Providers hiring providers?

[DWnyc]

Just curious, based on reading between the lines on comments I’ve heard every now and then …

Do you (a provider) ever hire another provider? (1-on-1)

[Rand]

Curious topic!

[Jamie21]

Yes. For market research purposes and continuing professional development, and for that reason the cost is tax deductible. 

Sometimes I also collaborate with other providers for filming purposes. That’s free of course because we both get content. 

And then there’s the friends who do sex work who I sometimes play with. 
 

[+ IronMaus]

Absolutely. Sometimes when incredibly attracted to someone and decide it would be better to hire them than to pursue them personally - especially if I only know them through RM or seeing their porn. I've only done this a handful of times but they were all very worthwhile experiences.

[Marc in Calif]

14 hours ago, IronMaus said:

Absolutely. Sometimes when incredibly attracted to someone and decide it would be better to hire them than to pursue them personally - especially if I only know them through RM or seeing their porn. I've only done this a handful of times but they were all very worthwhile experiences.

Sherman, the "Daddy's Reviews" link in your signature is out of date and broken. 

[+ ThroatCummer]

My favorite provider of all time has hired providers in his personal life 10-12+ times. He did it to sort through the "app" bullshit (Grindr, etc..) and get straight to the point when he wanted to fuck and not have many strings.  I have a hard time believing someone that good fucking looking would do that, but he was being genuine and had very valid reasons and lots of stories. It does make sense if you think about it. You're paying for reliability in that scenario and don't want to bother with the flakiness. 

[misterhumphries]

This is true of any profession. A dentist must have dentist. A barber has a barber. Why wouldn't an escort spread the wealth to a colleague?

[Storm4U]

I have not hired any, but there are a couple of providers who have hired me, so it definitely happens

[Luv2play]

I recently saw a review in RM by a provider I had previously hired of another provider who I only recognized by his own ad on RM. He gave a great review of the other provider.

Ironically I didn't review the one I had been with because he was a dud.

[+ Charlie]

Many years ago in NYC, after a pleasant romp, a provider and I lay in bed and looked through a copy of the Advocate "pink pages" together, commenting to one another on each of the providers whom we had hired or slept with. He had had experiences with many of the same guys I had hired.

[Luv2play]

4 hours ago, Charlie said:

Many years ago in NYC, after a pleasant romp, a provider and I lay in bed and looked through a copy of the Advocate "pink pages" together, commenting to one another on each of the providers whom we had hired or slept with. He had had experiences with many of the same guys I had hired.

I've discussed it with a few providers recently like in the last couple of years and a few had slept with one or two I had hired. It seemed as I recall it was a hookup where no money changed hands or they didn't disclose to me if one had paid anything. 

Others could comment about another escort from personal interaction because they had been part of a threeway or greater number of providers with a client. 

I always appreciate getting an inside view and am discreet with the info. and use it only for my own purposes.

Edited February 22, 2023 by Luv2play

[+ Charlie]

13 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

I've discussed it with a few providers recently like in the last couple of years and a few had slept with one or two I had hired. It seemed as I recall it was a hookup where no money changed hands or they didn't disclose to me if one had paid anything. 

Others could comment about another escort from personal interaction because they had been part of a threeway or greater number of providers with a client. 

I always appreciate getting an inside view and am discreet with the info. and use it only for my own purposes.

I was interested by how similar our impressions were of those we both had been with.

[Simon Suraci]

Absolutely. I hire other massage therapists for a couple reasons: therapeutic massage and market research.

I like to know who is providing what so I can invest in my own development and stay competitive. I can’t and won’t give exactly the same massage as someone else, but it really helps to understand my competitors’ work and helps me give informed recommendations for those who may fit better with another provider. Sometimes it’s nice to offer an alternate for when I’m unavailable during the time a client requests.

In addition to my chiropractor appointments, I need regular therapeutic work since my job is so physically demanding. I also just really enjoy massages. The percentage of providers I will see for regular massages is very, very small. There’s a lot of nonsense in the business. Even among some of the good people, I am quite picky about massages. It’s expensive as you all know, so I want to spend my $ where it counts.

Some massage therapists hire me regularly because they recognize and appreciate - better than anyone - a high quality experience for a good value. I also collaborate with other therapists on 4-hand massages for clients that request it. For 4-hand, I have to know if the other provider and I work well together, if they’re reliable, what quality they deliver, etc.

Trading massage is a gamble. You never know how good it’s going to be with a new provider or if they are the right provider for you. It saves money, to be sure, but costs time (and availability, which = potential $). The best case scenario is to trade when each person is less busy, or less likely to be booked. I prefer to hire. If the therapist is a good fit for my needs and likes my work too, that’s the best case scenario for a trade.

