Jamie21

Did he sing Ring Of Fire as your hand disappeared?

He cums 3 times. You’ll get another message.

It’s the human spirit to explore and push boundaries. We wouldn’t have survived without that drive. It’s also the human spirit to empathise with the people stuck in that sub. Imagine what you would feel if you were down there. You’d also hope that someone would try to rescue you. If they are saved then I’m sure they’ll be grateful and will compensate those who save them. If they don’t do that then they’ll deserve contempt. When we start deciding who deserves saving and who doesn’t then we’re on a very slippery slope. Who decides where that line is drawn? That’s also what makes us human: compassion.

Agree, doing it part time is also real life, and I mean as a source of income not as a bit of a side hustle. The important thing is that sex work is a clear choice and it is approached professionally by the guy. Maybe the OP meant ‘providers who are very successful in a more mainstream field’ rather than ‘in real life’?

Yes! Except I get clients asking for a ‘masseuse’ for a 4 hands with me when they really mean another masseur. If I didn’t check it with them and turned up with a female 4 hands partner I think they’d be a bit surprised!!

Ah ok, but I don’t draw the line at 10. I was using it figuratively as a rough guide. My opinion doesn’t suddenly switch when the client sends the 11th text! It slowly develops as the texts increase in number…and always in context of course. To clients yes this is fun, and it is to me too (or else I wouldn’t do the job, and of course a fun experience is part of what I’m hoping to offer) but it is also work and so that means there needs to be some ways of working around it otherwise you find you’re not making a living. One has to try and minimise the transactional part of course but it’s not possible to eliminate it.

I can’t speak for your location…you might need to travel to find what you’re looking for but I’m sure it exists…it doesn’t appear that you’re looking for a unicorn. Yes BFE stands for boyfriend experience. My suggestion is to contact those you like, but only if their profile looks professional: quality pics, well written bio, they might have a website, rates are not too cheap, their RM profile has some recommendations, they’ve been around a while etc. Contact them directly and be clear about what you want and when. Don’t assume a lack of instant response is disinterest. It’s likely he’s busy. And beware of the guys who are only interested in talking to you if you’re booking for ‘now’. A decent guy will engage if you’re looking for tomorrow or next week. If you want a group session find a guy you like, see him on his own first and if that goes well ask him if he works with others. You’ll probably get a better session and it will be easier to schedule if you let him work with someone he knows.

This answers the question perfectly. Choose the right provider and you won’t feel rejected or judged you’ll feel accepted and valued.

Please list all the other reasons 😂😂😂😂😂

I was surprised when clients said to me that they liked my voice. My website has a demo video in which I speak (only a little) but it’s something that quite a few clients said they liked. I’d never considered it to be a thing but it’s a pleasant surprise that there are those who like my voice or my accent. So now I play on my British accent 😉

You’d think so wouldn’t you, but I believe it’s much less common than you’d expect. In the first instance it’s very difficult to separate the two different styles. If you’re offering strictly therapeutic style massage you definitely can’t blur the lines with clients without risking your license. I know that therapeutic masseurs can also be quite critical of sensual masseurs because they think we demean their profession, by association. Also the techniques are quite different, so sensual or erotic massage requires skills that you’d never learn from doing therapeutic massage. There’s also the question of advertising and having a separate number etc for therapeutic clients vs sensual clients and a different pricing structure. I think you’d begin to question why you’re doing a therapeutic massage for less than half the money you’d earn doing a sensual massage. So I believe that the parallel career of a sensual masseur is more likely to be escort or an Onlyfans performer rather than a therapeutic masseur. Certainly that’s what I do and I know many other masseurs who are similar.

Rigid?? Really? When I said ‘can be’ and ‘depending’! And a red flag is just that. Red flags are indicative of a problem not definitive of one. A whole series of red flags? Yes that’s a problem. I’ve engaged in thousands of enquiries whilst doing this job. I think my data on what constitutes a red flag is quite robust now 😉.

He’s probably an escort who supplements his income as an attorney. Both jobs involve fucking clients.

