Jamie21

I have a tried and tested (iteratively) address message that I give to clients. Most find me. A few get lost and then it’s a case of messaging on WhatsApp…”where are you?, what can you see?” as I try to understand where they have got themselves to. I think people unfamiliar with London get confused easily. I describe my place as being close to Tottenham Court Road station, which is very central in London but I had one client see the word Tottenham and assume that I was in that part of town (if you know London you’ll know it’s a totally different area and much less central). He said ‘North London?’. I said ‘no, it’s central’ but he didn’t respond after that. I guess he put Tottenham into Google maps and decided ‘no thanks!’. These days with smartphones and online maps it’s much more difficult to get lost than it used to be. It’s usually the last 50 metres that’s the difficult bit.

I’m not sure it’s an addiction, but I think there is a risk of becoming reliant on it. Either because the monetary rewards can be good (although unreliable), or because one becomes accustomed to having clients validate you. It’s like being an actor who craves the audience applause. Having clients leave happy and come back regularly for me is a great boost to the self esteem!

I think you probably are. You won’t get him to respond to questions like that. He’s focused on your pleasure. Anyone doing this work with any degree of success will be able to give you the impression he’s also enjoying it, to the extent that you wouldn’t be able to tell whether that’s genuine or not. Also, one of the main reasons guys do this work is because being hired is a turn on in itself. Simply by you hiring him, and enjoying what he does for you is what gets him going. I know that’s the case for me, if a client is having a great time then that is exciting for me. The more my client is enjoying himself then the more I enjoy it. Clients ask ‘do you like x or y or whatever’ and the answer is ‘if it turns you on to do it then yes I like it’ (within reason of course!). So I think you’ll find it futile to ask what he likes, because you won’t get an answer. The best way to feel that he’s enjoying it is to relax and enjoy yourself. You’re the client after all.

Definitely. They’re very strict about anything sexual. My ad got refused. I’m thinking in this context ‘intuitive’ means ‘I’ll intuitively get you hard and I’ll intuitively deal with it’…

If you’re only monetising your sex life it probably won’t work. Clients will see through that. You’ll need to offer more than “I’m available to get fucked”. Clients want to feel that you’re interested in their pleasure just as much as it’s fun for you. So I’d suggest if you can get that mindset and approach it will work sustainably.

Yes massage can vary a lot. Some of my clients like the massage to include bdsm elements like smacking, use of a paddle on their ass, cock and ball slapping and torture, mixing in light touch with feathers and brushes etc. But I think the key is variety and surprise. Will the next touch be sensual or dominant? Where will it be? Having your balls randomly tickled, licked or slapped is extremely erotic to many.

If I’m doing an out call to a client’s hotel, and it’s a good hotel then I dress, and walk in, as if I own the place. Especially if I happen to be carrying my massage table. If it’s an out call to a cheap hotel…well that doesn’t happen…so it’s moot 🙂. If they’re coming to me then I dress provocatively, or as requested. This strategy seems to work.

I think it’s that with massage I use my body weight to generate pressure, and whilst I use fingers some of the time I also mix in use of heel of hand, forearms, elbows etc so it’s not all hand work whereas with tickling it’s just all hand work, or it felt that way. My hands got tired. Also I think it was mentally tiring because it’s not something I normally do so I was thinking a lot. When I do sensual massage I do it ‘in the zone’; I’m hardly thinking…just feeling and sensing if that makes sense. I get into a flow. So for me giving massage is relaxing I find it meditative whereas doing the tickle massage was hard work both physically and mentally. I think other masseurs would say similar, hence they’d charge more.

I did a tickling session for a client one time. He wanted a tickle massage. Tickle massage isn’t in my repertoire although I offer tailored massages to suit clients requirements (if it’s something I’m reasonably comfortable to include in a massage setting….think undressing rituals, restraints, toys, wrestling kit / clothing etc). So this client asked if I could tickle him during the massage. He didn’t want to tickle back, which I was grateful for. I like interaction but am not keen on being tickled. It all sounded quite interesting and so I agreed. The client booked an hour and everything was set up. On the day he turns up and is charming, sexy and excited. He strips, I’m in my shorts, and I start in by doing some breathing and head massage to relax him. After about a minute of head massage he asks me to start the tickling. This is kind of a little sooner than I had anticipated but fine, it’s his massage so I tickle his neck. He loves it. I apply oil and do some massage strokes but he wants more tickling. So I tickle him some more, in the usual tickle places. He responds enthusiastically. After some time ticking because my hands are beginning to tire I revert to normal massage but once I’d done a few long massage strokes he asks for more tickling. Now I’m running out of tickle moves. I’ve tickled all the normal tickle parts and I’m not sure if body parts like calves or biceps are ticklish so I just start to go off piste and tickle anything. I discovered that on this client everything was ticklish except for one part….his cock, which didn’t respond at all. Expecting he’d want to get off I started to work on his cock in the more ‘traditional’ way but he just asked me to go back to the ticklish bits. Honestly I’ve never worked so hard…. Tickling someone for an hour is exhausting, and without even the prize of a load at the end (he didn’t want a release). He told me he loved the session but I must admit I found it challenging. If asked again for a tickle massage I’d have to say I can do it for about 10 minutes and mix it in to a sensual massage but I’d not do tickle only. I salute anyone who could deliver that! I think you might find a guy willing to do it but they’d probably charge more than their normal rate.

