Jamie21

I agree. You can tell a lot by the medium someone chooses to contact you by. My older clients phone me to book. They never initiate the booking with a text but will respond to my confirmation text. They never use email or messenger apps to contact me. Younger / Millennial clients seem to use WhatsApp or Telegram. Those kind of messaging apps. Gen X tend to email or text. Sometimes they message me via Twitter DM. Of all the methods I prefer it to be via text or WhatsApp because I can then respond discreetly and at the appropriate time. It’s not always possible to answer a phone call and if I’m in company or in public it’s not easy to discuss services over the phone. However if I’m somewhere discreet then a phone call is best if the client has a lot of questions.

Full service massage, if by full service you mean penetrative sex is include, is escort rate work. It’s priced higher than sensual massage. The actual rate though depends on the market you’re in, which you haven’t mentioned.

I don’t mind where I am on the bed because it really depends how many others are on the bed with me doesn’t it?

This is a coincidence. Just yesterday a client handed me a wad of notes after the massage and I didn’t count it. I never do unless the client says please count. Most of my clients pay by card so it’s impossible to short. This guy was a client I’d seen a couple of times previously (although over 2 years since his last visit). After he’d left I got in the shower then started to tidy up after the massage. As I was getting dressed I saw the money and decided to put it in my wallet but as I did so it felt light so I counted and it’s £100 short. I knew it was a mistake because he’d never done anything like it before and he’d clearly enjoyed the session, so I messaged him and he immediately responded to say he was coming back. After about 10 minutes he turned up and settled the balance without any problem. Had it been a new client I’d have done the same, but perhaps not if the money was just £20 short. But £100 short is so obviously an error I’d always message them to let them know. If they’d shorted me on purpose then they’d either say so or ignore me. Can’t see the point in blocking because if they’d not enjoyed it they wouldn’t be coming back. Also if the client did try to book again in future I could remind them of the money they owe. I’m glad you @questbearwere able to fix the mistake. You’re a great client!

That’s an interesting one!! Not done that before. I’ve started with a workout with client at the hotel gym. Get sweaty then go back to the room and….get sweaty 😂. A jog is a nice idea.

I’ve done sessions ranging from an hour to five hours. Always agreed the time duration in advance. I ask what the client wants from the session, which always includes some form of massage. Beyond that it’s really up to them to ask or they leave it to me to choreograph the session. I include things like chat, watch some porn together, make out etc, shower, undress at start, eating (food 😉 ), cuddling, if it’s in a sauna then cruising around and picking up guys for fun, or just me accompanying the client. Sometimes it includes doing some training (work out) too. All sorts of things can happen. If the client is satisfied and wants to stop earlier than planned then the fee is as originally agreed. Otherwise I’ll always make sure that the whole session is completed.

It’s a common misunderstanding. If you see a guy calling himself a masseuse then he’s probably not very good. Don’t hire.

It’s not an excuse, they shouldn’t ghost but some do, and it’s because they’re paying (or would be paying). Customers feel like they can call the shots.

I’ve a client who is a side. In his case it literally is that he likes laying alongside and cuddling. Some hand work on his cock but that’s it, no sucking, nothing internal. He likes watching me have sex with other guys, but doesn’t want to participate. I think there can be all sorts of reasons for this. Perhaps it’s a fear of catching something, or it’s some past trauma or bad experience of being penetrated. Some guys are very small so it’s difficult for them to top or to get pleasure from it. Sometimes it’s just a fear of things being ‘dirty’. Religious issues or social conditioning can also make some guys rule out penetrative sex. Maybe it’s not gay if they don’t penetrate. All sorts of reasons exist. With my client we don’t explore why, we just accept it and enjoy the time because it does help you to find other ways to be intimate.

Happy ending is the client reaches climax. Most clients have that minimum expectation of a sensual massage. A small number of my clients don’t expect that but 99% want it. But they also want a great massage. You have to provide both. It’s no good doing a poor massage and then a hand job, nor is it good doing a great massage but not touching his cock! I’m fine to provide the happy ending in any way they like whether that’s hand job or bj or body contact etc. Most clients want to interact with me. I usually say they’re welcome to interact with me as much or as little as they like and see what their expectations are. Usually that has been agreed at the booking stage anyway. Then it’s up to them. Some will suck me, some want to do more. I think it’s important to be clear about what’s ok and what isn’t included and let them do whatever they like within those parameters.

That’s it. And I always send a confirmation message the day before the client’s meeting because people tend to forget or change their mind.

Maybe some do, probably most don’t. I still think they’re just enquiries until the moment they’re in front of you. What goes on in their mind and in their world is nothing you can control. All you can do is control how you think about it.

I think maybe you’re investing too much hope in what are mostly just enquiries? I get lots of people asking about availability etc, even guys who book but then change their minds on the day. It’s annoying but normal for people to simply go quiet when I reply with rates or availability. Therefore I simply don’t build up any expectations of a booking or even of a client actually turning up until I open the door to them in person. Anything before them standing in front of me is just a ‘maybe’. and my expectations are zero. Of all the enquiries I get only around 50% turn into a real session. The other 50% are window shoppers, the perennial undecided, the hopelessly disorganised and the ones who get off on the thought of a session but who can’t cope with the reality. I think this is the milk that one has to accept if one wants the cream. So I accept the milk and enjoy the cream.

