.  I always shoot for 11A checkout, but sometimes I don't get out til 11:15 or 11:30.  Nobody has ever said anything.

[Rudynate]

On 1/6/2024 at 1:55 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

 

 

Whether drama or no drama: The 10-11-12 p.m. checkout still leaves me inconvenienced. It’s not about selfish, it’s about having a preference to have more time to allow possibilities or the option to stay longer, not be hurried 🧹out onto the street before I can even make a decision. I can bet hotels would make more money if they played fairly, and gave people until 3 to 5 pm to checkout. One hotel in Denver used to allow 6 p.m. for extra $25, but it was kinda worn (Ramada). During Covid, they demolished it. Not sure if it was because of that or general gentrification growing in the area.

You can have that convenience, but it costs.

[musclestuduws]

Hey guys, this is turning into cyber bullying and it’s painfully cringe-inducing to watch. Please find it in yourselves to be a little more understanding if not kinder toward @Jarrod_Uncut.  Everyone on here seems to be piling up to judge and punish Jarrod as if he had committed a capital crime! Just take it easy and relax, speaking from a place of moral superiority to crowd-condemn someone is pretty puritanical, the worst kind of backward thinking. My apologies to Jarrod in the name of everyone else on here. We are a community after all and we come here to try to understand each other and share advice and experiences despite our most egregious differences, especially so at a time when hate crimes, intolerance, and racism are at an all-time high. Peace. 

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Grammar

[Jarrod_Uncut]

2 hours ago, musclestuduws said:

Hey guys, this is turning into cyber bullying and it’s painfully cringe-inducing to watch. Please find it in yourselves to be a little more understanding if not kinder toward @Jarrod_Uncut.  Everyone on here seems to be piling up to judge and punish Jarrod as if he had committed a capital crime! Just take it easy and relax, speaking from a place of moral superiority to crowd-condemn someone is pretty puritanical, the worst kind of backward thinking. My apologies to Jarrod in the name of everyone else on here. We are a community after all and we come here to try to understand each other and share advice and experiences despite our most egregious differences, especially so at a time when hate crimes, intolerance, and racism are at an all-time high. Peace. 

Amen 💯 1,000% actually. If I could give more than 1 reaction, I would 👏🏽 🏆 

I see a lot of this “holier than thou” stuff on social media (aka Facebook) a lot. The same guys doing heavy drugs and sleeping around doing bareback parties outside of their marriage, are telling other dudes why they’re single. Hmm 🤔 you don’t say? (Not judging or criticizing anyone who does, but just an example).

I really didn’t expect a thread about hotel checkout times to turn into a whole argument. People are quick to make answers without even getting the full facts. For example: many thought I was yelling at the MAIDS. No, I wasn’t yelling at the maids. I wasn’t yelling at all. I simply had a stern conversation with the desk clerk, who thought she had a reason to come to my room and confront me. 
 

And I’ll tell @Jamie21 again: I was not expecting to change the world in any shape or form. I just simply implied that having to DAILY checkout of a hotel at 11 or 12 noon when visiting cities (except the days I have the room for more than one night) is an inconvenience. And someone who doesn’t travel, or only stays in hotels once a year for the Palm Springs event: wouldn’t know how it is to have to check out of hotels everyday at noon when sometimes, you really have a need for 3 or 4 p.m. 

I highly doubt hotels would go out of business with that model. I even spoke to a member on the forum who works at hotels, and he says the only time they really don’t allow late checkout is when there is a football game in town. But MOST of the time, these hotels have the rooms available, nobody is checking in after me: they just only concerned about their bottom line.

Imagine if an escort was like: your hour is over, on the dot. Stop, get out. Or better yet, 50 minutes into the hour so you only have 10 minutes to get ready and get out. I wonder how people would feel about that, when the tables are turned 🤔 

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, musclestuduws said:

Hey guys, this is turning into cyber bullying

No..it's just difficult to get some people to hear the advice they're given.

Tough love.

[musclestuduws]

15 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

No..it's just difficult to get some people to hear the advice they're given.

Tough love.

Right on cue. All bullies rationalize their abuse calling it “tough love.” 

[pubic_assistance]

20 minutes ago, musclestuduws said:

All bullies rationalize their abuse calling it “tough love.

And all pussies cry "bully" when someone tries to give the straight scoop.

Two sides to THAT particular card, my friend, @musclestuduws

No one is bullying anyone here. But there are a lot of people who wish Jarrod would cut the crap and find some answers to his multitude of problems. We keep offering simple answers to simple problems and instead they are discarded in favor of more problems, such as bullying, racism and hate speech against him because we just don't like him. ( his recent claim)

 

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[Jarrod_Uncut]

9 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

No, I said “it appears that your operating model doesn’t work”, based on your own comments. I’m suggesting that using hotels as a venue is a fundamental flaw. Hotels aren’t going to change their operating model because the check out time clearly works for them (as in their whole operating model makes them money). But I guess most of their clients are using the hotel for the main purpose it’s intended rather than using it to host clients. I don’t think they’ll change how they operate to appeal to the travelling escort market so you have to adjust your expectations around what’s possible within their model unfortunately. 

Also I didn’t offer any solution because I know you don’t want suggestions (that’s based on experience). 

Well you should have said THEIR operating model doesn’t work for mine. The way you originally said, put mine down in favor of theirs. That’s what it sounded like. You’re saying it differently now but, that could have been stated previously instead of backtracking to make it sound more agreeable. Sounded like you were trying to put me down, bro 🤷🏾‍♂️ 

4 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Exactly!

