Jamie21

Most clients contact by text or WhatsApp but some (especially older ones) like to call and have a conversation. It’s fine, I answer them if I’m able to but many times I’m not free to take a call. Clients are reluctant to leave a message on my voicemail so I can’t call them back (and I wouldn’t do so anyway without their agreement to receive a return call). So whilst it’s fine to make a call as the initial contact I’d advise clients to text first because many guys wouldn’t or can’t answer, especially if it’s from a withheld number. If you text and agree a time to call then it’s more likely he’s able to answer it. I really don’t like discussing services with clients whilst I’m on the train or in a social situation and I’m sure I’m not unusual in that.

Yes, the massage porn is generally more explicit. The massage work is much more intimate and erotic. It is possible to make massage films that are true to the private in person massage experience but the market for that kind of movie is I think smaller than the kind of films I make which are basically a massage that ends up with someone getting fucked lol.

I have an Onlyfans and a JustforFans, although I don’t promote my ‘in person’ massage work on the fans sites and on my RentMasseur profile and massage website I don’t mention the fans sites. I try to keep them both separate because I think it’s mostly a different market. However some clients have found the fans sites and made the connection, and some guys who subscribe on the fans sites have booked massages with me. I don’t mind that but overall I think the porn films I make aren’t really reflective of the massage work if that makes sense.

I really don’t think you’re in a position to assert this. Of course you’re entitled to have an opinion and to share it…but I’ll challenge it. I think you’re making a lot of misguided assumptions about the motivations of escorts and sex workers. Until you’ve done the job I don’t think you can expect your opinion on the motivations and actions of sex workers to have as much credibility as those who actually do the work. I do the work and I can say that the physical characteristics of the client is irrelevant. That’s the skill of the job; finding attraction in anyone, and those that work in the business know it.

I’m not bothered what names we attach to it but what I do care about is the interesting and respectful debate about topics we have a shared interest in. If we weren’t interested in sex work (from either side of the perspective: hirer or provider) then we wouldn’t be here. What keeps me here is the different perspectives of people who share my interests (plus it’s good for business of course!). I like that there are a range of opinions and that on the whole people who participate debate the subject rather than resort to ad hominem criticism. I don’t engage on Twitter for example because it rapidly descends into personal abuse. On here that doesn’t happen so much, probably because it’s well administered and I think the participants feel a sense of ownership. That’s extremely valuable! Worth looking after and nurturing.

I’ve had a client do that to me! He was about to be rimmed…but then that happened and I decided probably best not to rim him.

Did he sing Ring Of Fire as your hand disappeared?

He cums 3 times. You’ll get another message.

It’s the human spirit to explore and push boundaries. We wouldn’t have survived without that drive. It’s also the human spirit to empathise with the people stuck in that sub. Imagine what you would feel if you were down there. You’d also hope that someone would try to rescue you. If they are saved then I’m sure they’ll be grateful and will compensate those who save them. If they don’t do that then they’ll deserve contempt. When we start deciding who deserves saving and who doesn’t then we’re on a very slippery slope. Who decides where that line is drawn? That’s also what makes us human: compassion.

Agree, doing it part time is also real life, and I mean as a source of income not as a bit of a side hustle. The important thing is that sex work is a clear choice and it is approached professionally by the guy. Maybe the OP meant ‘providers who are very successful in a more mainstream field’ rather than ‘in real life’?

Yes! Except I get clients asking for a ‘masseuse’ for a 4 hands with me when they really mean another masseur. If I didn’t check it with them and turned up with a female 4 hands partner I think they’d be a bit surprised!!

Ah ok, but I don’t draw the line at 10. I was using it figuratively as a rough guide. My opinion doesn’t suddenly switch when the client sends the 11th text! It slowly develops as the texts increase in number…and always in context of course. To clients yes this is fun, and it is to me too (or else I wouldn’t do the job, and of course a fun experience is part of what I’m hoping to offer) but it is also work and so that means there needs to be some ways of working around it otherwise you find you’re not making a living. One has to try and minimise the transactional part of course but it’s not possible to eliminate it.

