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Late night last minute requests are usually a sign of trouble. I don’t get many but I avoid them. Sorry I’m not available… However a pre-booked (> 1 day in advance) at 11pm is fine, but no later. I prefer morning bookings: 10am set the day up nicely!
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Most clients who want to bottom seem to prefer or expect me to go bare. It’s the default now and isn’t even discussed. Similarly if they want to top me they go bare. I prefer it, because the feel of a condom isn’t great and the mechanics of putting it on detract from the moment (especially tearing the damn packet open when your hands are oily or covered in lube is annoyingly difficult). The consideration isn’t anything to do with the looks of the client: as others have said you can’t do the job properly if you’re bothered about whether someone might be physically unattractive. Usually if there’s challenges in getting or staying hard it’s because there’s other distractions in the room or the client doesn’t seem to be enjoying it.
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This is the biggest challenge of the work. I too hate turning down business, and so many clients tend to ask ‘on the day’ as if I’m just hanging around all day waiting for the phone to ring. Then they’re disappointed I’m not available! The trouble is that although at any one time I’ll have 3 of 4 clients booked for the week or weeks ahead most of the time the bookings are short notice. Like this week on Sunday I had 1 booked for the week ahead. A quiet week. So I made plans for other things. Now on Friday evening I’ve had 5 clients this week and my alternative plans went by the wayside. It’s tough to carve out time to do things like gym, read a book or catch up on my accounts! On the other hand I like the flexibility. I like the fact that I might be with a client at 10am on a Monday morning whilst most others are in an office. You take the rough with the smooth.
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pictures dont do him justice? thoughts gentlemen
+ Jamie21 replied to colonexstacy's topic in Spas & Masseurs
Yes professional photos are worth having done. A good photographer sees things in pictures that I wouldn’t see. I’ve had a few sessions and fortunately not had to pay the photographer because we did it on a barter arrangement. If you prefer not to have to find the cash then find a photographer who is amenable to a skills exchange. -
Masseur vs Escort: which one is better?
+ Jamie21 replied to MeatHead's topic in Questions About Hiring
I think it might be to do with guys assuming that because you’re hung you’re only a top. So it gets them off by seeing you enjoying bottoming for them. I’m not certain of that because the more I work with human sexuality the more I realise how multi faceted it is, almost beyond understanding, but so interesting to explore. -
Fabulous advice. Take notice of this.
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Masseur vs Escort: which one is better?
+ Jamie21 replied to MeatHead's topic in Questions About Hiring
Of course it is! Everything is marketing 😉. Size matters to tops too, some clients like to see a big dick on the guy that’s riding them. -
Masseur vs Escort: which one is better?
+ Jamie21 replied to MeatHead's topic in Questions About Hiring
A big dick always is helpful. It’s how I got into the work 😂 -
Masseur vs Escort: which one is better?
+ Jamie21 replied to MeatHead's topic in Questions About Hiring
This is good advice. The line is thin and in some instances they overlap. Ultimately you have to be comfortable with what you choose, because if you’re not then you won’t be successful at it. You can’t fake any of it for any length of time and hope for clients to come back. Example I advertise as a masseur, although I think I include many things that would fall into the escort arena. Some escorts include massage although for that to be credible with clients it’s better to have some massage skills. If you’re going to be a masseur get some massage training and do it properly (table, oils etc) and decide what your limits are and your price point. There’s lots of other considerations, such as knowing your market, legal issues, health precautions, advertising. Do it properly, as in with a professional approach and enjoy it as a great job or don’t do it atall and save yourself (and those clients unfortunate enough to hire you) the pain. -
Yes I’ve had a few older clients who I’ve wondered about that happening, especially at the moment of climax! I remember one time I’d visited a client at his hotel. We were on the bed and things were reaching their climax. Almost at the point where I think he’s almost there he breathlessly says to me “oh I need my pill, can you get them for me?”. I’m surprised and it puts me off a bit (I’m concentrating to try and climax with him). I say “Where are they?” whilst keeping going. “In my jacket pocket Jamie..”. I look around and can see no jacket. He’s laying their eyes closed breathing heavily and jerking himself off. I pull out of him and look around the room for his jacket….can’t see it. I ask him “where’s your jacket Tom” (name changed for confidentiality!) but he’s so either into his jerking or out of it that he doesn’t hear me. Now I’m starting to get concerned that he needs the pill…so I see a bottle of pills on the desk (next to his phone)…it must be them so I go back to the bed and give him them “is it these?”