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@MmM and others who tip at a spa but not for a private masseur… serious question, not trying to attack you or be a hater. I agree each person can do what works for them.
 
My question: Does this mean you would never tip a provider for escort services when it’s an in call? After all, they are self employed as well.
 
In my mind a tip means “thanks, that was good,” full stop. I don’t really understand the rationale of not tipping based on where the service happens. Not that your approach is wrong of course, since tipping is optional anyway. 
A masseur who has a private business out of their place has gone to more trouble than a spa employee: setting up a website or online booking service, dedicating a space in their home to the activity, having a table, having to deal with the dirty towels, etc. Sure, they don’t have to give a cut to the house but that’s because they went to some extra effort. Don’t they deserve a tip if the experience itself was good, just like a spa employee? 


 

And one last thought: You big tippers produce price pressures that will eventually bring about hyperinflation and destroy world order. So stop it!  

@MmM and others who tip at a spa but not for a private masseur… serious question, not trying to attack you or be a hater. I agree each person can do what works for them.
 
My question: Does this mean you would never tip a provider for escort services when it’s an in call? After all, they are self employed as well.
 
In my mind a tip means “thanks, that was good,” full stop. I don’t really understand the rationale of not tipping based on where the service happens. Not that your approach is wrong of course, since tipping is optional anyway. 
A masseur who has a private business out of their place has gone to more trouble than a spa employee: setting up a website or online booking service, dedicating a space in their home to the activity, having a table, having to deal with the dirty towels, etc. Sure, they don’t have to give a cut to the house but that’s because they went to some extra effort. Don’t they deserve a tip if the experience itself was good, just like a spa employee? 


 

I keep it simple. 20% of the rate. More if he went overtime and didn’t charge me for it, which does happen sometimes. 

I found it impossible to enjoy bottoming until my early 30s. Believe me I tried. I wanted to know what the big deal was.
 
Bodies change, yours can too. If you are able to enjoy it in a self-love session, you can learn to enjoy it with a guy. My suggestion, get a smallish plug. Leave it in for an extended period (an hour or so). Do this on a regular basis. Eventually you learn to get much more comfortable with the sensation, so it helps to relax oneself, both physically and mentally, so that a cock is possible. 
 
And poppers. Lots of poppers. 

It's because the workers at a spa get 1/3 of what you pay. They deserve at least the going rate for providing a good massage. If more is provided , then I tip accordingly. In the end I pay close to what I would pay a private masseur for a service well executed. It's not my concern what their business model is; my concern is whether I'm paying equitably for the service I get. Some private masseurs charge 300 for their masseur service; would that still demand a tip? The market rate for a good massage is 120-150 for 60 min. For me, anything else above that would be a 'tip' based on what else transpires. A 200 fee for a massage is a $150 rate and a built in $50 tip because of the expectations beyond the massage (including eye candy). Again, my 2 cents. Take it or leave it. 

I became sexually active fairly young (17), so most of the gay men with whom I had sex in the early years were older than I was, and most wanted to, or expected to, fuck me. They seemed to stereotype me as a "twink," since I was average height (5'10") and very slender, and I was attracted to taller men who were well built and hairy, so they often were taken aback when I resisted the classic script. As a result, when they did fuck me, I was usually less than enthusiastic about it, and rarely maintained an erection while being fucked.
The first time that I discovered that getting fucked could actually be pleasurable occurred in my early 20s. I was a regular at a local gay bar in Philadelphia, and one of the bartenders was a favorite with many customers. I found him physically and personally very attractive, and I was told by other regulars that he had a big cock and loved to fuck, and he was good at it. One night he suggested at closing that he would like to accompany me to my apartment, and I said yes. Because I liked him and already knew what to expect, I was relaxed and prepared to make the best of the experience. When we tumbled into bed we were still partly dressed, and he quickly took me from behind. He whispered sweet nothings in my ear as he slowly fucked me while jerking me off, and to my own surprise I came explosively at the same time he did! It wasn't until he withdrew that I saw his cock, and was shocked at the size of it--how could I possibly have taken that?! The answer, of course, was that I was strongly attracted to him, was psychologically prepared, and he was an expert at what he did to make me enjoy the whole physical and emotional experience. Unfortunately, it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience, but he did make me realize that it was possible.

I keep it simple. 20% of the rate. More if he went overtime and didn’t charge me for it, which does happen sometimes. 

