Hotels are wearing me out…does it take the fun out of touring for you?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, Trick said:

You see, that’s your problem right there.  You are not aware of what you can and cannot do.

You cannot drive us out of here.  This is a public forum, we don’t need your permission or your invitation to comment.

You can’t tell hotels how to run their business, you just have to adapt your business to theirs.  You want to sleep in, pack late, or meet clients at 11am or 12pm, book more nights.  

Stay if you want, you’re welcome to. But it’s just not going to be conducive if you or others continue to start arguments with me. There’s a difference. 
 

But how convenient, look at what I found from a recent reviewer from that same hotel:

 

and another:

 

 

Think hotels are fair and just doing business? Think again…this is the behavior I refer to.

Edited January 9 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jarrod_Uncut]

17 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

The clerks, not the Indian clerks. 

Maybe some of them are from Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan or Myanmar and don't like to be called Indian. Besides does their nationality matter?

lol this didn’t require a cross examination. I know what I’m talking about. Many are Indians from India 🇮🇳 That’s a well known fact. YOU KNOW I’ll quote more articles to backup what I’m saying lol. I never said nationality mattered. I’m specifically talking about Indians who run majority of the hotels in the network I book. I know they’re often from Indian, and it’s no diss towards Indians. It just happens to be the majority who own the hotels in America. It’s facts, not prejudice:

And for your information, the ones in hospitality not always ”politically correct “ to us either. I don’t know how Black Americans/Africans are treated or viewed in India, but I have seen how some of the Indian hoteliers can be in areas of certain communities.  I have seen them run hotels in every state. I’ve had to ask them to change certain items that appeared not clean, and they get an attitude with me because I have a standard for cleanliness they maybe aren’t used to some guests asking for. Lots of stains on the chair? Switch me a new one. Room has an off smell? Change me to a new one. I’ve even been told I can check out if I don’t like it. 

So how can you be so politically correct about what I refer to them as? lol. You are getting a bit technical with the whole ”they might not be from India” lecture. I doubt even they would be arguing with me about their nationality 😆 

 

Indian-Americans Own 60 Percent Of Hotel Industry In U.S. - TheUNN

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Accounting for 34,260 hotels across the United States, Indian Americans owned hotels account for 60 percent...

 

How Indian Americans Came to Run Half of All U.S. Motels

WWW.NATIONALGEOGRAPHIC.COM

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Starting in the 1940s, Indian immigrants built a hospitality industry that their children and grandchildren...

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[Harryinny]

And what about frequent requests to change sheets after each client? Hotels respond well to that?

[Trick]

5 hours ago, Harryinny said:

And what about frequent requests to change sheets after each client? Hotels respond well to that?

I make sure we don’t stain the sheets.  At cheaper hotels I have to lie down on a moist towel while being topped.  I must be housekeeping’s favorite non-guest. 😜

Edited January 9 by Trick

[Rudynate]

10 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Stop gaslighting me. YOU KNOW I’ll quote more articles to backup what I’m saying lol. I never said nationality mattered. I’m specifically talking about Indians who run majority of the hotels in the network I book. I know they’re often from Indian, and it’s no diss towards Indians. It just happens to be the majority who own the hotels in America. It’s facts, not prejudice:

And for your information, the ones in hospitality not always nice to us either. I don’t know how Black people are treated or viewed in India, but I do feel Indians don’t like Black-Americans. I have seen them run hotels in every state. In Florida, they are behind a locked entry, and treat Black guests like scum. Especially in the high Black populated areas where they run hotels. They don’t give a shit. I’ve been in some nasty dirty hotels run by Indians. And they don’t like me because I have a standard for cleanliness that they aren’t used to BLACK guests asking for. Stain on the chair? Give me a new one. Room stinks? Give me a new one. They get an attitude with me or sometimes tell me don’t come back if I don’t like it. 

So how can you be so politically correct about what I call them? lol. You are out of pocket right now with that whole ”they might not be from India” lecture. Goodbye sir, don’t even go there 😆 . 

 

Indian-Americans Own 60 Percent Of Hotel Industry In U.S. - TheUNN

THEUNN.COM

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Accounting for 34,260 hotels across the United States, Indian Americans owned hotels account for 60 percent...