. He doesn’t answer or look but takes the bottle, then gives it back to me asking “open it please” because all this time he hasn’t stopped jerking himself and he can’t open it with one hand. This guys going to get there or die trying. I open it, give him a pill and he pops it in (his mouth). I thank the gods silently that they’re not suppositories….”Jamie, put it on the end of your cock and slip it in…”. No that would not happen. My cock is no longer hard enough so I join him jerking. I’ve had enough drama now so I help him get there by asking him if he’d like me to cum on him. This seems to get him going more and he says “in my mouth”. It does the trick and he climaxes as I’m in his mouth (can’t feel any pill in there…it must have gone down). After a few minutes laying there to chill I feel it’s the appropriate time to ask him what the pill was for. “It’s my heart Jamie, I have a condition”. He’s still laying there, eyes closed, and alive thankfully. I look at the pill box, they’re prescription strength rheumatoid arthritis pills (I know the pill, my mum takes them). I ponder this for a while…I check he’s still breathing. “Tom, are these the right pills?” I say, giving him the bottle. “Were they in my jacket?” he asks…keeping his eyes closed but gesturing to his jacket which I’m sure has now appeared hanging on the back of a chair by the window…
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It’s a nightmare scenario. Definitely not worth even entertaining. I wouldn’t know what to do if confronted with someone overdosing. I’m so naive on all that. I don’t even drink alcohol 😂 and poppers make me feel nauseous!
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I do out calls but they’re mostly within London area. The reason I don’t travel much is because most clients book for an in call. Also, I’m based in the middle of a city of 10m people which has 30m visitors a year. There’s no need to travel, the world comes to London 🙂. I think also the signals you get from what’s said in a text exchange are reliable indicators of whether someone is serious or just a time waster: ’Hi I’d like to book a session on x day at x time please’ or ‘I’m interested to book, do you do x’ or ‘I’m x years old and interested in booking is this ok?’ are all unlikely to be time wasters. ’Hey’ (and nothing else), or ‘massage?’ Or a picture of his cock or ass is 99% going to be a waste of time. I’ve been working this for over 5 years. I know the busy months, weeks and days. It’s fairly predictable. A lot of clients are regular so there’s a pattern there.
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Learn by trial and error, over time you get to know what works and what doesn’t do you start to stack the odds in your favour. I used to accept or engage with clients who’d turn out to be time waters. Over time I recognised the signs so that now I can tell a time waster at 1000 yards! I know where to advertise, I know the patterns: when it’s busy, when it isn’t. It’s much less of a gamble. You find a modus operandi that works, then keep tweaking.
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I’ve had a few clients ask if I do PNP or if it’s ok if they take something during the session…I say ‘no, and that I’d rather they didn’t take anything stronger than use poppers’. It’s up to them what they do but I’m not having it in my session. A friend who also works in the business got into using crystal meth. I first met him when he was newly into making porn and escorting. We connected and I made a few films with him and saw a few clients with him. We had a lot of fun both working and socially. Then he got into drugs and I saw his decline from someone beautiful with a sweet heart to someone who aged 10 years in a single year, looking awful and behaving strangely. Fortunately he’s escaped the trap now, and is getting back to his real self but he stopped escorting because he said it brought him into contact with drugs. I’m surprised by that because it’s not my experience but I think the whole scene he was involved in (parties etc) was the problem.
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Guys on hookup apps becoming suddenly prudent
+ Jamie21 replied to ShortCutie7's topic in The Lounge
Yes, most likely explanation is they got off on the chat. Once they short their load they weren’t interested any more. Lots of guys have some kind of internalised shame about their sexual urges. Once they’ve cum the shame resurfaces resulting in this change of behaviour. Best avoid those types if possible. -
SMALL ISSUES WITH PROVIDERS THAT GIVE A BAD RAP
+ Jamie21 replied to ICTJOCK's topic in Questions About Hiring
That’s so bad. I mean just sooooo shit of them. I’m sorry for you. That kind of behaviour isn’t a peeve it’s a big flapping red flag with flashing warning lights. Stuff can happen that prevents one from fulfilling a commitment but to just be silent and then come up with some lame excuse last minute is unprofessional in the extreme. It strikes me that these guys who you scheduled with view their clients as suckers who they can mess around with impunity. There’s an arrogance and dismissive attitude in their behaviour which probably is evident if you did actually get to meet them. In that respect you might consider it a lucky escape. -
Clients and escorts getting lost? Myth or sad reality?
