newdad Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Where there's pretty much a plenty, and laws against it is not really enforced? + Vegas_Millennial and Marc in Calif 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippo5 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Barcelona's always a good bet, especially with Sauna Thermas. London has loads, and Villa Giani. ICTJOCK, newdad, + Axiom2001 and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 no city in Europe compares to Bangkok - that’s in a league of its own. If someone is looking for that type experience, they will be disappointed. the best overall European cities for providers imo are Barcelona & Madrid, lots of options & reasonable rates. London is there too, but with rates generally higher than Spain. DMICS, soloyo215, newdad and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newdad Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: no city in Europe compares to Bangkok - that’s in a league of its own. If someone is looking for that type experience, they will be disappointed. the best overall European cities for providers imo are Barcelona & Madrid, lots of options & reasonable rates. London is there too, but with rates generally higher than Spain. what your experience with Bangkok like? Care to share? Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 44 minutes ago, newdad said: what your experience with Bangkok like? in Bangkok, there is sex available in almost every context - massage shops (most with extras), gogo bars (where is the business model is to take guys off-site), saunas (not rentboy saunas) host bars, & dozens of providers available online through various sites. no other city has all those options - not even close imo newdad, DMICS, pubic_assistance and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 hours ago, newdad said: Where there's pretty much a plenty, and laws against it is not really enforced? Madrid and Barcelona by far! Legal, reasonably priced, plenty of choices to meet guys in brothels, bars, cruising areas (Montjuic), etc. Obviously the younger and in better shape you're the more likely to get it for free but we're on this site for a reason. DMICS, newdad and Capitano 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloyo215 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I agree about Madrid and Barcelona being the closest to Bangkok in that respect. Never been to London. However, I've never experienced negative attitude in Bangkok, whereas in Spain I did. Had fun anyway, but some providers could do better if they lose their overinflated ego. Just my experience, my opinion, not law. newdad and Capitano 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, soloyo215 said: I agree about Madrid and Barcelona being the closest to Bangkok in that respect. Never been to London. However, I've never experienced negative attitude in Bangkok, whereas in Spain I did. Had fun anyway, but some providers could do better if they lose their overinflated ego. Just my experience, my opinion, not law. There are good and bad hires in all markets. Overinflated ego sometimes is in the eyes of the beholder (client). soloyo215 and + DERRIK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 26 minutes ago, soloyo215 said: I agree about Madrid and Barcelona being the closest to Bangkok in that respect. Never been to London. However, I've never experienced negative attitude in Bangkok, whereas in Spain I did. Had fun anyway, but some providers could do better if they lose their overinflated ego. Just my experience, my opinion, not law. agree there was no attitude whatsoever in Bangkok - although the sex is often not totally straightforward. In the massage shops, I think it can be very hit or miss, depending on the shop & the “therapist”. never experienced attitudes in Spain and many different experiences over the years - while they don’t have the venues as in Bangkok, it’s a very straightforward transaction w providers in that you know what you’re going to get. And then there is Thermas in BCN, which has been written about extensively in other threads. soloyo215 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newdad Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 16 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: in Bangkok, there is sex available in almost every context - massage shops (most with extras), gogo bars (where is the business model is to take guys off-site), saunas (not rentboy saunas) host bars, & dozens of providers available online through various sites. no other city has all those options - not even close imo What's the rate in Bangkok for providers like since there's a bunch of them? Is it still like around $300 USD? + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, newdad said: What's the rate in Bangkok for providers like since there's a bunch of them? Is it still like around $300 USD? $300 is a very high rate in Bangkok. But, it depends on where you source providers. RM of course will have the highest rates & only a couple foreigners (Americans) there asking $300. Most on RM are $120-$200. On other apps, the average is more like $65 -$100. I typically don’t like to source from the “apps”, but in Bangkok that’s how it’s done, especially on Hornet. In the massage shops it’s even less, but then you’re dealing with a charge for a “massage” and either a minimum tip or whatever you negotiate. The most straightforward massage shop I found was Arena - Silom adjacent. The real difference in Bangkok re; rates is if you’re paying for an hour or two of sex or a massage with some sex. Edited February 13 by SouthOfTheBorder newdad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newdad Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 5 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: $300 is a very high rate in Bangkok. But, it depends on where you source providers. RM of course will have the highest rates & only a couple foreigners (Americans) there asking $300. Most on RM are $120-$200. On other apps, the average is more like $65 -$100. I typically don’t like to source from the “apps”, but in Bangkok that’s how it’s done, especially on Hornet. In the massage shops it’s even less, but then you’re dealing with a charge for a “massage” and either a minimum tip or whatever you negotiate. The most straightforward massage shop I found was Arena - Silom adjacent. The real difference in Bangkok re; rates is if you’re paying for an hour or two of sex or a massage with some sex. Thanks! Very insightful. How were the guys on Hornet when you used it there? I'm not expecting RM caliber, but wondering if they would still appeal to a lot of people from this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 21 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: agree there was no attitude whatsoever in Bangkok - although the sex is often not totally straightforward. In the massage shops, I think it can be very hit or miss, depending on the shop & the “therapist”. never