 

How Indian Americans Came to Run Half of All U.S. Motels

WWW.NATIONALGEOGRAPHIC.COM

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Starting in the 1940s, Indian immigrants built a hospitality industry that their children and grandchildren...

This is fascinating - how did I miss it?  When I think of Indians, I think of engineers and doctors.    Reminds me of Cambodians and doughnut shops.

[NYXboy]

LOL at Jarrod now being racist and trying to act like he wasn't.  Good luck with all the potential Indian clients that do some research before hiring you buddy.  I sure as shit wouldn't.  

I wonder if you realize how many clients do research and actually look you up here and see the energy you spit out.  Its so non-reflective of you to sit back and think - 'wow. all these people are saying this to me, maybe there is something to it?'. Take a moment to consider - what can I do to help this situation?  

I really enjoy this community and I feel like you abuse it with your constant whining and complaining.  You don't want assistance, collaboration - you want arguments. 

I too, prefer a late checkout, and I always request one.  most times it has been granted - sometimes with an added fee - sometimes no added fee at all.  Rarely is it not granted. Perhaps you should look at renting airbnb's which are more flexible with check in and check out?  

Or give up the biz that seems to drain you and you despise so much.  your constant negative posting here sure as hell is not helping you.  

[Jarrod_Uncut]

7 hours ago, Harryinny said:

And what about frequent requests to change sheets after each client? Hotels respond well to that?

I actually bring my own sheets to top the hotel sheets. That way if there is an…unexpected, I can just throw it off and lay on mine. And there’s usually always a washer/dryer in a hotel or at a friend’s place I can use. 1 is thinner but another is a thick duvet cover. I love it. Got it from Macy’s years ago. It’s all cotton and folds up enough to fit in a duffle bag, but it can be somewhat heavy with other items.

13 minutes ago, Rudynate said:

This is fascinating - how did I miss it?  When I think of Indians, I think of engineers and doctors.    Reminds me of Cambodians and doughnut shops.

Yeah they are. I know my doctor I believe is Indian along with several of the other medical professionals ones there. There’s actually a population of Indians (maybe they’re from another surrounding country but doubt it, and not getting technical here) who live in the city I live, who go to the university for medical school.

But I wondered this myself awhile ago and looked it up. I would stop in cities and towns with no Indian population, yet the hotels are Indian owned. Even where my relatives live, there’s only 2 hotels in town. The only “chain” one is owned by an Indian guy who is there every time I check in. I can tell he just wants to get me in and out.  When I ask for a preference on room location, he’s like no, everything booked. 

 

[Rudynate]

4 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

 

Yeah they are. I know my doctor I believe is Indian along with several of the other medical professionals ones there. There’s actually a population of Indians (maybe they’re from another surrounding country but doubt it, and not getting technical here) who live in the city I live, who go to the university for medical school.

But I wondered this myself awhile ago and looked it up. I would stop in cities and towns with no Indian population, yet the hotels are Indian owned. Even where my relatives live, there’s only 2 hotels in town. The only “chain” one is owned by an Indian guy who is there every time I check in. I can tell he just wants to get me in and out.  When I ask for a preference on room location, he’s like no, everything booked. 

 

Maybe it's an issue of class.  I worked with an Indian woman who was an engineer.  I heard someone comment once that she didn't have an Indian accent. And she said it was because she had been educated in private schools where the instruction was in English.  And if you think about it, Indian doctors and engineers tend not to speak with Indian accents - it's usually perfect Oxford English.  The Indian hoteliers tend to have humble origins  and to be from one state - Gujarat.

[MikeThomas]

My two complaints…

1.  Add on fees, such as spa fees, when 1) they don’t have a spa, or 2) you don’t intend to use it

2.  The ridiculous local taxes. It’s much easier for incompetent politicians to tax out of town visitors than local voters. 

[Alexphilly]

[Jarrod_Uncut]

2 hours ago, NYXboy said:

LOL at Jarrod now being racist and trying to act like he wasn't.  Good luck with all the potential Indian clients that do some research before hiring you buddy.  I sure as shit wouldn't.  

