Jamie21

Not sure why not being fully out would be a problem? Straight people can get HIV too. If you’re not doing bb sex then yes of course there’s less need to use prep but it is still possible that a condom breaks or other sexual activity presents some risk. If you’re on several medications your medical professional should know and can advise on whether it’s safe to use prep. Plus you get a 6 month check up when on prep to ensure no adverse effects (at least you do where I am - UK). So yes there are reasons not to use it but I think on balance it’s probably best to use it if you have regular different sexual partners.

No I think those guys are referred to as ‘stable boys’. These guys lead the stallion to cover the mare 😉. Yes definitely. I default to bareback, it’s normalised. Fortunately PrEP is available on the NHS. No excuse not to use it unless you have a medical condition that precludes it. But do get tested regularly! That’s important if you’re active.

It appears that your operating model doesn’t work? Although I guess you might come back with examples of times when it does work of course…. But I’d suggest that if it doesn’t work > 80% of the time then it’s not effective and you need to change something. The world won’t change to suit you; you have to change to fit the world. I don’t travel so I’m not going to offer any ideas except to say that if I book a hotel room (I use them for filming) then I use DayUse which provides rooms by the hour. Usually at affordable rates and at convenient times.

I have the same approach. There are a few clients who have pain in the ass characteristics: - making bookings and repeatedly cancelling or rescheduling so I spend loads of time scheduling. - having extremely demanding requirements (like wanting to over choreograph a massage). - booking for difficult times. Example I say I’m available up to 4pm on Tuesday…and he then asks for 4:30pm (done on purpose to exert control). These clients pay more than my standard rate. I don’t mind what they look like. In fact I like the variety of different clients, big, small, older, younger, different races and colours etc. It’s the wonder of the job, the opportunity to find out that despite all the outward differences there’s some things that apply universally.

I don’t care what their physical appearance is. Most clients don’t disclose what they look like and I don’t ask but I’d guess around 20% send a description and a handful send a picture. In my experience clients are accurate in their description if they offer it.

This is very insightful. I wouldn’t speak for others but my experience of sex work is that if a client is having a great time because I made them feel good about themselves then it’s a huge turn on for me. That in turn helps the client to feel approved of because I’m turned on and then we are into a nice virtuous circle. In my experience guys want to be approved of and women want to be desired. That’s essentially what you’re doing. If doing that is a turn on for you then sex work is a good vocation. I do use viagra (or other similar things) because it’s a kind of reassurance. In this business you can become somewhat desensitised to sex. Viagra helps in that sense.

I’m old too!

Clients contact me by text, WhatsApp, Twitter DM, message on Rentmasseur and occasionally email. Some even make a telephone call!! I prefer WhatsApp because it’s immediate. The trouble with email is that it’s not so immediate; conversations tend to be over days rather than hours or minutes as with texts or WhatsApp. However I do understand why clients don’t want to use their phone (mainly for discretion) so it’s fine to book via email…just don’t try to book a short notice session by email!

That’s a feature of Rentmasseur I don’t use. I do get the notification that someone has looked at my profile but I never send the potential client an email in response to it. I figure that if they like me and want to book they’ll go ahead either now or at some point in the future. I see guys on Rentmasseur making multiple visits to my profile over many years! It takes some people a lot of thinking to actually make the decision to hire. However, if I did send an email to follow up with browsers then I wouldn’t be upset if they declined to book or just ignored it. I wouldn’t worry about it @glennnnn

I was in bed (alone) by 11:30pm. Lovely! It makes 1 January welcome. I went to the gym this morning which was a great start to the year (although it will get busy there over the next few weeks unfortunately). NYE is very overrated as a party evening.

Yes I offer bed massage on out call. I’ll recommend the table though because in my opinion it’s a better massage but if the client’s hotel room doesn’t have space or they specifically want a bed massage then that’s fine, I’ll do it on the bed. It’s their massage so their call. I’ve techniques I use for the bed such as I’ll usually lay the client across the bed rather than the usual up /down sleeping position so I can stand to massage their head and feet. I put the pillows in a v position under his chest so he can have his head in a natural straight position while I massage his shoulders for example. I’ll also use my feet to do some of the massage which is more possible to do on the bed than it is the table. I do yoga so I’m quite flexible and climbing over the client and kneeling / bending is ok for me. In my studio I offer massage on a futon which is very similar to bed massage. Some clients prefer the futon because of the increased level of intimacy and body contact. Also overweight clients tend to prefer the Futon than the table because they have more space. On the futon there’s space for me to move around and over the client and I tend to use a lot more body contact earlier on in the massage. I do have a few outcall clients who like to start on the table and then move to the bed during the session which works well because they get both experiences. I don’t have a hard line on the difference between the services (masseur / escort). I won’t explain why here because it’s off topic but I agree with you @Simon Suraci , clients who specifically ask for bed massage tend to expect it to be more like an escort session.

