Jamie21

Could it be that there isn’t a way of doing that? It’s like saying ‘I really enjoy meeting you….but not so much that I’d do it without compensation’. Kind of awkward when the liaison started out as no conditions on either party. If it starts like that, and both are willing then it’s very difficult to change the terms later on! I think there’s good reasons for having a very clear line between work and hookups / liaisons that you do for fun. When it becomes blurred as in that situation you described someone is likely to get hurt or upset. It’s certainly not easy to do, because one or the other (work / non work sex) tends to get prioritised to the detriment of the other, but I think it is important to try and keep them apart for the sake of one’s own and other’s feelings.

You can’t please everyone @Jarrod_Uncut, some people just behave weirdly in this industry. It’s futile to try and change other people. I think the solution is to change one’s own perspective of the situation. At least 50% of requests I receive go nowhere because calendars don’t align, clients think I’m based somewhere other than where I am or the price isn’t right or some other reason (often they’re just asking because they like the idea of a session but can’t get their head around actually going ahead with it). Some ask questions and then disappear off the face of the earth…not even an ‘thanks but not for me’. All sorts of weird stuff happens such that I simply stop trying to understand or please everyone. If an enquiry turns into a session that’s great, if it doesn’t that’s great too. I get enough business so it’s fine by me.

The challenge with this kind of work is that the opposite situation becomes an issue. What I mean is when you hookup with someone recreationally you can’t help thinking “I’d have charged x for that”…. at least that happens to me and I end up avoiding hookups or regular fuck buddies. For example I have passed up on opportunities for casual fun because I know that tomorrow I have clients and I want to keep my energy for them. It does kind of ruin your sex life!

Hey I loved that comment from my client! As he said it he pulled out a big wad of notes and peeled a few off to pay me. I imagined he was then going to meet his dealer (if there’s a stereotype of someone who’s off to meet his dealer my client certainly wasn’t that….he looked more like he was heading to church on a Sunday!). Great idea. My pricing is on a separate page that clients seem unable to find. I think I’ll put all the ‘deal breakers’ on the home page: Rates, location, availability. So many times the arrangements have progressed a little only for the client to say ‘oh that’s out of my budget’…or, ‘Oh you’re in London? I thought you were in xxx (usually some obscure corner of their home city or town in the US??)’.

Yes it is a fact, absolutely! But some people believe the earth is flat so there’s that…. Dolly is the savviest business person there is, and the most generous benefactor 😍

So sad. He was brilliant. Dame Edna and Sir Les were genuinely fabulous creations.

I think there’s a strong case for some kind of Preferred Client membership club, where we can admit clients who have been pre vetted to ensure that they are suitable to be clients (or in other words aren’t time wasters 🙂). I’m working on the following idea… Dear <name of potential client> Thank you for applying for membership of Provider Prime (just $99 per month!). Approved members (and their members…) will enjoy premium access to our list of exclusive top quality providers, preferential rates, exclusive services and many more benefits including more explosive cum shots, deeper penetration and fluffy towels. Applicants are requested to complete the following steps: 1) Provider Prime undertakes a credit check using credit reference agencies. Please provide your full name and address history for the past 20 years. NO GAPS. 2) Provider Prime takes the safety and security of our providers seriously. Please supply the name and address of two referees (not related to you) who have known you for at least 5 years. One of the referees must be a professional (minister of religion, accountant, doctor, lawyer…your psychiatrist is not acceptable). Please answer the following questions by scoring 1 to 5 where 1 is ‘totally agree, 2 is ‘somewhat agree’, 3 is ‘neutral’, 4 is ‘somewhat disagree’ and 5 is ‘totally disagree’ 1. I shower every day. 🔲🔲🔲🔲🔲 2. I have traveled to more than 2 countries (excluding Canada) 🔲🔲🔲🔲🔲 3. Slip on shoes are not acceptable wear in any situation 🔲🔲🔲🔲🔲 4. A Cappuccino can never be ordered in the afternoon 🔲🔲🔲🔲🔲 5. Dolly Parton’s version of ‘I will always love you’ was much better than Whitney’s (Dolly wrote the song FFS!) 🔲🔲🔲🔲🔲 Please send this form with your remittance for the $499 processing fee to the address at the bottom. Please allow 2 weeks for your application for Provider Prime to be processed. Unsuccessful applicants will not be informed. Application fees are non refundable. Provider Prime reserves the right to vary services. Multiple orgasms, ceiling hitting cum shots, ass destroying penetration and the fluffiness of towels is not guaranteed.

Yes, I do this for a few clients. Usually those who struggle with premature ejaculation. One particular client would climax after 10 minutes laying on his front on the table (all I’d done was some head massage). So we agreed we would start his sessions with me giving him a bj. Then he can relax into it and build up to cum again towards the end of the massage.

Sometimes clients are a bit naive about rates, so the price comes as a surprise and then they say they can’t afford it. It’s just part of the business, I don’t mind them saying ‘sorry it’s more than I can / want to pay’ as long as they ask the price question early in the conversation. It’s very irritating when you agree a time / date and services etc and he asks ‘how much?’. I’ve assumed he’s read my website and has decided the price is fine…why get so far as to setting a time and the content etc only to decide you can’t afford it?

