Jamie21

Maybe the solution is to keep the price the same but provide less for it? Have you noticed how some groceries or chocolates / sweets (candy for our US cousins) are getting smaller? They keep the price the same but almost imperceptibly the size of the product gets smaller… So I suggest keep your rates flat but maybe only use 80% of your dick when fucking the client? (I mean they’re still getting a lot more than average). Or in the small print of your advertising define an hour as 50 minutes? Perhaps speed up the clock in your bedroom? Maybe when massaging your client lop 20% off the length of each effleurage stroke? I think there’s lots of options to shave the service to maintain profit margins 😉. Seriously though…I don’t mean to make light of the issue @Jarrod_Uncut. I think it’s a genuine problem in this business. My rates have more or less stayed the same for 4 years. I think it’s a problem because the market is competitive and clients can be fickle. My costs have increased substantially especially recently. The worry is however that if you put up rates you’ll lose business. So you put off the increase until it becomes impossible and then you apply a big increase which clients notice. Maybe the answer is to do what many businesses do any apply an increase annually. Ultimately I think if you back the quality of what you offer then you should reflect that in the price.

Sad. Ok so an anecdote doesn’t mean it’s common…but here’s my experience of meth use. I’ve a provider friend who I’ve known for years. A beautiful intelligent and sexy guy. We met at a porn film shoot (an auspicious start!). We were not scheduled to film together but the director guy saw that we had connected so put us together. The shoot was as if a fireworks factory went up. We became friends, we saw a few clients together, did more films, had fun. Our orbits were different (I’m older, have some different interests) but as is the case in London, and in the gay scene especially, it’s a city village and we came across each other from time to time and kept in touch. We’d exchange helpful information on the business with each other (although my client base and modus operandi was a bit different to his). We’d also make recommendations of guys to film with (the Onlyfans collaboration circuit 😂) and share stories. There’s some experiences it’s better to talk about with another sex worker. Over time I became aware that he seemed to be going down a route that took in the London party scene and clients who liked PNP sessions. However he seemed to be ok with it and was having fun so I didn’t say anything. Then one time we were chatting via text and somehow ended up booking a weekend away together, as a chill out and break. We’re both kind of impulsive like that. The plan was, relax, shoot a film, eat, sight see, do random stuff. On the break I noticed he’d disappear into the bathroom for ages and he seemed to be constantly awake and slightly anxious. I didn’t ask and kind of assumed he was finding it hard to wind down. Other than that it was a nice break for both of us. A few months later I saw him and he looked like he’d aged years. He told me he’d been doing meth, including while we were away (how didn’t I notice?). He told me he realised he was on a path to destruction so he’d signed up for a course to get clean and had cut off all contacts with the circle of friends’ who’d got him into it. He asked for my help which I was happy to do. His story was that at first it was fun, and he felt he could handle it. He hid the effects of it successfully and appeared ok. Then, all of a sudden it changed and he went from ok to not ok in an instant without realising it. Fortunately he got out and is ok now but it was almost too late for him. As I said, it’s an anecdote. It’s not a controlled academic study into the impact of PNP but I thought I’d share because I saw someone who lived a beautiful life almost destroy themselves by opening a door they couldn’t close again.

That does sound like they can’t cope with it!

Wax for max smoothness. Although I do shave my balls. In the shower with foam and a razor. Works fine.

Some people can cope with it, lots can’t. I occasionally get asked but my answer is ‘no’ because I think I’d be one of those people who couldn’t cope with taking substances. I don’t even drink! Group is fine, happy to do that but once it becomes a PNP type event then I’m leaving. If you aren’t into it then best to decline

I like the ‘get acquainted’ approach. Sounds good. Most of my clients are massage clients. Those that are anxious or new to make to male experience appreciate the opportunity to treat the session as just a naked massage. That way they can tell themselves nothing need happen unless they choose it during the session. We go at their pace. I find that working with anxious or ‘exploring’ clients probably the most rewarding and interesting sessions. It’s so fulfilling when they say they had a great time. One of the best parts of the work.

Interesting topic. I’ve had clients ask me not to shower or use deodorant before their visit, and if possible to be a bit sweaty and worked out when they arrive. Also to wear pants (underwear )that have been worn for a day or so. Others ask me not to use scented massage oil but I think that’s more because they are perhaps visiting discreetly and they don’t want their partner to know. I don’t mind what the client smells like as long as it’s not cigarette smell. That’s quite off putting.

I had a client drop the key card to his room to me as I stood outside below the window of his 2nd floor hotel room. He didn’t want to be seen with me in the hotel lobby. Nor did he want the hotel staff suspecting that he was my client. I walked in with my massage table… I told him that no one would care, or notice because hotel employees have seen it all…but he still wanted the utmost secrecy around the hotel entry arrangements. @MadHatter I think you should relax a bit about being ‘caught’. It’s a private hotel room, the door is locked. If you picked a good provider (well established, good reviews, etc) and he’s being professional he’ll look after you. Tell him you’re anxious and new and he’ll make sure you’re ok.

