Jamie21

These things become blurred. I have worked as both escort and masseur and it’s very difficult to say definitively what is or isn’t included in each type of session. I advertise on RentMasseur and other massage themed sites and certainly all my sessions involve massage (preferably done on a table etc) so I describe myself as a masseur. It’s my intention is to give a really great sensual massage (definitely not a rub and tug) but clients do ask about the inclusion of sex in the massage (either as top or bottom) and it does happen. I know escorts who will set boundaries in their escort session, and I have done the same. Every person working as a sex worker will have things that they are comfortable to include and things they aren’t. The important thing is for clients to ask, and providers to answer clearly so that everyone has the right expectations.

Grindr was 99% time wasters, I don’t use it anymore. I think I had it for about two years until they banned me from it! Which although it was annoying at the time I’m now glad of it because I waste my time in other ways (hello Instagram and Twitter) these days… I got endless requests for pics of my cock, questions about how big it is and whether I could accom. After a while on there you get to see a pattern of behaviour. And if course if you’re in the same location you see the same headless torsos on your ‘grid’. The times it was useful was if you were in a new town. Then you’d get hit on as ‘fresh meat’ by everyone looking for novelty. I had some good hookups when travelling. Many of the Grindr ‘conversations’ ended up with questions about hiring me for massage and that’s where it became a problem because of course Grindr prohibits solicitation. I didn’t initiate those questions but as soon as you respond with a link to your professional website or RentMasseur profile then the risk is someone complains. So I got banned. Which, was a blessing because any clients I did get from Grindr weren’t very reliable.

The Lizzy line (Elizabeth line) is fantastic. Very quick. It can deliver a client from Heathrow to my massage studio near Tottenham Court Road station in under 40 minutes….just saying 😉…

Ah the perils of a shared language with different words! Vest is 🎽… something I’d wear at the gym. I saw a client from the US recently where another clothing misunderstanding happened. He arrived and we are talking before the massage begins…I asked him if he’d like to shower before the massage? He says “yes”, so if that’s the case I usually ask the client to strip down to his underwear and then show him to the bathroom. There’s a good reason why I don’t want them to undress in the bathroom but we won’t bother with that here…I’m just wearing my shorts at this point. On this occasion I said “ok John if you just want to strip down to your pants I’ll show you through to the bathroom”. John takes off his shirt and then just stands there. I assume he’s nervous or something so I ask him if he has any injuries etc while I busy myself preparing the table and oil, trying to be as calming and routine as possible so that he feels comfortable to strip to his underwear….but John simply stands there shirtless, waiting for me to take him to the bathroom. I then say to him again “ok if you did want to use the bathroom please just leave your pants on and I’ll show you the shower”…..but he continues to stand there looking confused at me, making no attempt to remove his trousers. And I stand there looking confused at him….is he too shy to just be in pants with me?…should I get naked to help make him comfortable? Does he want me to undress him (actually that’s something I do…great way to start!)… Then I realise…he is in ‘pants’ because in US English ‘pants’ are trousers 👖 whereas here in UK they’re underwear 🩲…. 🙄…Turns out he wasn’t shy about stripping down atall, just confused by my language. Should have gone all cockney on him and said “alright mate let’s get a butchers at ya pins then we can get you in the khazi”….

Most clients like me to start in shorts and a vest or T shirt. Part way through I remove the top. Then usually they like to feel me through the shorts or jock. Then by about half way through I’m naked. If you want body to body then it’s best to be completely naked, although I usually leave my socks on because that’s a thing…

Not in as many words. But their behaviour has definitely implied it.

“You’re just a sex worker so it doesn’t matter if I flake on you, waste your time and treat your service like it’s something trivial” BUT “if I turn up then you’d better be totally professional and give me a great service or I’ll give you a bad review”. Guys, you get the providers you deserve. Treat them like shit?…then don’t be surprised if they behave in ways that are transactional at best. Treat people with respect for their time and efforts and you’ll get providers that are in it to do a great job. 95% of my clients are the latter, they’re great, but a few are the former although they generally don’t get through to a booking. They’re easy to identify from the first contact and I simply don’t deal with them.

Personally I’m fine with details of extras being included in the review but in some instances it could be difficult for the masseur (as in where selling sexual services is against the law or where the masseur is working in a spa setting). What generally happens is clients ask me what kind of services are included in the massage and I think that works quite well. As for the use of a table, some clients are really ok with receiving the massage on a bed. I offer to bring a table to an outcall but sometimes if the client is staying in a hotel where the room is small or they simply want to be really discreet then they prefer that I don’t bring a table. So I think it should be possible for the client to say they chose a bed or floor massage. It can still be a great sensual massage experience even if a table wasn’t used.

Yes, usually I recommend a 1 hour session first time. Best to do that first time just in case you don’t like me (I hope that’s not the case!).

My rate reduces slightly for a longer session. The two hour rate is slightly less than double the 1 hour rate. Why? I prefer to do a longer session than an hour, the preparation time etc is same for an hour as it is for two. It’s more efficient for me to see one two hour client than to see two one hour clients. So I price it accordingly to encourage them to trade up to 90m or 2 hours.

That’s a slippery slope. Once you come down because it’s that or nothing it normalises it, for you and the client. Next time he books the client expects same rate. So I never discount.