I can’t speak for your location…you might need to travel to find what you’re looking for but I’m sure it exists…it doesn’t appear that you’re looking for a unicorn. Yes BFE stands for boyfriend experience. My suggestion is to contact those you like, but only if their profile looks professional: quality pics, well written bio, they might have a website, rates are not too cheap, their RM profile has some recommendations, they’ve been around a while etc. Contact them directly and be clear about what you want and when. Don’t assume a lack of instant response is disinterest. It’s likely he’s busy. And beware of the guys who are only interested in talking to you if you’re booking for ‘now’. A decent guy will engage if you’re looking for tomorrow or next week. If you want a group session find a guy you like, see him on his own first and if that goes well ask him if he works with others. You’ll probably get a better session and it will be easier to schedule if you let him work with someone he knows.

This answers the question perfectly. Choose the right provider and you won’t feel rejected or judged you’ll feel accepted and valued.

Please list all the other reasons 😂😂😂😂😂

I was surprised when clients said to me that they liked my voice. My website has a demo video in which I speak (only a little) but it’s something that quite a few clients said they liked. I’d never considered it to be a thing but it’s a pleasant surprise that there are those who like my voice or my accent. So now I play on my British accent 😉

You’d think so wouldn’t you, but I believe it’s much less common than you’d expect. In the first instance it’s very difficult to separate the two different styles. If you’re offering strictly therapeutic style massage you definitely can’t blur the lines with clients without risking your license. I know that therapeutic masseurs can also be quite critical of sensual masseurs because they think we demean their profession, by association. Also the techniques are quite different, so sensual or erotic massage requires skills that you’d never learn from doing therapeutic massage. There’s also the question of advertising and having a separate number etc for therapeutic clients vs sensual clients and a different pricing structure. I think you’d begin to question why you’re doing a therapeutic massage for less than half the money you’d earn doing a sensual massage. So I believe that the parallel career of a sensual masseur is more likely to be escort or an Onlyfans performer rather than a therapeutic masseur. Certainly that’s what I do and I know many other masseurs who are similar.

Rigid?? Really? When I said ‘can be’ and ‘depending’! And a red flag is just that. Red flags are indicative of a problem not definitive of one. A whole series of red flags? Yes that’s a problem. I’ve engaged in thousands of enquiries whilst doing this job. I think my data on what constitutes a red flag is quite robust now 😉.

He’s probably an escort who supplements his income as an attorney. Both jobs involve fucking clients.

All of those I know who do sex work (and this includes me) are doing it because they choose to, not because they have to. They’re intelligent, successful, interesting people. I’ve found that if you’re successful in one field it’s possible to take learnings from that and bring them to sex work and be successful there too. Similarly with guys I’ve met whilst making porn. They’re invariably intelligent switched on people doing it because they enjoy it and are good at it. If you don’t enjoy the work you really won’t last long doing it.

I reject quite a lot of appointments because they’re last minute requests. I swear some people think I don’t do anything else except wait for their call!

Probably because everyone likes to fuck a tax guy 😉.

First time bottom at 50…what’s taken you so long? Pick an older versatile guy. Regardless of his size he will know how to break you in, and if he’s vers he’ll know what feels good and what feels less good.

>10 texts…yes it’s a red flag, not necessarily an ‘ignore’ but it still indicates you’re going to spend hours of unpaid time in responding to him. That kind of wears you down after a while. I have one potential client who has been messaging with questions, observations, requests, pics etc for 4 years on and off. On 3 occasions he’s actually booked a session only to send a message a day or so before the session with some ‘excuse’ to cancel (Covid is a good one). I know 99% for sure he won’t ever get up the courage to book. I’ve even told him that he shouldn’t open this Pandora’s box unless he’s absolutely sure he wants to explore. Yes, >10 texts can be a red flag especially depending on how the conversation progresses. I’d say almost all the information one needs is on my website so anyone asking lots of questions either hasn’t read it or is undecided.

Half as good as I feel about 30 minutes 😉