I’m not so sure about DoxyPrep. It’s taking antibiotics when you’re not infected as a way of preventing infection. If you’re having bareback sex regularly, like every day, with different partners then you’re effectively on antibiotics constantly. Widespread use will mean the bacteria become resistant. It’s meant to be occasional for high risk events like a sex party or sex club visit where you might have bb sex with multiple partners. If you are going to have bb sex then there’s always a risk of catching something. But I’d say most providers are very responsible and aware about their sexual health. I get tested every 3 months, and have been vaccinated for things like Mpox and Hepatitis etc. It’s guys who have hookup sex randomly but who don’t get routinely tested who I think you have more chance of catching something from.

I had a client say he loved me. He invited me on holiday with him. This expression of love wasn’t made in the moment (the sessions were quite passionate I guess, I include kissing and cuddling etc) but after we’d finished and he was getting dressed which made it feel very sincere to me. He certainly made it clear about his feelings. He said he’d been thinking about me all the time between our sessions. It was very awkward and his question about the holiday caught me by surprise. I didn’t like to ask ‘do you mean you’re wanting to hire me for the holiday?’ because I’m sure he thought I had feelings too. I didn’t know what to say to him and he quickly realised from my hesitancy and surprise that he’d gone too far. Very awkward indeed. He hasn’t been back. I think with some clients it’s loneliness and lack of intimacy that brings them to hire (which is fine, it’s a good reason to hire) but then a few of them start to believe that the provider is falling for them. Being able to genuinely be intimate with a client for their session is a skill good providers have but it can be misinterpreted by someone who’s looking for more. That’s the most difficult part of the job for me. Had he left out the ‘love’ part and the ‘thinking about you all the time’ comment and just said ‘how much would you charge to come with me on holiday’ I’d have provided the rate, services, and started packing….

Me too. Most of my friends are intrigued by my job and like to ask questions. I know some of them watch my porn films. There’s some friends, or probably more accurate to call them associates or acquaintances who I’d not volunteer any information about what I do. I don’t have any shame or embarrassment about it but I think these people might be judgemental and I don’t know them well enough to gauge their reaction.

Don’t try. It’s a different product. You’d be likely to offend the masseur, and or get banned by the establishment. If you like him and get a sense he’d offer a different service then once your session is over you could ask him if he works as a masseur outside of the spa setting. That’s his opportunity to read your request and offer his other services (at a different location) if indeed that is something he offers. If it is in his repertoire he will understand and give you the necessary information. If he doesn’t do anything like sensual or erotic massage he’ll just say ‘no’.

I go to a few that are naked. But you have to wear shoes, so everyone just tucks their money in their sock. Easy.

Late night last minute requests are usually a sign of trouble. I don’t get many but I avoid them. Sorry I’m not available… However a pre-booked (> 1 day in advance) at 11pm is fine, but no later. I prefer morning bookings: 10am set the day up nicely!

Most clients who want to bottom seem to prefer or expect me to go bare. It’s the default now and isn’t even discussed. Similarly if they want to top me they go bare. I prefer it, because the feel of a condom isn’t great and the mechanics of putting it on detract from the moment (especially tearing the damn packet open when your hands are oily or covered in lube is annoyingly difficult). The consideration isn’t anything to do with the looks of the client: as others have said you can’t do the job properly if you’re bothered about whether someone might be physically unattractive. Usually if there’s challenges in getting or staying hard it’s because there’s other distractions in the room or the client doesn’t seem to be enjoying it.

This is the biggest challenge of the work. I too hate turning down business, and so many clients tend to ask ‘on the day’ as if I’m just hanging around all day waiting for the phone to ring. Then they’re disappointed I’m not available! The trouble is that although at any one time I’ll have 3 of 4 clients booked for the week or weeks ahead most of the time the bookings are short notice. Like this week on Sunday I had 1 booked for the week ahead. A quiet week. So I made plans for other things. Now on Friday evening I’ve had 5 clients this week and my alternative plans went by the wayside. It’s tough to carve out time to do things like gym, read a book or catch up on my accounts! On the other hand I like the flexibility. I like the fact that I might be with a client at 10am on a Monday morning whilst most others are in an office. You take the rough with the smooth.

Yes professional photos are worth having done. A good photographer sees things in pictures that I wouldn’t see. I’ve had a few sessions and fortunately not had to pay the photographer because we did it on a barter arrangement. If you prefer not to have to find the cash then find a photographer who is amenable to a skills exchange.

Fabulous advice. Take notice of this.