+ Jamie21 replied to marylander1940's topic in Questions About Hiring
Oh yes I understand there’s big hopes for Ange at Spurs this season. God help him. -
Clients and escorts getting lost? Myth or sad reality?
+ Jamie21 replied to marylander1940's topic in Questions About Hiring
Oh wow @mike carey so it is! That’s only about 10,500 miles to my studio. If my client inadvertently goes there I can only imagine the conversation… Me ‘hi, are you close?’ Client ‘I can’t find your place…you said 5 minutes walk from Tottenham?’ Me ‘what can you see near you?’ Client ‘um….desert.’ Me ‘dessert? Are you in a restaurant?’ Client ‘no, I’m Tottenham, NSW’ Me ‘oh…turn around and head to Sydney, take the flight to Singapore, then to LHR, then hop on the Elizabeth line to Tottenham Court Road…I’ll see you tomorrow…’ -
Clients and escorts getting lost? Myth or sad reality?
+ Jamie21 replied to marylander1940's topic in Questions About Hiring
I have a tried and tested (iteratively) address message that I give to clients. Most find me. A few get lost and then it’s a case of messaging on WhatsApp…”where are you?, what can you see?” as I try to understand where they have got themselves to. I think people unfamiliar with London get confused easily. I describe my place as being close to Tottenham Court Road station, which is very central in London but I had one client see the word Tottenham and assume that I was in that part of town (if you know London you’ll know it’s a totally different area and much less central). He said ‘North London?’. I said ‘no, it’s central’ but he didn’t respond after that. I guess he put Tottenham into Google maps and decided ‘no thanks!’. These days with smartphones and online maps it’s much more difficult to get lost than it used to be. It’s usually the last 50 metres that’s the difficult bit. -
PHYSICAL AND/OR MENTAL ATTRACTION TO ESCORT WORK
+ Jamie21 replied to ICTJOCK's topic in Questions About Hiring
I’m not sure it’s an addiction, but I think there is a risk of becoming reliant on it. Either because the monetary rewards can be good (although unreliable), or because one becomes accustomed to having clients validate you. It’s like being an actor who craves the audience applause. Having clients leave happy and come back regularly for me is a great boost to the self esteem! -
I think you probably are. You won’t get him to respond to questions like that. He’s focused on your pleasure. Anyone doing this work with any degree of success will be able to give you the impression he’s also enjoying it, to the extent that you wouldn’t be able to tell whether that’s genuine or not. Also, one of the main reasons guys do this work is because being hired is a turn on in itself. Simply by you hiring him, and enjoying what he does for you is what gets him going. I know that’s the case for me, if a client is having a great time then that is exciting for me. The more my client is enjoying himself then the more I enjoy it. Clients ask ‘do you like x or y or whatever’ and the answer is ‘if it turns you on to do it then yes I like it’ (within reason of course!). So I think you’ll find it futile to ask what he likes, because you won’t get an answer. The best way to feel that he’s enjoying it is to relax and enjoy yourself. You’re the client after all.
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On Masseurfinder, what does "intuitive" mean?
+ Jamie21 replied to Massageluva80's topic in Spas & Masseurs
Definitely. They’re very strict about anything sexual. My ad got refused. I’m thinking in this context ‘intuitive’ means ‘I’ll intuitively get you hard and I’ll intuitively deal with it’… -
If you’re only monetising your sex life it probably won’t work. Clients will see through that. You’ll need to offer more than “I’m available to get fucked”. Clients want to feel that you’re interested in their pleasure just as much as it’s fun for you. So I’d suggest if you can get that mindset and approach it will work sustainably.
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Yes massage can vary a lot. Some of my clients like the massage to include bdsm elements like smacking, use of a paddle on their ass, cock and ball slapping and torture, mixing in light touch with feathers and brushes etc. But I think the key is variety and surprise. Will the next touch be sensual or dominant? Where will it be? Having your balls randomly tickled, licked or slapped is extremely erotic to many.
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ESCORT APPEARANCE: What do you expect when you meet your escort?
+ Jamie21 replied to ICTJOCK's topic in The Lounge
If I’m doing an out call to a client’s hotel, and it’s a good hotel then I dress, and walk in, as if I own the place. Especially if I happen to be carrying my massage table. If it’s an out call to a cheap hotel…well that doesn’t happen…so it’s moot 🙂. If they’re coming to me then I dress provocatively, or as requested. This strategy seems to work.
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