I once met a client at the Park Plaza Westminster Bridge. I turned up nice and early and texted him to say I was in the lobby (necessary because the lifts required the room key). He texted to say that he too was waiting in the lobby….where was I? I gave a detailed description. He then messaged to say he definitely couldn’t see me. Was I in the correct hotel because there’s a Park Plaza over the road….called Park Plaza County Hall and he that’s where I should be. Turned out that I was indeed in the Park Plaza Westminster Bridge…which is a different hotel. So I had to go to the other hotel. Pity because the first hotel looked nice.

Or visit London 🤪 Masseurfinder isn’t good in my opinion but that might be because they refused my profile. They seem to be quite difficult about anything remotely sexual in the advertising.

I’m on Jock2go but I don’t get much business from it. Stick to the Rent… sites. Those seem to get most traffic. You’ll need to ask for rates. I’m surprised you’re coming up empty on Rentmen. Maybe it’s the location you’re in? Or are you looking for niche requirements?

Still works for me. One of my massage videos on there is still available to view 😉 https://xhamster.com/videos/another-four-handed-massage-session-xhil4oR

I don’t think anyone would mind. As a masseur I don’t care if I’m hired because someone let you down last minute. If I’m available (and that’s the challenge…last minute bookings can rarely be accommodated because I’m usually busy) then I’m happy to accept.

Yes it’s regulated by the Porn Executive, Network Indexation Standards committee. All performers have to register their member to be measured annually. They give you a Designated Index Classification Key which is the official description of size that can be used in a porn film or when advertising your services: 7 inches is officially designated as ‘hung’, 8 is “massive” and 9 is “ass destroyer”. 10 or over is “take it out it hurts…oh no wait …ooohh yes, ram it in …fuck me senseless…..”. If you see a porn film or escort / masseur where the description is anything other than the above then you know his dick hasn’t been officially classified and it could be a 6 incher pretending to be bigger.

Whereas ExBFE is disastrous company and amazing sex.

Was thinking more Achilles and Patroclus tbh…

Insights about what clients like or look for can be helpful but that’s not why I’m here. I just find the posts amusing and interesting on the whole. I think the discourse and courtesy is better here than other forums or places like Twitter (which I avoid any interaction on…I just post porn on there 😂). I’ve picked up a little business from it, which is welcome, but the main point of it for me is amusement at the stories and at the misapprehension of some commentators about how the business works.

And that you are erudite. All we need now is a classics reference to @Coolwave35’s story.

I’m always in London. Always. I never visit other cities (for work at least). There’s no need…London has enough clients to keep me busy. My website says I’m in London, my RentMasseur says I’m in London, my other adverts say I’m in London yet….I still get clients saying “can I book an hour this evening, I’m on 21st and 3rd downtown” or whatever (sorry I’m not good on generic US addresses!). Somehow they think I’m in their town. When I realise they’re not local to me I tell them I’m in London and they seem surprised! To be fair I do think that sometimes my number has been picked up by a website that ‘collects’ sex worker numbers to make it look like a lot of people advertise on there. It could be that but my number is clearly a UK number so I still find it funny they think I’m round the corner… I’m sure that when people see someone they like then they just forget to check whether they’re local.

I participate! But I do understand the point made by @DynamicUno. There’s an element of risk that potential clients might be put off by comments or views expressed here. I’m of the opinion however that if I’m being true to myself with opinions on here then anyone who is put off by that is probably a client I don’t want to see anyway because the dynamic wouldn’t work. Everyone wins that way because I don’t want to see clients who expect something different to what I do nor do I want clients to be disappointed. I want them to love it and come back.

It’s the price to pay for the gift. There’s always one guy who somehow makes you throw all reason and rationality to the winds. With me it’s a guy I first met when I started making porn films. We were not intended to film together. I was scheduled to film with a different guy. I’d turned up a little early and was waiting for my turn. The guy running the session was talking to me about his bad back (this was a massage porn film, we’d been discussing massage techniques) and in walks one of the models for what it turns out was an earlier session (but he was over an hour late). I looked around just as he walked in. In that moment he looked at me and smiled. As he walked across the room we kept eye contact. I knew in that instant we had to film together (and evidently so did he because he told me so afterwards). Fortunately the director noticed and changed the pairing so that we’d be together. He’s chaotic, has used drugs (not now fortunately) and is totally unsuitable for any sort of relationship. The actual sex is decent but I’ve had better, but the fun with him, all the build up to sex is amazing. There’s something about him that gets me every time. I don’t hire him (he’s stopped sex work) but I have worked with him (seeing clients and doing films / shows) and we come across each other from time to time. Every time we meet something happens that I’d not do normally. We know we are totally unsuited to each other but as soon as we kiss it’s like starting a chemical reaction.

It’s life. If the wrapping is so perfect, and he knows it, he doesn’t need to try once you’re looking to go beyond admiring his appearance. I bet there’s many like you who fall for his charms. I’ve done similar. You keep looking because surely there must be something substantial behind such beauty? But you find theres’s nothing inside, it is indeed all superficial.

I see what you are saying @robear. Whilst you appear responsible unfortunately many aren’t and they’ll download all the content and upload it to free sites. Some of the films on my justforfans are available for followers to purchase by downloading them. Most of them are viewable online through the subscription. It’s my income, it costs me to make the films (I have bought cameras and lighting equipment, I pay for editing, for locations and subscriptions to sites to promote the films. Plus there’s my time. If there’s no way of me monetising the films, at least to cover the costs and my time I simply wouldn’t do it.

I don’t hire other providers but I do arrange sessions with them if they’re up for that because I like to share ideas and talk with them about the work. It’s networking really. It provides an opportunity to talk with someone who understands sex work from a similar perspective. I find that only those who have done the job can really understand it. If the other guy has an Onlyfans or similar then the meet is also a collaboration and we film it for content.