I don’t hire for escort service (no interest or need), but I completely understand the reliability factor of being able to hire. My clients share horror stories of how much time they spend (and waste) on unreliable and/or bad connections on apps and websites. If you have to spend half your week doing that and it’s still bad, economically it makes sense to spend a few hundred dollars to get exactly what you want with who you want, when you want. It works no differently for providers.

We’re people too, with human needs and time limitations, no matter our level of conventional attractiveness. Sure some of us have more “options” as it were, but not all of them are options we actually want. We also value safety, quality of experience, compatibility, and reliability.

[BuffaloKyle]

I bet a lot of providers who are constantly hired to cater to a client's sexual tastes and desires like to hire someone so they can have their sexual wants fulfilled!

[+ IronMaus]

On 2/13/2023 at 3:22 PM, Marc in Calif said:

Sherman, the "Daddy's Reviews" link in your signature is out of date and broken. 

Oh no! I don't know where that is, what the correct link is, or how to fix it. Can someone help me with this?

Also, on topic, Does anyone have recommendations for escorts to hire in DC? Someone who likes to top and knows massage would be preferable...

[big-n-tall]

2 hours ago, IronMaus said:

Oh no! I don't know where that is, what the correct link is, or how to fix it. Can someone help me with this?

Also, on topic, Does anyone have recommendations for escorts to hire in DC? Someone who likes to top and knows massage would be preferable...

I looked up your reviews in the archived site and your name wasn’t coming up. I know the forum techs are porting over old reviews to the new review site. I don’t know when that’ll launch.

https://archive.companyofmen.org/cruise

Maybe one of the moderators can be of more helpful.

As to your other inquiry…

Sadly, the guy I would suggest (lists as a masseur) is currently on hiatus. Although he’s never topped me, I have no doubt he’d be a great choice. I’ll add a link to his ad just in case by some miracle he decides to start seeing people again this week.

https://rentmasseur.com/IntimateTouch

[Marc in Calif]

21 hours ago, IronMaus said:

Oh no! I don't know where that is, what the correct link is, or how to fix it. Can someone help me with this?

I don't think you can link directly to your former Daddy's reviews, so that would be a question to ask the mods.

The only way I can find your page is by going to the Daddy's review archive:

https://archive.companyofmen.org/cruise

1. On the map that's displayed, select USA.
2. Select California and then Northern California.
3. Click By Name and then enter Sherman in the Name field.
4. Select All in the drop-down menu under Active.
5. Click Find.

Your name will be the only one that shows up in the search. Click your name to see your reviews page. Then ask the mods here if there's some way you can link to this specific page!

[jeezifonly]

I imagine deposits are waived, as a professional curtsy 

[+ tassojunior]

I think some number of the "collaborations" with big stars are actually paid for instead. There's a number of 2nd guys I see in them who do not advertise the ppv on their own site. Why would a top guy with 100K followers share a video with a guy with only a few followers to help him make his site profitable (at the big stars' expense) ? Better to just pay the other guy and keep the copyright and all profits. OTOH, some smaller guys may well pay a top star for a collab to become popular plus let them use the ppv too. Having your link in a collab to a major star's 100K subscribers can get a new guy a lot of new subscribers fast. 

[+ glycine]

I'm an occasional provider but a way more frequent client

[Jason Dutch]

I hired another provider once, when I was getting back in the game after 7 years away and everything had changed. We spent most of the time talking and he provided so many useful insights. We did fuck but that just happened kind of naturally after the clock had run it’s course, and we remain very good friends now. 
 

I personally provide a 50% discount to other escorts and have done the same for older gentlemen who disclose that they were hustlers back in the day. These connections almost always occur outside of the traditional hiring sites.
 

One utterly annoying phenomenon is guys who make RM pages or ads, or create a half assed fans page so they can demand free or discounted sex from genuine sex professionals. There’s one guy who is bordering on stalker territory who reached out saying he was “getting back into escorting” and wanted to build out his contacts list of other escorts who would be game for duo appointments. It became obvious that he wasn’t actually working, or had done it once or twice ages ago… so I declined. Then he has harassed me trying to meet up for free sex for years, and also made numerous catfish client accounts trying to direct me into having a “three way” with him. 

[Jamie21]

I don’t hire other providers but I do arrange sessions with them if they’re up for that because I like to share ideas and talk with them about the work. It’s networking really. It provides an opportunity to talk with someone who understands sex work from a similar perspective. I find that only those who have done the job can really understand it.
If the other guy has an Onlyfans or similar then the meet is also a collaboration and we film it for content. 

[domonkasshu160]

I like @Jaime21 ideas.  I wish more new guys in LA had this mentality.  I have hired some new guys and some that just weren't experienced and wanted them to hire or go try some of the better veterans around so that they know what the clients expect.