I hate to be asked for a discount. It makes the session (if it happens) awkward. I have a simple rule, no discounts, ever…especially if my client asks for one. So the answer is always ‘no’. The rate is advertised, so I think if you don’t want to pay it please don’t approach me. Some might see that as inflexible but I think in this business you need really strict boundaries. For regulars I’ll go over on time (if possible) but never discount on my rate.

This is an interesting point. I agree a table massage is better but I don’t require clients to have it on the table. Often if I do an out call in London either the client’s hotel room isn’t big enough or it’s not possible for me to get my table there (as in there’s nowhere to park). So I’m fine to use the bed if the client is because otherwise he’d not be able to go ahead (assuming he can’t make my studio). I agree that a bed massage is more likely to develop into an escort style session than if a table is used, but I think that’s up to me to manage.

I love it when flakes reach out again, sometimes years later. They’ve forgotten but I haven’t (yes like @Vin_Marco I also keep the records!). All the same red flag signals are there in the message too…do they never change? I string along the chat for a bit if I’m bored, and just in case they are genuine. Then when and if it gets to confirming a booking I say “when you last booked you didn’t turn up / you messaged last minute saying you couldn’t make it etc so on this occasion I need full payment in advance please”. At that point they usually either go quiet, or come up with some reason to say they aren’t quite ready to book but they ‘definitely intend to’. Then I don’t hear from them for another year or so until they come across my profile again… I know the signs of a flake, they’re so obvious. Most of them never get to actually book because I’ve screened them out. If they do book a session I always do a check in with them 24 hours before the sessions and if they don’t confirm at that point it’s cancelled and I don’t make any commitments for it. I don’t do last minute bookings unless I’m already at the venue and it’s immediately following another client. If they don’t turn up then I’ve lost nothing. Last minute late evening bookers are usually flaky. For my modus operandi a deposit is not necessary. I don’t travel out of my home city, out calls are at the client’s hotel or home, and for in calls if the client doesn’t show up I don’t incur cost. I do agree to front up cost (for a few clients I pay for the hotel or venue) for trusted regulars and I just include the costs in my rate. Here’s the crux of it: I think those ‘clients’ who think all sex work is somehow low rent and done by people who are desperate are the ones who are most likely to flake. If you appear like this in how you run your business then they’ll definitely try to take advantage of you. However if you present and take a professional approach to the work (which in my view it 100% deserves) then you will attract respectable clients who will be reliable. Those clients are the best and they become regular. Run things professionally, have a consistent business model (including deposits if necessary), communicate properly and business like, have clear pricing and policies about what you do, be on time. All these things tell the client that they’re dealing with someone reliable and it makes you much less likely to be treated badly. You’re doing a job most people simply can’t do, so know your value and don’t let anyone disrespect that.

Best option is to ask for what you want: fun, dinner, movie, more fun etc from x time to y time and ask his rate. He’ll give you an all in rate, he won’t break it down by segment. If the cost is too high for you then shorten the session.

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I was referring to the economic concept of perfect competition. Perfect visibility of prices and perfect knowledge about product enables the market to work without distortion. The distortion caused by illegality and the difficulty of being able to advertise openly and for buyers to compare value means that the price might be over or under the true market rate depending on the level of knowledge that buyers and sellers have.

The only challenge to that is that in most free markets all the players have good information on price and product. Because in the US the product is largely illegal that does mean the market can’t operate as efficiently as it might otherwise do. For example rates aren’t freely visible, nor is the product. This gives some opportunity for the price to be manipulated.

Demand and supply. Nothing to do with what you think you’re worth or need. The market decides the rate. You and your clients decide whether or not you’re participating in that market. Nothing else is relevant.

This is not a red flag for me. It’s surprising how many clients have a thing for feet! I’m size 11 (UK size) 😉. All the others I concur. Especially the unsolicited dick pics and the nonchalant responses which imply lack of commitment to keeping the booking. But the biggest red flag is a message that just says “hey”.

Posting an alluring nude pic to get attention…., you’re thirsty ( as in horny) and you see a mirage of an oasis offering to quench your thirst. That’s a thirst trap!

I don’t have many routines. Every day is different and I prefer it that way. The only consistent first thing in the morning is to have a cup of Yorkshire tea and see the news. The rest of the day could pan out in myriad of different ways, which is good because I like options and variety.

I think it’s a very difficult distinction to pull off, over a sustained period of time. I had a regular client who I’m now friends with (holidays together, meals out etc, recreational sex) and I found it difficult when he was booking me as a client after our friendship had developed. It happened gradually; over time we became friends whilst he still hired me. After a short while of this I had to tell him I wouldn’t charge him any longer because I found it awkward. He accepted that. I think he found it awkward too. Now the relationship is simpler. No money changes hands. I think it could be possible to have a kind of dual relationship: Paid companion on one hand and friend on the other, but it’s not one I’m able to sustain.