Jamie21

Yes, if they’re both involved in the session. If one just wants to watch (it happens, some guys like watching) then I don’t charge extra.

I’d say it’s more likely for the price to go up if the client is difficult or unreliable more than if they’re older or not in great shape. Certainly I’m not bothered about age or shape and that never affects the price. Everyone pays the same. However, I do find clients who are disrespectful, unreliable (flaky) or not clean more difficult to see and so those people, if they come back, will attract a higher rate. Call it an ‘asshole premium’. Usually when I tell them the rate for their next visit they change their mind. Job done 🙂

I’m sure it happens because I know clients of mine who see other guys that I know, in some instances I have recommended them. I’ve also had other providers I know contact me about a client to ask if they’re genuine (as in reliable to turn up) because the client had mentioned he’d seen me. In a couple of those it was because the client had seen us both together in videos. Other times it’s because I get enquiries about 4 hands so I send the client the details of the guys I do that with. There’s a line though that one doesn’t cross whether it’s discussing other providers with clients or clients with providers and that’s details about their identity or their performance. People’s confidentiality is sacrosanct, so is their self esteem. I only say positive things if asked “would x be good?”. I’m happy to share if a client was flaky or wanted to negotiate on price but that’s it. What someone likes doing etc is not for me to share because it’s up to each individual (provider or client) to decide whether the other person is good for them.

Never works for me. My rates clear (no legal need to be coy about it here) and if the client wants a reduction on that it’s a “no” regardless of their reason. Negotiating on rates always ends up disappointing one party to the deal so why start the arrangement like that? If they want something that isn’t advertised then fine, make a proposal to me, but I usually find in those instances the client wants me to quote first.

I’ve been on prep for about 4 years. It’s now just natural to not use a condom and most guys I know don’t use them. Most clients I see don’t use them. If I go to a sex party (not often, maybe a few times a year) no one uses a condom. Prep has changed attitudes, on the whole I think for the good. I’m aware of the risks of other sexually transmitted infections… because catching something can affect my business but more importantly my health, therefore I get tested every month. I think if you are having bareback sex then it’s imperative to get tested regularly.

No decent provider will have any expectations of your performance. Honestly it doesn’t matter to them if you don’t stay hard long or you don’t shoot all over the place. What really matters is you’re a nice guy who turns up and enjoys himself. I do find it useful to know if you don’t cum when you orgasm, or if you might not get there (although I see that as a challenge ha ha). But none of this is of much importance to me as long as I can tell that you’re enjoying yourself….and if you are then I am too. Last week I saw a client who doesn’t cum when he orgasms - medical reasons. Another guy last week has a patch where his insulin is delivered (he removed the insulin line before we started but said he may need a bite to eat part way through - no problem). I had to avoid the patch area when massaging him. Another time a client had a pump thing he used to get his cock hard - he told me about that because you could feel it under the skin. I’ve had similar with guys who had a pacemaker thing in their chest. It’s really not unusual to see clients with conditions or things that they think might be a limiting factor in how their session runs. I find all of it interesting and to be honest it’s kind of flattering because they chose me for their session. It’s a turn on for me to know that this person laying on my massage table or in the bed had all the providers in London to choose and they saw my profile and said ‘yeah him, he looks ok’. Then they come and enjoy themselves, leave happy and even better they book again. How awesome is that! 😊. Most guys doing this work for any length of time will be doing it because they genuinely enjoy the job in the way I describe. Find one of those providers, tell him what you need to for your peace of mind and then let him do his thing. Relax, enjoy yourself, explore, smile, don’t take it too seriously or over think It. I would also say I agree massage would be a good idea, it’s nice to build intimacy and is like a seduction….and you’re right about the oil! The previous posters @jmichaeliiiand @dbar123 both said it too. They’re right. My perspective from a provider point of view is the same as theirs.

Ah yes I’m talking from a UK perspective. However I’m sure it’s more of a perceived risk than a real one? Especially so if you hire a guy who has been around a while and is well reviewed.

There’s no agreed definition. You best ask what’s included. I advertise sensual massage, sometimes clients request anal intercourse (give or receive) and other things across a range of activities. I’m open to discussing it as part of a sensual massage, and depending on what’s agreed my rate may vary. The important thing is that if you specifically want something included then ask your masseur. Someone advertising sensual or erotic will be open to such requests. Someone advertising therapeutic only should not be asked for any sexual type services.

I don’t like it much either. Couldn’t see what was wrong with the old design. Why do they change it so much? Just let it evolve slowly, don’t make wholesale changes.

It sounds like it’s intimacy you seek, and approval from other men. This need not be a sexual encounter: intimacy does not have lead to anything sexual and it’s best if that is not an obligation on you (or on the masseur). This is why I suggest a massage with a sensual masseur would be a good starting point for your exploration. Pick one of similar age, who seems to be understanding and empathetic (most are if they do this kind of work). Tell him what you’d like, with your limits clear. The session can unfold naturally and you only do what you’re comfortable with. Initially that may mean just being naked with a guy and enjoying his touch, his presence and most of all his approval. Once you’re comfortable with him you can go further in future sessions.

Lisbon? Porto? The Algarve? Do you want city activities or a resort? The sea will be cold for swimming…so maybe avoid that and do Lisbon. There’s plenty to see if you like history, great eating options, lively nightlife, Christmas markets and midnight mass. The people are friendly, it’s inexpensive and easy to travel around and it won’t be too busy with tourists. Bairro Alto is good in the nighttime, eat late and explore the area.