All of those I know who do sex work (and this includes me) are doing it because they choose to, not because they have to. They’re intelligent, successful, interesting people. I’ve found that if you’re successful in one field it’s possible to take learnings from that and bring them to sex work and be successful there too. Similarly with guys I’ve met whilst making porn. They’re invariably intelligent switched on people doing it because they enjoy it and are good at it. If you don’t enjoy the work you really won’t last long doing it.

I reject quite a lot of appointments because they’re last minute requests. I swear some people think I don’t do anything else except wait for their call!

Probably because everyone likes to fuck a tax guy 😉.

First time bottom at 50…what’s taken you so long? Pick an older versatile guy. Regardless of his size he will know how to break you in, and if he’s vers he’ll know what feels good and what feels less good.

>10 texts…yes it’s a red flag, not necessarily an ‘ignore’ but it still indicates you’re going to spend hours of unpaid time in responding to him. That kind of wears you down after a while. I have one potential client who has been messaging with questions, observations, requests, pics etc for 4 years on and off. On 3 occasions he’s actually booked a session only to send a message a day or so before the session with some ‘excuse’ to cancel (Covid is a good one). I know 99% for sure he won’t ever get up the courage to book. I’ve even told him that he shouldn’t open this Pandora’s box unless he’s absolutely sure he wants to explore. Yes, >10 texts can be a red flag especially depending on how the conversation progresses. I’d say almost all the information one needs is on my website so anyone asking lots of questions either hasn’t read it or is undecided.

Half as good as I feel about 30 minutes 😉

I am worth it of course..but I discount my rates so that clients who are not so wealthy can afford me. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

Sorry to hear this. But it’s not unusual in this line of work. I’ve had some clients (repeat clients not just first timers) ask if I’m free on a day and then once I confirm I’m available they say they’ll message me when they are ready but without committing to a firm booking. Sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn’t but I never ever turn away firm bookings or alter my plans to hang around waiting for the client to decide if he wants to go ahead. Some people have an entitled attitude unfortunately and they expect you to jump if they decide they want to meet. Fortunately it’s not the majority. When they message and say “still free? Can I book for 3pm” or whatever, I take pleasure in saying “oh sorry I’ve now got a booking”. If guys can’t plan their day why should I have my plans thrown into disarray? Organised clients get the booking. Disorganised clients can take their chances. You mentioned you’re new to this. Good luck to you! You’ll meet a lot of fantastic clients, really great people and you’ll get a lot of satisfaction from it but you might need to distance yourself from clients and how they behave towards you (both the good and the bad) otherwise it will burn you out.

You thinking that something might be wrong with you from that exchange tells me definitively that ….Nothing Is Wrong With You.

Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good night. Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight, And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way, Do not go gentle into that good night. Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. And you, my father, there on the sad height, Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray. Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light. That’s my plan. Of course with credit to Dylan Thomas.

In my experience as soon as you start discounting (whether that’s offering reduced rates for regulars or students or whatever) the discounted rate becomes the new ‘floor’ for your standard hour rate. It bleeds to other clients and then becomes the expectation. So I have a simple rule: no discounts ever. The rate is the rate, that’s it and it’s not a matter for discussion. The sooner the conversation moves from ‘how much’ to ‘this is what I like / want’ the better. I like to minimise the transactional nature of the meeting because it doesn’t help with creating the right atmosphere.

It sounds like he’s using you to explore his own sexuality. I agree with those who said he’s getting off on the dom sub thing. I’ll bet that if he hasn’t allowed you release yet then it’s unlikely to happen and if by chance it does then he won’t want to see you again because the ‘spell’ has been broken. I personally wouldn’t send the message to him, because it’s easy to misinterpret intentions from a message. I’d tell him next time you see him, before he starts, that given you won’t get a release you’d rather not have the sensual build up and just enjoy the therapeutic massage. See what happens after that. I like to give my clients a great massage but also always a release too (if they want it…most do). I think it’s a fetish if someone enjoys the build up but doesn’t want the climax, it’s perfectly fine if that’s specifically what they want but it’s very unusual.