Yes I’ve had a few older clients who I’ve wondered about that happening, especially at the moment of climax! I remember one time I’d visited a client at his hotel. We were on the bed and things were reaching their climax. Almost at the point where I think he’s almost there he breathlessly says to me “oh I need my pill, can you get them for me?”. I’m surprised and it puts me off a bit (I’m concentrating to try and climax with him). I say “Where are they?” whilst keeping going. “In my jacket pocket Jamie..”. I look around and can see no jacket. He’s laying their eyes closed breathing heavily and jerking himself off. I pull out of him and look around the room for his jacket….can’t see it. I ask him “where’s your jacket Tom” (name changed for confidentiality!) but he’s so either into his jerking or out of it that he doesn’t hear me. Now I’m starting to get concerned that he needs the pill…so I see a bottle of pills on the desk (next to his phone)…it must be them so I go back to the bed and give him them “is it these?”. He doesn’t answer or look but takes the bottle, then gives it back to me asking “open it please” because all this time he hasn’t stopped jerking himself and he can’t open it with one hand. This guys going to get there or die trying. I open it, give him a pill and he pops it in (his mouth). I thank the gods silently that they’re not suppositories….”Jamie, put it on the end of your cock and slip it in…”. No that would not happen. My cock is no longer hard enough so I join him jerking. I’ve had enough drama now so I help him get there by asking him if he’d like me to cum on him. This seems to get him going more and he says “in my mouth”. It does the trick and he climaxes as I’m in his mouth (can’t feel any pill in there…it must have gone down). After a few minutes laying there to chill I feel it’s the appropriate time to ask him what the pill was for. “It’s my heart Jamie, I have a condition”. He’s still laying there, eyes closed, and alive thankfully. I look at the pill box, they’re prescription strength rheumatoid arthritis pills (I know the pill, my mum takes them). I ponder this for a while…I check he’s still breathing. “Tom, are these the right pills?” I say, giving him the bottle. “Were they in my jacket?” he asks…keeping his eyes closed but gesturing to his jacket which I’m sure has now appeared hanging on the back of a chair by the window…

It’s a nightmare scenario. Definitely not worth even entertaining. I wouldn’t know what to do if confronted with someone overdosing. I’m so naive on all that. I don’t even drink alcohol 😂 and poppers make me feel nauseous!

I do out calls but they’re mostly within London area. The reason I don’t travel much is because most clients book for an in call. Also, I’m based in the middle of a city of 10m people which has 30m visitors a year. There’s no need to travel, the world comes to London 🙂. I think also the signals you get from what’s said in a text exchange are reliable indicators of whether someone is serious or just a time waster: ’Hi I’d like to book a session on x day at x time please’ or ‘I’m interested to book, do you do x’ or ‘I’m x years old and interested in booking is this ok?’ are all unlikely to be time wasters. ’Hey’ (and nothing else), or ‘massage?’ Or a picture of his cock or ass is 99% going to be a waste of time. I’ve been working this for over 5 years. I know the busy months, weeks and days. It’s fairly predictable. A lot of clients are regular so there’s a pattern there.

Learn by trial and error, over time you get to know what works and what doesn’t do you start to stack the odds in your favour. I used to accept or engage with clients who’d turn out to be time waters. Over time I recognised the signs so that now I can tell a time waster at 1000 yards! I know where to advertise, I know the patterns: when it’s busy, when it isn’t. It’s much less of a gamble. You find a modus operandi that works, then keep tweaking.

I’ve had a few clients ask if I do PNP or if it’s ok if they take something during the session…I say ‘no, and that I’d rather they didn’t take anything stronger than use poppers’. It’s up to them what they do but I’m not having it in my session. A friend who also works in the business got into using crystal meth. I first met him when he was newly into making porn and escorting. We connected and I made a few films with him and saw a few clients with him. We had a lot of fun both working and socially. Then he got into drugs and I saw his decline from someone beautiful with a sweet heart to someone who aged 10 years in a single year, looking awful and behaving strangely. Fortunately he’s escaped the trap now, and is getting back to his real self but he stopped escorting because he said it brought him into contact with drugs. I’m surprised by that because it’s not my experience but I think the whole scene he was involved in (parties etc) was the problem.

Yes, most likely explanation is they got off on the chat. Once they short their load they weren’t interested any more. Lots of guys have some kind of internalised shame about their sexual urges. Once they’ve cum the shame resurfaces resulting in this change of behaviour. Best avoid those types if possible.

That’s so bad. I mean just sooooo shit of them. I’m sorry for you. That kind of behaviour isn’t a peeve it’s a big flapping red flag with flashing warning lights. Stuff can happen that prevents one from fulfilling a commitment but to just be silent and then come up with some lame excuse last minute is unprofessional in the extreme. It strikes me that these guys who you scheduled with view their clients as suckers who they can mess around with impunity. There’s an arrogance and dismissive attitude in their behaviour which probably is evident if you did actually get to meet them. In that respect you might consider it a lucky escape.