I wonder if you realize how many clients do research and actually look you up here and see the energy you spit out.  Its so non-reflective of you to sit back and think - 'wow. all these people are saying this to me, maybe there is something to it?'. Take a moment to consider - what can I do to help this situation?  

I really enjoy this community and I feel like you abuse it with your constant whining and complaining.  You don't want assistance, collaboration - you want arguments. 

I too, prefer a late checkout, and I always request one.  most times it has been granted - sometimes with an added fee - sometimes no added fee at all.  Rarely is it not granted. Perhaps you should look at renting airbnb's which are more flexible with check in and check out?  

Or give up the biz that seems to drain you and you despise so much.  your constant negative posting here sure as hell is not helping you.  

Boy please ✋🏾 Stop. Now you’re instigating and not making any difference in what you claim I’m being. I was not being racist by stating what I’ve experienced staying at  SOME hotels run by Indians. Some have been cheap. Yes, there’s nothing racist about it. They were Indians, and they cut corners. I see it all the time.
 

I remember couple months ago I checked into a hotel with stains all on the computer desk chair. I called down to ask it to be changed. The lady downstairs told me she could switch it out. But then another guy (Indian) came up and was like: no, I clean it. So he takes a White wash cloth…and scrubs down the chair in front of me. For one, it was a fabric type of material. It needed to be deep cleaned. 2nd, it didn’t hardly even remove the stain much. So I just sat on the bed the whole time instead.

No need to be a known it all and debate with me about stuff I know about. If you don’t like me, that’s your fault. You don’t have to be here either, what I post about should in no way detract from your experience here, when there’s dozens of threads on a dozen different sections on the forum to read. So don’t even lie, and claim that. You just want to come here trying to put me down and tell me what I can or can’t say. 
 

And again for the 100th time; I REQUEST LATE CHECKOUT ALSO when I know I need it. For the 100th time, with your selective reading, you missed the memo where I said in the particular situation in the first post, I called down the next morning and the phone rang like 10 times and nobody picked up. If I’m trying to pack up, and tend to my own circumstance: I don’t have time to be chasing staff down by phone. The lady missed the call, nobody else picked up, then she wants to come 30 minutes later knocking on the door.

Now, I’ve left that discussion already. That said, people like you are why I’m selective with a lot of gay people I deal with. I notice a lot of gay men out there who like to put off an image of being bubbly and agreeable, yet I see it all the time: they have drama of their own or they are getting over on another gay guy and not caring much about who they got over on. They’ll be there thick and thin for their cliquey party friends: But will leave someone else they know who is not in their circle, in the lurch. Yet have the audacity to put out this facade of being Mother Theresa. And that’s okay, it’s good to put out positivity. But it’s rarely genuine. Just like your advice is not, because you trying to put me down.

But don’t come around with this “my life is perfect” stance just because I talk about something that is a bit difficult. You want me to book air bnbs? Well: send some money. Send me a gift for $10,000, so I can book nothing but air bnbs for the rest of the year. They’re not cheap. I’ve researched many air bnb places. There’s even another site where you can rent air bnb type places by the month. If you going to suggest me to do something, provide the resources. Talk is cheap. Or shut up. 

Edited January 9 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jarrod_Uncut]

56 minutes ago, MikeThomas said:

My two complaints…

1.  Add on fees, such as spa fees, when 1) they don’t have a spa, or 2) you don’t intend to use it

2.  The ridiculous local taxes. It’s much easier for incompetent politicians to tax out of town visitors than local voters. 

This is true…I know in some states like Georgia, there’s a $5/night “highway maintenance” tax. I was like, huh? Rather add it to the hotel bill than make toll booths, I guess 🤷🏾‍♂️ 

I mention this to someone the other day, sometimes a hotel rate sounds nice until you add the taxes and fees to it. And especially with rented apartments, they often have an advertised rate on 3rd party site, but it’s like double once factoring the fees in. It’s like, why even advertise it at $81 a night 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

My 3 hotel annoyances are:

1. Resort fees, for items I can't choose to use/not use.  Make them optional (like parking fees) or just include them in the advertised rate.  I now avoid hotels with these fees, even if it means I pay more overall for an inclusive rate.