The few well known clients I’ve seen (a politician, a tv entertainer)- didn’t ask for one. I was invited to a party one time and sent an agreement to sign but it all seemed too shady so I declined 😂

Confidentiality agreements… could be he’s prepared to sign one rather than he requires one. High profile clients sometimes require such an agreement if you’re hired to entertain them.

Me too. Wasn’t easy for him. He’s back to his old effervescent self now, and is avoiding those nefarious types who led him down that path.

Could work but make sure they’re both ok with it before you hire, including what you want them to do together. Your experience with each separately may have been great but the dynamic changes a lot when there’s 3 or more of you. As always communication is key. If clients hire me to work with another guy (called a duo session) then they usually ask me to come up with some suggestions. There’s 5 of 6 providers I know well, have worked with and I know what they’re into. Similarly they know me so if the client wants us to focus on each during the session, as well as him, then we can do it. Some clients have seen me in films with other providers so they hire us for their session knowing that we can work together. It saves the risk of the guys they hire not working out especially given hiring 2 guys is costly. The other advantage of asking one guy for his suggestions is you can ask him to set it all up. Saves you liaising with 2 guys. What you might find with 2 guys who don’t know each other is that even though they might say they’re ok with what you want…when it comes to it in the session it doesn’t quite come off. I’d also suggest don’t book 3 guys. Not all at same time anyway. 4 is a bit awkward. If you want multiple guys hire someone to join a bit later and have him join as someone else leaves. A fresh person livens up the session after the first guy has done his thing. Your main hire can be booked for the whole session. It’s the best way for a longer session.

You sound sensible. If you’re able to do sex work and stay sane and clean of drugs etc it can set you up nicely. The trouble is it’s very difficult to keep grounded, especially if you’re young. I started at a more mature age, which has helped me keep things in perspective. The work can be exciting, well rewarded and it gives you a lot of flexibility, but there’s a dark side unless you’re careful. Had I found sex work at 19 I’m sure it would have eaten me up. A friend who started it around the same time as me found the dark side and it nearly got him. He’s younger than me and threw himself into the work, encouraged by the attention he got. He was fit, sexy etc and flew very close to the sun. He got involved with the wrong people and ended up on meth. His looks went, so did most of his money. He managed to hide what was happening to him for a long time but eventually it was unavoidable and he sought help. He gave me all his cash (not in a pea box unfortunately) to look after while he got himself back clean. Now he’s back to his former self but no longer escorts… just a bit of porn filming.

No it’s not true. That comment by the sociologist is I suspect made based on her assumptions rather than direct experience of the work.

This I agree with. You’ve got to feel comfortable with the person, it’s fundamental to being able to enjoy the session. I have a website where I write about my work (no names!) and quite a few clients have said they booked me because they read the website and got an idea about what I’m like. So I think also look to see if he has a website or other media where you can get an idea about what your potential guy is like. Social media can also give you an idea but it tends to be very curated.

Unfortunately there will always be chancers. When I get someone asking for a discount I just say no and don’t engage in any debate or negotiation because it’s very draining negotiating that on top of the other arrangements that need to be decided (like the day/time/duration/content/location details). You pay my rate or you find someone else. Got to be really strict about that.

Probably a lawyer who provides specialist legal advice alongside a blow job. In a way you still get fucked.

I don’t do therapeutic only. My massage includes therapeutic work but is sensual: my definition of sensual includes oral, rim, kiss, prostate massage etc. The client will usually reach orgasm and the massage is done naked (part way through). What actually gets included depends on what the client is comfortable with. Other masseurs might have a different definition of sensual and have different ideas about what is included, that’s why I say to ask them. Oh and I think it’s really important that it’s a great massage done well.

Can of worms…. There’s no standard definition so you should ask the guy what he includes for the rate quoted.

Thank you. I do have a relationship with a client, although it is more of a friendship and we have a lot less sex now that he’s no longer a client!! But actually I really value the friendship. Yes, I’m mostly a top for clients (if it comes to that) and generally I prefer that role. I think it’s a result of being large; guys kind of assume you’re always a top. But I like to be versatile and bottom sometimes. The thing with doing sex work is you tend to be a people pleaser…you don’t prioritise your needs.

I do that kind of session for a few guys. They’re not interested in sex as such although it sometimes happens but it isn’t the purpose of the session. The purpose is companionship, for a short time such as a few hours (I don’t do overnight or days). Has been to meals, a walk, accompany to a sauna (some guys are scared to go alone), a theatre trip. You need to check the person is compatible, even more so than in a sex focused session.

Hello @Rod Hagen! Yes I’d better explain that one ha ha. Maybe ‘ruin’ is a bit misleading. ‘Impacts in unexpected ways’ is my experience. It makes me less spontaneous with my partners (not clients) either because I’ve been busy with clients or they book last minute and I change my plans to accommodate them because it’s business and that impacts on my sex life with partners. The work is so random it makes it difficult to have a relationship. Other impacts are the expectations people have. I find they expect me to be a certain role which in ‘non work’ sex which I don’t necessarily want to do. I guess I hadn’t anticipated these things, having not thought about it deeply before starting this kind of work. There’s upsides too! Like all the practice helps 🙂