They’re great fun (with the right crowd) but yes you do need to be comfortable with being watched 🙂

Coconut oil, grapeseed oil, sunflower oil, or massage creams. Those are the main options. People also want to know if it’s scented (some clients prefer unscented … for discretion).

Important considerations for masseurs are: - what oil does he use (this reveals those using baby oil who aren’t really masseurs!) and is important because some clients have allergies to nut based oils. - out calls with a table (another indicator of level of professionalism) - does he accept payment by credit card as well as cash

A good option is to try group sex at a sex party. If I’m at a party the groups tend to break off into 3’s for some reason. I mean there will be lots of guys in a room but if you watch it tends to be mostly multiple groups of 3 playing together. People move between the groups. When you’ve had enough in one group you move to another. I think this is because 4’s tend to split into a two, any number more than 4 tends to focus on one recipient (say a guy getting gang banged). So 3 seems to work best for everyone to feel fully involved. At a party you can try lots of different guys in groups of 3 to see what you like best! That’s why I prefer parties for group sex rather than setting a 3some up.

Lots of people giving advice here, risks you having all sorts of expectations. I’d say don’t overthink it or have unrealistic expectations about how it ‘should’ feel. There’s no right or wrong group sex experience. Sometimes it’s great, sometimes it isn’t. If I think about why that is, it’s usually because of my expectations about the event beforehand.

The top vers guy and the bottom vers guy will both turn out to be bottoms. Be prepared for that 😉

I notice that with American clients. It’s legal here (in UK) to sell sexual services so if you’re speaking with a British or European masseur feel free to ask for whatever you like. If he’s advertising as a sensual or erotic masseur you’re not likely to offend him.

The next one won’t be so long…

London has it all (including me….but don’t hold that against it). Anything is possible here, and we’re going to crown a King next month. That’ll be fun 🙂

Yeah I’m now married to the client 😂

Actually there is a context where I have done this. I do training in sensual massage for people who want to learn massage and either become a sensual masseur or to learn techniques to use on their partner. For this training I use a volunteer body for me to demonstrate on and for the trainee to practice on (under my guidance). Those practice body’s get a free massage …albeit one which is a bit ‘stop start’ and where the trainee may not be very good. The practice body is asked to provide feedback to the trainee. But as @arnemgreeves says the feedback is about how it feels from a sensual perspective more than a therapeutic perspective. I don’t need someone who is a licensed health care provider. Nor do I want someone who is just looking for a free massage. I expect the volunteer body to approach it properly… it’s not a group sex opportunity (which some think it is unfortunately).

It’s kind of how I started. Not in an ‘I’m desperate for money way’ but in an ‘I’m intrigued to see what happens’ way. It was in a casual conversation with a friend, who suggested that I could sell what I had. I was naive and didn’t get what he meant at first, until he said ‘charge guys for sex’. I’d never even considered the possibility up to then…it just wasn’t something I thought I could do. First time a guy hired me my friend helped with the set up. I was chatting on Grindr with a guy who had initiated the conversation. There was no pic of him or anything but he was keen to meet. I played cool, but kept the conversation going, with the assistance of my friend who was with me. After a lot of chat the Grindr guy asks me ‘what will it take?’. I then had a long discussion with my friend about the rate…I had no clue. He suggested a number that was 4x what I was thinking: “just ask for that…what could happen? He says ‘no’?”. So I asked and the Grindr guy agrees. A street name is given, with instructions to stand outside house number x and wait for him to message me. I guess he was watching for me when I turned up because sure enough after standing there for a few minutes (trying to look innocuous yet sexy at the same time) I get the message…’walk to house x and knock’. I walk there, knock and almost immediately the door opens and he invites me in. He’s a little older than I expected and short (one has a picture in one’s mind with these anonymous chats that never seems to match the reality). The guy tells me we have an hour as his wife is home later. I kind of want to be there naked on the bed when she turns up (is that bad of me?) but I say ok and follow him to the kitchen (I think is it going to happen in the kitchen?). He gets us some water and says ok let’s go to the bedroom. Like a puppy I follow him there. Let’s say I wasn’t very good (looking back, in hindsight! and knowing what I know now….) but he was very happy with the service and paid me. I think he knew it was my first time being hired. Suddenly a whole new world opened up. Walking back to the train station afterwards everything seemed different. I didn’t do any more sex work for a few years but it planted the seed for tackling it in a more professional way later.

There’s a party scene here that eats people up and spits them out. I think maybe some of them (those who are maybe a bit naive or innocent) enjoy it too much and get exploited. Not just Brazilians. Very sad.

Definitely no drugs. Definitely be clean (as in showered). These things aren’t unusual or especially controversial.

I used to be on Grindr. Some of my pics were of me doing massage. I’d get asked by guys for massage (even though I was not advertising). However I did direct them to my massage website, since they asked. Someone must have complained to Grindr and my profile was suspended. I cancelled it after that because it became such a time waster.

Ha ha 22 was years ago!