2. Reduction of Daily housekeeping.  Verifying a hotel has daily housekeeping service is now my new normal when reserving hotels.

3. Water saving shower heads with almost no flow.

For everything else I'm pretty easy going.  Breakfast included or no breakfast, it doesn't matter.  Early/Late check-in/out doesn't matter.  Having to swipe a key to use the elevator, doesn't matter.

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, NYXboy said:

I really enjoy this community and I feel like you abuse it with your constant whining and complaining.  You don't want assistance, collaboration - you want arguments. 

[Trick]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

Will you please stop reading my mind!  🤪

[Shawn Monroe]

17 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

People have given advice, like @Shawn Monroe did.

And to be fair, I don’t always 100% agree with you on, but this is a topic I agree with you on. It *does* suck to be rushed out of a room at 11am (especially on a weekend, doubly so after Covid) and the only way I’ve found to deal with it is to book an extra night, spending $x amount of dollars - essentially gambling in the hopes it works out (and sometimes it doesn’t). 

it’s different when it is your livelihood. 

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, Shawn Monroe said:

And to be fair, I don’t always 100% agree with you on, but this is a topic I agree with you on. It *does* suck to be rushed out of a room at 11am (especially on a weekend, doubly so after Covid) and the only way I’ve found to deal with it is to book an extra night, spending $x amount of dollars - essentially gambling in the hopes it works out (and sometimes it doesn’t). 

it’s different when it is your livelihood. 

Do you stick to a chain of hotels? 

I think you said you don't like to stay downtown, pardon me if I'm confusing you with another provider. Would you ever consider a highway motel to host guests?  

[Simon Suraci]

5 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

And there’s usually always a washer/dryer in a hotel

^ @Jarrod_Uncut I’m genuinely interested in which hotels you’ve found offer guest laundry facilities. I ask and most of the time they don’t have them.

Access to laundry is one of the biggest reasons I rent AirBnBs / VRBOs etc. Hosting 1-2 clients a day is no big deal to bring a spare set of sheets/blankets (…shlankets?), but when I travel and have up to six clients a day without convenient access to laundry facilities - that’s just untenable for me. I have mostly massage clients, mind you, with 0-2 escort client appointments on any given day. I bring about a dozen of my own sets of dedicated massage linens and towels and wash them daily.

[pubic_assistance]

42 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

Jarrod_Uncut I’m genuinely interested in which hotels you’ve found offer guest laundry facilities. I ask and most of the time they don’t have them.

Those tend to be the Hillbilly Hotels like Stay America and Studio 6. 

 

[Simon Suraci]

On 1/8/2024 at 7:45 AM, musclestuduws said:

Hey guys, this is turning into cyber bullying and it’s painfully cringe-inducing to watch. Please find it in yourselves to be a little more understanding if not kinder toward @Jarrod_Uncut.  Everyone on here seems to be piling up to judge and punish Jarrod as if he had committed a capital crime! Just take it easy and relax, speaking from a place of moral superiority to crowd-condemn someone is pretty puritanical, the worst kind of backward thinking. My apologies to Jarrod in the name of everyone else on here. We are a community after all and we come here to try to understand each other and share advice and experiences despite our most egregious differences, especially so at a time when hate crimes, intolerance, and racism are at an all-time high. Peace. 

@musclestuduws I have much the same attitude as you. I was more sympathetic toward @Jarrod_Uncut until I came to terms with the fact he repeatedly refuses to take a lot of well-reasoned, attitude-free advice from dozens of members to heart.

I gave up. If he wants to be a victim or a martyr, let him. Should he find interest in improving himself, he will do so on his own accord. He already has volumes worth of good forum advice to lean on. Expect more of the same to fall on deaf ears.

My suggestion: ignore Jarrod’s complaining posts. We can’t make decisions for him or force him to recon with the world as it is. Any answer you give that doesn’t fall along the lines of “the world should conform to you, Jarrod” he will argue with until you (and he) are utterly exhausted.

To the bullies amongst us, even those with reasonable (if not mean-spirited, comments): ignore and move on to topics you like better. Aren’t you bored?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

45 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Those tend to be the Hillbilly Hotels like Stay America and Studio 6. 