Happy Ending (🍆💦)

As this is the gift giving season, I’d like to say that feedback is a gift.

It’s very easy to get into a habit of working every day in this business. Normally I’m available every day (not that I actually get booked every day but in theory I’m available every day). In practice it works out that I’ll have clients on 4 out of 7 days on average. But being always available means you don’t make firm plans to do other things, which can be disruptive to your non work life. I’m lucky, most of my other commitments are flexible so I can often see clients and it’s why I advertise as being available 7 days a week. But, this time of year forces me to block out time when I’m definitely not available. It’s quite nice to be able to focus time on other things like family and friends or just on renewal.

Happy Christmas to all on this forum. I’m glad to be part of it.

I don’t look at client profiles. I just don’t find it necessary because the client usually tells me what I need to know when they book. I’m not bothered by what they look like either so I don’t need a picture. I think that sometimes clients don’t fully understand what they like so they’re unlikely to put it in their profile (or they’ll be shy about stating it in their profile) so this is why I’m not taking much notice of profiles. In my experience what happens is they find out what they like through a series of sessions with you. You introduce them to things they weren’t previously aware of. Thats why they’re coming to a professional: to be taken on a journey they’d probably not take on their own. So whilst I like to know a little about my client I don’t want to know a lot. However, I do keep notes of what clients like so that if they come back I know what works for them and it makes a better session. That’s the best thing to do: explore with them and pay attention to what they like so you can recreate it next session, but keeping things fresh with small tweaks and surprises. I think a good mix is 80% familiar tried and tested content and 20% new or different things.

I can accept tips via my justforfans. Just saying😉

I’ve had guys enquire about booking me to massage their wife, as a surprise. Sometimes they ask about giving her a gift card so she can book a massage. It almost never works out because a) often it’s his fantasy not hers or b) I don’t go surprises so I need to speak to her to book the session which rather makes the surprise gift part of it pointless. I don’t do gift cards because of this. It’s such a personal service that the buyer really needs to make the decision themselves not have someone else decide for them. Best to give your beneficiary the money direct and recommend the provider that they spend it on. Then they genuinely have a choice.

So would I…. and to hear if he was dressed and making payment 15 minutes after full penetration. It sounds like the drive through fast food end of the market.

He’s a pro 😉. I’ve used that line once or twice….

I really don’t care what the Pope thinks, says or does. He’s only the Pope because people make him so. I don’t accept that he has any say whether a man can marry another man. The Church (any Church) only exists because some people want to exert control over others using things like threats, coercion, stories, social control and guilt.

Best to be vegetarian. 90% of the choices are off the menu for you. Much simpler.

Yes I agree. I also find that immediately afterwards there’s a demand spike. As if having spent time with family or unwillingly been exposed to solitude people want a little escape.

My clients are international. Being based in London I get a lot of US visitors, and the Middle East as well as Brits. I’d say the most pushy as to availability are the Middle Eastern clients who seem to like to pick times that aren’t available. As in: Client: “when are you available tomorrow?” Me: “I’m available between 11am and 2pm, or 4pm to 8pm”. Client: “I book an hour at 6pm” Me: “I cant do 6pm” …..and so it goes on with me suggesting available times and him asking for days or times I can’t do. Eventually if we do set a time then he’ll move it by 15 minutes. I think these clients just enjoy the haggle. They could reach agreement quickly but that feels like they haven’t achieved anything so they turn the booking into a haggle. At the session they’re usually very deferential indeed (and super inhibited), but that’s a different topic!

My experience is that pushy clients are extremely rare. If I say I’m not available then they take it as that and either ask for a different day or just say ‘thanks’. Maybe my experience is unusual but I doubt it. The ‘pushy’ client is not really a thing. In fact most clients are more on the deferential, non assuming kind.