I keep it simple. 20% of the rate. More if he went overtime and didn’t charge me for it, which does happen sometimes. 

I keep it simple. 20% of the rate. More if he went overtime and didn’t charge me for it, which does happen sometimes. 

As a gay man of a certain age, the most notable thing about Sears for me was that at a very early age I could see pictures of men in their underwear in the Sears catalog. There was nothing else available that was even remotely sexual, so that was the best I could find.
 
To this day I have a specific fetish tied to using that catalogue as a form of porn.

I paid his rate. 🤔. I saved up and sampled his wares cause I have wanted to for a while now. 😉😝😝🤭

Never tell them you’re paying in cash. They will negotiate a better price if they think they will get you to use their financing  since they get a kickback on the loan. Just make sure the loan has no prepayment penalty.
Once you buy the car and you’re happy with it, use your cash to pay off the balance 
The loan also serves as leverage if the car turns out to be a lemon from the start.

Ok, had to laugh at that one. Clever. 

Came back to this thread to let you all know that I had my first ever meeting with a provider this morning and it was absolutely worth the $360 I spent!  I won’t (financially or time-wise) be able to do this regularly, but I had no reason to worry and left very happy.  That said, we didn’t get to do everything I had intended- the guy really followed my lead.  

Well I for was sad about the switch.  I think when I first noticed you early in my hiring career you listed as verse or verse/top. At that time I never hired anyone from another state.
You will always be fuckable to me... although, I'm sure you're a great doler. 😛

I get where you’re coming from, but off the top of my head…
Guys who are serious about the gym often like strict routines. It’s how they achieve amazing results. Some even see the gym as a job, it’s part of the work that enables them to be successful in everything else, including escorting. 
Maybe he has a trainer booked and can’t reschedule every time a possible client expresses interest. 
 
Or he has enough clients already, so doesn’t need to upset his routine to take an extra one. Not everyone wants to maximize.
 

I get where you’re coming from, but off the top of my head…
Guys who are serious about the gym often like strict routines. It’s how they achieve amazing results. Some even see the gym as a job, it’s part of the work that enables them to be successful in everything else, including escorting. 
Maybe he has a trainer booked and can’t reschedule every time a possible client expresses interest. 
 
Or he has enough clients already, so doesn’t need to upset his routine to take an extra one. Not everyone wants to maximize.
 

This thread is about the Natural History museum and there is a category difference between displaying indigenous artefacts in such a museum and displaying indigenous art in gallery. Displaying art is more likely to give indigenous people agency in a way that treating them as part of 'nature' does not.

I get where you’re coming from, but off the top of my head…
Guys who are serious about the gym often like strict routines. It’s how they achieve amazing results. Some even see the gym as a job, it’s part of the work that enables them to be successful in everything else, including escorting. 
Maybe he has a trainer booked and can’t reschedule every time a possible client expresses interest. 
 
Or he has enough clients already, so doesn’t need to upset his routine to take an extra one. Not everyone wants to maximize.
 

I get where you’re coming from, but off the top of my head…
Guys who are serious about the gym often like strict routines. It’s how they achieve amazing results. Some even see the gym as a job, it’s part of the work that enables them to be successful in everything else, including escorting. 
Maybe he has a trainer booked and can’t reschedule every time a possible client expresses interest. 
 
Or he has enough clients already, so doesn’t need to upset his routine to take an extra one. Not everyone wants to maximize.
 

That’s odd. What did you say you wanted to do? Cuddle the whole time? 😜

I get where you’re coming from, but off the top of my head…
Guys who are serious about the gym often like strict routines. It’s how they achieve amazing results. Some even see the gym as a job, it’s part of the work that enables them to be successful in everything else, including escorting. 
Maybe he has a trainer booked and can’t reschedule every time a possible client expresses interest. 
 
Or he has enough clients already, so doesn’t need to upset his routine to take an extra one. Not everyone wants to maximize.
 

There’s a very common reason for it that you haven’t mentioned. A resting face looks much younger than a smiling one. Minimized crows feet, marionette lines, bags under the eyes, etc.

I get where you’re coming from, but off the top of my head…
Guys who are serious about the gym often like strict routines. It’s how they achieve amazing results. Some even see the gym as a job, it’s part of the work that enables them to be successful in everything else, including escorting. 
Maybe he has a trainer booked and can’t reschedule every time a possible client expresses interest. 
 
Or he has enough clients already, so doesn’t need to upset his routine to take an extra one. Not everyone wants to maximize.