Jamie21

Depends how complicated and demanding the role play is. If I’m given a script with detailed instructions and it feels like I have to be aiming for an Oscar nomination then….sorry but I’m not able to do that. If it’s more of a general ‘could you play along with this kind of vibe’ then that’s fine and it is often quite fun. I agree with you that massage is a great way in. I think it need not be considered as just the starting point though; it can be the whole theme of the session, whatever sexual activity is involved.

Remember too that when you hire, regardless of all the debate about whether your hire enjoys it or not, he’s there at your request. You decide the duration, the date and time (within his availability of course) and if you choose to you can simply lay back and leave it all to him. You’re paying for convenience, for access and for his expertise as well as his services.

Yeah I figured that if I charge for the pull out, and he’s run out of money at that point then we have an impasse 😳. Happy Friday friends 😘

I use the low cost airline pricing strategy for up selling: I’ve got a rate marker tottood on my cock. First inch inside is £50. Want the next inch? That’s another £40. Next is a further £40…Balls deep the total comes to £330 (those who paid attention in maths class will be working out my size)…. Once it’s in then I ask how many thrusts the client wants. They can buy the Platinum service (£100 for unlimited thrusts) or package of 20 thrusts for £5. The final pull out is free. If they want to change position then that’s like buying a new ticket: they need to pay by the inch again. If I’m bottoming I don’t charge by the inch (it wouldn’t maximise income from less well endowed clients…and if I find someone with 12 inches then he’s welcome to use them all for a flat rate tbh).

Yes. This is why some people can do sex work and others can’t.

The thing is, generally, if you do sex work you enjoy giving pleasure. If you’re doing it primarily for your own sexual gratification then you won’t be very good at it and you won’t last in the business. It’s not my sex life or sexual urges I am satisfying (although that may happen indirectly…as the OP has experienced) it’s my basic need to give pleasure that I’m satisfying. I think that’s what enables me and others who do this (like @Simon Suraciexplained) to do the job and do it well.

Because it’s my job.

He’s done his job. Of course he’ll want paying. Just because he enjoyed it doesn’t mean you don’t have to pay him! I enjoy all my client sessions (and if I don’t they wouldn’t be able to tell…) but I still expect to be paid!

I never upsell. I think it’s bad practice to do so, especially during the massage. I think you agree the content and the rate beforehand and stick to it. Offering an upsell mid massage is taking advantage of someone when they probably aren’t able or willing to decline it. If someone asks for more services mid massage (and it’s something I’d usually charge extra for, such as to bottom) then I usually suggest they book that for next visit.

RentMasseur gives you the opportunity to upload a certificate and then they mark you as certified. They say they check the certificate but I wonder how diligent that is. It’s because in certain locations you can’t advertise offering massage without being certified. However, I’ve never seen a licensed massage therapist who offers therapeutic massage only (who stays clothed and doesn’t touch genitals) and who drapes etc offer their services on RentMasseur. If they do then they’re advertising in the wrong place: look at the semi clothed public pictures (and the explicit private ones!), the descriptions and the inclusion of sensual/tantric massages…If you want a massage therapist who won’t do anything sexual don’t look on RentMasseur!

Although escorts may not give a good massage (very unlikely to have a table for example). If you want a good massage (done properly on a table with decent oil etc) and sexual activity then hire a masseur who does sensual / erotic and tell him what you want, either specifically if it’s a must have; “I definitely want to be kissed” or what kind of activity you’d like; “I’d like it very erotic to climax but I’ll leave it to you to decide how”. If there’s something you definitely don’t want, then tell him; “nothing inside”. Personally I prefer clients to tell me what they don’t want but then to leave it to me to read the cues from their reactions. If they enjoy it they come back and I remember what they liked and the ‘getting to know you’ progresses. I like to keep it interesting by varying things up and exploring with them a little more. Always with clear understanding of their boundaries and their clear understanding of mine. Within that, anything goes.

Yes there is that. They often forget they contacted me previously and message again sometimes years later. Then it’s my turn to ignore them.

It works both ways. I get ghosted by clients regularly! Client “Hi I’m interested in a massage are you available tomorrow?” Me “yes I am available anytime between 10am and 9pm” Client 👻👻👻👻 or this one: I struggle to understand why some clients simply ignore a reply. Just say ‘thanks but I changed my mind or am no longer interested’. Otherwise I’m waiting thinking ‘He asked so I won’t make firm plans until I hear his reply’. Maybe sometimes the message doesn’t get through but often I know it has because WhatsApp tells me so, yet still it gets ghosted. Very strange.

This is great advice. I totally agree.

Yes I had a set up like this for a couple of years. Start on the table, move to the bed was a common situation. People like to think they’re coming for a proper massage (which they get on a table) that develops into something more. I think you can do everything you need in terms of how things could develop on the table but the option of the bed is nice to have.

I get a few clients who found me from my justforfans and Onlyfans sites. They contact me via DM on X (twitter). Don’t ask them on their fans platform because they don’t allow you to discuss hiring on there.

Yes I do…if it’s likely I’ll bottom. Sometimes I’ve taken a chance if he’s small and it won’t go far in 😂.

If you don’t feel enlightened …then use some lube?

I think the analogy is a fair one. Alcoholics affect others massively (try living with one) so do drug addicts (most crime is drug related). I agree with you about the waiting for each partner to react. That happens. It’s a choice though. You choose to do it safe, he wasn’t compelled to do so. Similarly I don’t insist anyone agrees to my choice. If a client wants to top me with a condom that’s fine because I choose to agree they use one if they want to. If the client wants me to top them with a condom then I simply decline, and it doesn’t happen (and as I said, it’s not part of massage anyway). It’s all free choice. It’s very easy to avoid the risk of catching something: you avoid all human contact.

I use grapeseed oil. Tastes fine. Lovely for massage, good for the skin.

I agree with you.

Oh well I must be doing it wrong then. All these years and over 1000 clients and now I learn I’ve been doing it wrong 😬.

I’m cut, some clients are too. If playing with a cut cock you do need a bit of lube sometimes.

Good! It’s important when hiring that things are clear. I wasn’t thinking your reply (or any reply) was judgmental. My stance on BB is fairly academic anyway because almost all my work is sensual/erotic massage so I don’t offer to top or bottom as part of that service. Sometimes it happens of course but never as an expectation.

Maybe I misread it but I didn’t feel it was really judgmental (but then I’m thick skinned, I don’t care if anyone judges me!). I like the range of opinions on here. Some people focus on extreme safety some much more open to risk. Who knows what someone’s background is that leads them to their position. If they express it as judgmental on others then I think that says more about them than the person they’re judging.