Also @Jarrod_Uncut how much do you usually pay for motels? 

I know big chains that allow late check out at 4 PM are more expensive but they always have airport hotels that are usually cheaper. Also Marriott has alternative cheaper names like SpringHill Suites, Aloft, Fairfield Inn and Four Points by Sheraton, and you'll only need 50 nights per year to reach a level that will guarantee you leaving the hotel at 4 instead of 11 AM.

Don't you think sticking to one chain of hotels would be a great investment in your business? I'm just trying to help you figure it out a way to resolve this problem and have a guaranteed 4 PM late check out. 

Let's hope this subject doesn't come up again this year!

 

You’re not telling me anything I don’t already know. I DO stick to one hotel chain. That’s the whole point of this thread 🤦🏾‍♂️ . I’m a Diamond member with one particular chain, yet majority of the time they hardly ever honor the late checkout privilege. I usually always have to ask, but it should be automatic. They see when I check in that I’m a Diamond member. 
 

I also have marriott and Hilton apps, because I do admire their properties and I think I’m a silver member with Marriott. But again, as has been mentioned: lot of their hotels are DOUBLE sometimes TRIPLE the price of the chain I normally go thru which I have Diamond status with. For example in nashville with the chain I normally book with:

Now here’s Marriott prices:

 

 

Thats Marriott app. My budget for hotels is usually always $100 or less, and I usually get nice rooms. If not trying to spend my entire rate on a hotel room, but I’m also not trying to overwork myself by taking multiple clients per day, when sometimes I’m traveling for 1 or 2 weeks at a time. But it doesn’t matter what chain it is, 12 pm still pretty standard checkout. The 4 p.m. thing I can almost be certain has to be requested and will be given at the hotel’s discretion. If there’s any kind of event going on in town, I can bet it will not be honored.

Also something I didn’t mention about Marriott that I have often noticed: their TVs are often rigged to disable plug in of input ports. Meaning I can’t always play my own videos/movies that I like to bring to appointments or my personal use. I experienced that last month staying at courtyard Marriott. I was able to connect my player, and it would show on the screen but then, the volume was raised to 100 on the TV with no way to turn it down because the remote was rigged to the cable box (and I’ve also found out a way to get around that too, but they had the cable box behind a little “gate” on the wall 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

Also @marylander1940 if you think it’s so easy for me to afford 50 nights at Marriott properties, just send me your credit card and I’ll be using it to book it each time I need a room. Just keep in mind, most Marriott and Hiltons ALWAYAS require an extra deposit of $50-$250 (Residence Inn Denver last year: wanted to charge me an extra $250 deposit for one night in their penthouse suite I booked. I declined and just stuck with the regular 1 room suite which was $150 deposit) on top of the room (I usually have it waived at the cheaper brand of hotels I use). And then once I reach Diamond member status, I’ll send it back. Deal? 😂 

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[PileDriver]

same babe...use to the be the norm...maybe it is part of the effect of DayUse?

[pubic_assistance]

1 minute ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

it should be automatic.

So now mind-reading is being expected of a hotel chain !!

JUST ASK is the answer to this question.

The whole conversation is blown so far out of proportion it's ridiculous.

I've never been denied a late check out when I asked at a member hotel. Simple. And I seriously doubt they keep track of what color my skin is, so they know which answer to give me. 🙄

[musclestuduws]

6 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

And all pussies cry "bully" when someone tries to give the straight scoop.

Two sides to THAT particular card, my friend, @musclestuduws

No one is bullying anyone here. But there are a lot of people who wish Jarrod would cut the crap and find some answers to his multitude of problems. We keep offering simple answers to simple problems and instead they are discarded in favor of more problems, such as bullying, racism and hate speech against him because we just don't like him. ( his recent claim)

 

And now, the derogatory, homophobic name calling too. You’re a bully in every possible sense of the word. I rest my case. 

[Jamie21]

39 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

And I’ll tell @Jamie21 again: I was not expecting to change the world in any shape or form. I just simply implied that having to DAILY checkout of a hotel at 11 or 12 noon when visiting cities (except the days I have the room for more than one night) is an inconvenience. And someone who doesn’t travel, or only stays in hotels once a year for the Palm Springs event: wouldn’t know how it is to have to check out of hotels everyday at noon when sometimes, you really have a need for 3 or 4 p.m. 

I’ve never travelled to the Palm Springs event unfortunately. But I do use hotels and try to comply with their terms.

I guess it is an inconvenience to check out when the hotel’s policy requires you to, but I have a choice not to use the hotel if they are strict about enforcing the rule. I hear that it’s also an inconvenience to pay a deposit to an escort for many clients. You apply that deposit rule for good reason, based on your experience. I think the hotel check out rule is similar. They apply it for good reason otherwise if they relax it and allow 4pm check outs many more of their clients would take advantage of it and there’d be no time to clean the rooms. So in their mind they have good reason. I think the same principle applies: you require deposits and are strict about it: they require check out promptly and are strict about it. If you don’t like their rules don’t use them. Similarly clients who don’t play by your requirements don’t get to meet you. 
 

[Jamie21]

9 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Well you should have said THEIR operating model doesn’t work for mine.

No, because you’re their customer. You have to fit to their model. If your model doesn’t fit them then don’t use them, find someone else. I’m not trying to put you down rather I’m trying to explain how I see it.