 

Don’t make up lies…that’s not true. I haven’t stayed in either of those hotel names in many months, and only for a day or so. There’s lots of hotel chains who have laundry facilities

1 hour ago, Simon Suraci said:

^ @Jarrod_Uncut I’m genuinely interested in which hotels you’ve found offer guest laundry facilities. I ask and most of the time they don’t have them.

Access to laundry is one of the biggest reasons I rent AirBnBs / VRBOs etc. Hosting 1-2 clients a day is no big deal to bring a spare set of sheets/blankets (…shlankets?), but when I travel and have up to six clients a day without convenient access to laundry facilities - that’s just untenable for me. I have mostly massage clients, mind you, with 0-2 escort client appointments on any given day. I bring about a dozen of my own sets of dedicated massage linens and towels and wash them daily.

I was just about to answer your question and mention some options, but then you said:

38 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

@musclestuduws I have much the same attitude as you. I was more sympathetic toward @Jarrod_Uncut until I came to terms with the fact he repeatedly refuses to take a lot of well-reasoned, attitude-free advice from dozens of members to heart.

I gave up. If he wants to be a victim or a martyr, let him. Should he find interest in improving himself, he will do so on his own accord. He already has volumes worth of good forum advice to lean on. Expect more of the same to fall on deaf ears.

My suggestion: ignore Jarrod’s complaining posts. We can’t make decisions for him or force him to recon with the world as it is. Any answer you give that doesn’t fall along the lines of “the world should conform to you, Jarrod” he will argue with until you (and he) are utterly exhausted.

To the bullies amongst us, even those with reasonable (if not mean-spirited, comments): ignore and move on to topics you like better. Aren’t you bored?

I can’t believe you’d say that about me. I thought we had an understanding about things, especially considering us to be “fellow” guys in the business. Guess not 🤷🏾‍♂️ 

You can take the devil’s advocate route, or you can be a bit more open minded and try to see the topics for what they are versus simply dubbing them as complaints. There’s no refusal to take well meaning advice, I can accept it. But similar to like you’re saying, don’t tell me: “take this advice” and then include “you’re wrong for this and that, and you need to do this and that”. What good does that do? For example like @azdr0710 said, talking about I’m selfish and unprofessional. Sooooo, a strange woman coming to my door and telling me to pack my bags and get out, 15 minutes after checkout time without even asking or acknowledging my loyalty status is not unprofessional? When SHE SHOULD KNOW earns a late checkout (and when you get it so many times, sometimes you don’t always know which hotels are going to allow or not allow it).
 

And notice how @azdr0710 couldn’t even respond back and ACKNOWLEDGE the statement I said about I was just in the hospital the day before with the flu, and THAT was part of why I was having issues leaving the next morning. And knowing I couldn’t take any other clients until the Tamiflu course was finished, I wasn’t about to sink more money into that room. Didn’t even acknowledge it. He completely ignored that, and kept to his opinion about me, without knowing the facts. And you, have audacity to come on here, and further insult me because I’m not being subservient to people giving me backhanded advice?

I don’t even trust half of some on here right now. I see too much fake, phony and 2 faced, and you’re right…why do I even waste my time posting here knowing somebody is going to come along and say some disparaging shit to steer the conversation away from its intended purpose.

Edited January 9 by Jarrod_Uncut

[pubic_assistance]

5 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Don’t make up lies…that’s not true. I haven’t stayed in either of those hotel names 

What "lies" 🤔

@Simon Suraciasked what hotel brands have  laundry facilities 

I was answering his question, not talking about you. 

[Simon Suraci]

4 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

why do I even waste my time posting here.

Something that truly mystifies us all.

It’s tough love.

See you next thread, Jarrod 👋 

[pubic_assistance]

8 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

There’s no refusal to take well meaning advice

[Jarrod_Uncut]

10 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

What "lies" 🤔

@Simon Suraciasked what hotel brands have  laundry facilities 

I was answering his question, not talking about you. 

Bitch, he didn’t ask you he was asking me. WTF is your point? 🤦🏾‍♂️