experienced attitudes in Spain and many different experiences over the years - while they don’t have the venues as in Bangkok, it’s a very straightforward transaction w providers in that you know what you’re going to get. And then there is Thermas in BCN, which has been written about extensively in other threads. you can't compare a 5th world country to Europe. Spaniards of all regions tend to be very handsome and to the point, no beating around the bush. Many guys who escort in Spain are from Brazil, Colombia, Argentina, etc. I had great times picking guys at Adonis near the Plaza Mayor pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 44 minutes ago, newdad said: Thanks! Very insightful. How were the guys on Hornet when you used it there? I'm not expecting RM caliber, but wondering if they would still appeal to a lot of people from this forum. Exactly, there are some Eastern European guys in Bangkok but they're the minority and usually available for higher rates in RM. This depiction of Bangkok as Heaven on Earth simply because of price is unrealistic. Take a look at the Bangkok page in RM! Edited February 13 by marylander1940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 19 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: This depiction of Bangkok as Heaven on Earth simply because of price is unrealistic. Have you been to Bangkok ? It's more about access and attitude in Bangkok. Their culture lacks the influence of the Catholic church which makes sex a shameful act. Homosexuality is also not considered "wrong". All this makes for an open and comfortable.marketplace when searching for a sexual companion. marylander1940, newdad, Marc in Calif and 3 others 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, marylander1940 said: Exactly, there are some Eastern European guys in Bangkok but they're the minority and usually available for higher rates in RM there were more Brazilians & Americans on RM in BKK than Eastern Europeans- not even close. There may be some difference depending on exact timing. There are a lot of Russians in Thailand but seemed to be more in Pattaya. doesn’t sound like you’ve been to Bangkok recently, if ever - lots of ultra luxury condo towers built & more under construction. The skyline is full of skyscrapers & really beautiful. Brand new shopping malls that make malls in the US look small & tired. Many luxury hotels & fine restaurants. Efficient & sparkling clean subway system & elevated rail lines. In many ways very sophisticated & modern - but of course this was in the core city and I didn’t see outlying areas. And it’s pretty much completely safe. Bangkok is the playground for rich Japanese, Chinese, Indians, Thais & more. It has everything anyone could want. Edited February 13 by SouthOfTheBorder newdad, pubic_assistance and MikeBiDude 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 18 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: there were more Brazilians & Americans on RM in BKK than Eastern Europeans- not even close. There may be some difference depending on exact timing. There are a lot of Russians in Thailand but seemed to be more in Pattaya. doesn’t sound like you’ve been to Bangkok recently- lots of ultra luxury condo towers built & more under construction. The skyline is full of skyscrapers & really beautiful. Brand new shopping malls that make malls in the US look small & tired. Many luxury hotels. And it’s completely safe. Bangkok is the playground for rich Japanese, Chinese, Indians. It has everything. I know, I just checked the RM page. Thanks for the correction! I was there in the 90's. The world was different! For a moment I thought you were going to say you live there now and own a 5 stars hotel 😃 hard to keep up! pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Their culture lacks the influence of the Catholic church which makes sex a shameful act. Homosexuality is also not considered "wrong". 100% true. Thai culture seems to have very little issue w gender either, thus the very visible ladyboy & trans presence in Bangkok. And the overall acceptance seems to include paid companions as well. I’ve never seen that degree of acceptance anywhere else. Once that feeling is understood by a visitor, then you are free to relax and really enjoy on a different level. + Vegas_Millennial, Marc in Calif, newdad and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc in Calif Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: It's more about access and attitude in Bangkok. Their culture lacks the influence of the Catholic church which makes sex a shameful act. Wow. That's a pretty myopic explanation -- euro-centric as well as a huge stretch of cultural extrapolation!😂 It's not the absence of Catholicism. It's the Buddhism, Historically as well as today, Buddhists practice tolerance and understanding in matters of sexual relations. Just start there when trying to explain "access and attitude." pubic_assistance, SirBillybob and marylander1940 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Marc in Calif said: It's not the absence of Catholicism. It's the Buddhism this is a more accurate way to make the point - yes. It could also be the absence of Catholicism/Christianity since Thailand was the only country in the region that avoided European colonization Edited February 13 by SouthOfTheBorder Marc in Calif and newdad 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ tassojunior Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Most pornstars live in Czech and in Prague rates are 200 and go down....... newdad, DMICS and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 46 minutes ago, Marc in Calif said: It's not the absence of Catholicism. It's the Buddhism, Potato / Potatoe I am speaking to an audience that's primarily American so lots of members here who suffered the anxiety of Catholic guilt about sex. MikeBiDude, SirBillybob and Marc in Calif 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokomaru Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said: Potato / Potatoe Ok, had to laugh at that one. Clever. pubic_assistance and SirBillybob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, tassojunior said: Most pornstars live in Czech and in Prague rates are 200 and go down....... If it's legal it's cheaper. SirBillybob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said: Potato / Potatoe I am speaking to an audience that's primarily American so lots of members here who suffered the anxiety of Catholic guilt about sex. Catholic? Why not evangelical or extreme Baptist? Mormon in minor scale although they keep growing in numbers. Not turning this into a religious discussion but we forget about other religion were folks like you and I are thrown out of business and despite that so many gorgeous guys are available in Dubai. Edited February 13 by marylander1940 Marc in Calif, SirBillybob and + Axiom2001 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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