I don’t see that dynamic. Many of my clients book weeks in advance. They always seem to turn up. I think there’s other stronger signals that someone isn’t going to turn up.

I think people are muddling up price and value. If my perception of value of something is higher than the sellers then I’m likely to pay the asking price. If it’s less than the sellers then I’ll ask for a discount. Everyone has a different perception of value. I pay tax on my income! His Majesty’s Revenue & Customs is very happy to call sex work real work.

Massage therapy! It works not only on the body but also the head and the heart. Truly holistic 🙂

Definitely. I consider that for many clients it’s not the sexual activity that really matters it’s just having someone’s body close to you, some human touch, interaction and a chat and a smile. It’s actually a human necessity, like water, oxygen and food.

It is quite a lot, obviously he enjoys it. 5 of those sessions were with just me and 2 of them were with me and another masseur (a different guy each time) so there was a bit of variety. I also vary my routine so that it doesn’t get too familiar yet still keeps the essence of why he comes back for more (that’s a delicate balancing act). You have to keep things interesting and fresh, even if someone is booking weekly.

OMG…I have one of those. Can’t be the same guy because you and I are on different continents…but maybe my client is his brother or something. He texts every day. At first it was endearing, then it was mildly irritating, then I had to say to him…‘please no more texts!’…we can talk at your session’…but he still sent occasional texts.. I think he’s lonely.

It varies. Some of my regular clients return annually (they live abroad usually). A recent regular has had 7 sessions in the past 3 months. Most of my regulars come between 4 and 6 months. I think it’s important to keep things fresh, especially with sensual massage.

It sometimes happens, not really on technique but just because they’re inexperienced and want to see if they like being with a guy. It’s a way of safely exploring their sexuality. I’m not asked for a score out of 10 afterwards though (nor would I give one). If they enjoyed themselves and got something out of it then great. Sometimes I’ll notice that a client struggles to relax (some people overthink things) so I will make suggestions about how to switch off and just ‘go with the flow’ but I would never critique someone’s sucking technique or anything like that. If they came for massage training (I do one to one classes) then yes I’d give feedback and tips, because that’s part of what they’re coming for. I use a volunteer to be the practice body and I brief that person to give the learner feedback too. I think if they’re coming for a training session then they’d expect to learn things but if they’re coming just to enjoy a sensual massage then it’s best my client leaves feeling great about themselves.

This 100%. If you’re enjoying yourself when you book with me then I’m definitely into you. A virtuous circle. Don’t hire guys who are monetising their sex life. Those are the ones who ask for pics etc.

Oh that’s awkward. At least he told you. I once turned up at an outcall and the guys wife and daughter were there. We go into the room he wanted to do the massage in and his daughter was playing in there. He said to me “don’t worry she’ll go upstairs with her mother”. Throughout the massage I could hear them upstairs. I asked him if he was ok with this and checked that he knew it was a sensual massage (happy ending style, done naked etc) and he confirmed yes all ok. He didn’t even lock the door to the room we were in. I felt quite uncomfortable but as I was there and he seemed fine with it all I went ahead but it wasn’t the most relaxing session (for me at least). He seemed to enjoy it. Paid me a nice tip. Honestly you meet all sorts of people doing this work, I’m constantly surprised.

You know how to suck, j/o, make out with a guy. You know where your cock goes if you want to top him…obviously! So I’d argue you already know how to top a guy, you don’t need to go to a provider to learn it (although I’m available if needed 😂). Being a good top is exactly the same as being a good giver of BJ, kissing or j/o…it’s about being aware of his reactions to what you do and making sure he’s having as much fun as you are. You do that when kissing or sucking him so do same while topping him.

Fabulous…try it.

I do. It’s a natural reaction. Some clients like to touch (or do more) others don’t interact much. It doesn’t matter to me, it’s their massage and my focus is on them and doing what they like.

This has been covered a lot elsewhere, ad nauseam…..but let’s dive in again because new red flags crop up occasionally. Mine are (from the providers perspective) - Endless chat. I have one guy who crops up every few months ‘hi what’s your rate’…’hi can I suck you during the massage’…’where are you’…’how does it work’.. It’s gone on for 5 years. He’ll never book. - Cock pics. Honestly I’ve seen every type of cock. Yours might be lovely but I really don’t care until it visits me ok? - Calls from excited husbands (who are self pleasuring during the call) to book a surprise massage for their partner or wife….”she’d like you to fuck her”… No mate she wouldn’t appreciate that and I’m not doing surprises, goodbye. - A text or message from clients who can’t type more than one word: ‘service’ or ‘massage’ or ‘rates?’. If he can’t be bothered to form a sentence how’s he going to be bothered to visit? - Any enquiry that is ‘hey are you free now / in next half hour’. No, sorry I’m not free at short notice. If you don’t want me to prepare properly you’re probably not visiting for the right reasons. Have a wank it will be cheaper. - The phrase “I’ll definitely book” used during the conversation about services etc. It actually means ‘I’ll definitely think about definitely booking’. The interaction by chat and the booking in their head is all that will ever happen. 90% of clients are fabulous. None of those red flags happen. The other 10% however could take up > 50% of the time if you let them however from experience the red flags are so obvious that you can just cut them off quickly.