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I like that response. Hopefully the provider in question realized he was the lead character in the soap opera called capitalism. 
Biggest price drop I was offered was from $600 to $200 if I came over right away.
Which reminds me … 
Red flag: providers who like to pretend like there’s a set of rules in this game, and “I said it so that’s the way it is” (until I say something different”
 
 

“I was filming for my Only Fans page, please subscribe, I’ll make more money off you that way”

As with so many of these questions there's no right answer and sometimes it’s about a providers preference, which of course should be respected, but the clients question also shouldn’t be seen as offensive.. My red flag is where when the response to such a neutral question results in anger or rudeness rather than a simple answer (I’d prefer no answer to rudeness).

And to add, most clients who expect the provider to host are incorporating the cost and effort of securing the venue into the rate agreed. So if the quoted rate is at what the client believes is market (including hosting costs) and there is then expectation for him to arrange a venue without a rate adjustment, the economics changes. I don’t know if hourly or cheap motels are an option in @Jarrod_Uncut’s geographies but in places like NYC and DC that’s a coin toss on who is absorbing $300+ for a last minute booking. 
 
 

Another thing to remember - we can leave trace of identity without realizing it - using the providers wifi, having Bluetooth devices that include our name that can be picked up on a pairing device if our settings allow etc - it’s often a matter of who is technically more savvy and actually wants to capture the info.
 

Was talking to someone I’ve know who works at one of the prominent bars in New York 
He was saying that one welcome change in his job over the past few years that he no longer has to clear used condoms from the floor after closing time which was the part of his job he hated 
 

What does “ask me” even mean? Is it “I’m too embarrassed to say it here” or “if you don’t ask no one needs to know” or what? Just adds an extra layer of ambiguity - which some may find exciting - and some may do to maximize clients - but I think makes things more awkward. 

It takes two - and if he is ok with bb and says “anything goes” he should be aware of a potential interpretation of that and if he had any boundaries around that he would speak up.
Particularly as a provider. 
Not getting into judgement or blame - just speaking practically. 

Instead of surveying us, why don’t providers curious as to competitor rates contact those providers they consider peers in their target geographies anonymously and generate their own research first hand?
Would save strawmen theories, conjecture on who is cheap and deserves to die etc 
As with the other dead horse subjects (deposits, photos etc) - providers don’t need our validation from here - try whatever you want and if it works for you, great! But just stating how some want the market to be here won’t automatically make it so. 

 
 
 
 

You just killed the need for this site …😉

You just killed the need for this site …😉

Non consensual behavior is not the norm and shouldn’t be tolerated. Sounds like an outlier. 
 

“I saw you on Grindr and would have hooked up with you for free, but just so you know I have a rule I never see a client out of work so that’s never going to happen” 

You just killed the need for this site …😉

They know that will make them look like an asshole to those who would make the cut for them on their criteria, but who are also good people. 
Have met several providers who say something like “open to all races / ages / body types etc” on their profile but have said to me (and I’m sure put in practice) that there’s no way they would engage with XYZ demographic … no different from people virtue signaling in online dating profiles saying similar things but in practice having clear boundaries based on such criteria. Which is fine hypocrisy aside  .. but … if you’re a provider, don’t expect the professional respect you say you crave if that’s the way you visibly operate based on documented behavior.

It was a surprise to me the first time a provider came as i always thought they’d be relieved to be able to save it for the next client. I didn’t know about Trimix etc at the time. 
I’ve had providers even act resentful if I didn’t allow them the opportunity or help them along the way (again a surprise, since I’ve always assumed providers don’t really get turned on by clients). 
So far so good, surprisingly hot.
The one area I have a problem with all this is when providers have sometimes used the “I need to get off” motif to extend time beyond what has been agreed - which would be fine (assuming I had the time … the assumption is always providers’ time is so valuable and clients abuse this) except it also often comes with a price tag. If a provider needs to come (and some have said they prefer to, allows them a clean break mentally and physically to whatever they have going on after a client leaves) then they should either plan the events accordingly within the agreed time, or so whatever is needed on their “own” time, with or without the client. 

Rather, don’t get caught faking or make it obvious. Isn’t most of the entire experience of client provider interaction fake (on the provider end surely)? The physical output aside, which I guess can’t be faked, a grand performance by a skilled performer if requested should be available. 
 

There is also a medical aspect - some addiction is physical where the body craves something and will react accordingly to the point of potentially shutting down if needs not met (this is the kind mothers can pass on to unborn kids). Other addiction is likely more mental and easier to hide (and treat).
Different PnP substances (and sometimes the manner of consumption) can affect the body and mind differently. 

Once met a visiting provider in nyc who surprisingly was hosting at an apartment. he had an air Mattress in a tiny living room ( carved out of a studio) and his host was a provider I randomly turned down earlier  (without knowing their connection) … because he said “my friend and his bf are visiting and may be here” and also tried to upsell a double / triple deal. 
The porn version of this story has a group scene with the host, his bf, my providers bf, the provider, and me all on the air mattress. The reality show has a lot of passive aggressive coming and going and slammed doors in the rest of the tiny apartment - they had all worked out it was me speaking to both providers during the day. My provider even asked me to give the donation to the host as he owed him “rent money” so there was this symbolic game they made me play of ultimately  paying the provider I turned down. 
My other ridiculous NY accommodation  story had me going to the restroom about 40 mins into a session and being warned “oh my roommate is in there, it’s raining so he stayed indoors  … just ignore hkm”

If that’s your only option I’d say go! These businesses can’t survive if relying only on two nights a week so I’m sure they have traffic at other times, maybe just different crowds 

I didn’t know what Mr Number was until a year after being on this site - and 5-6 years after seeing providers regularly. In my case using a burner had nothing to do with my reputation on MrN. And I assume many others aren’t focused on that logic either.  
A burner number isn’t fake - it just can’t be traced through regular background checks (until it can - the more someone uses it info builds up). If what you’re really saying is you need someone’s name, ability to run background checks on them etc - and you need their “real” number for that, to build up leverage, that’s a different matter. 
My Mr Number reputation is stellar. It says I’m sweet but get annoyed if kept waiting. Someone tried leaving something nasty and I got it removed because a provider alerted me while we were meeting - wasn’t a problem for him. 
Here’s more advice for clients: I’ve rarely met a provider who had a problem with my burner number. If they ever did I would Move on and they would lose my business. Because in my experience the odds are 90% it’s not a problem. 
 

Providers who insist on real numbers will likely lose more business from that policy than from time lost because of ghosting / flaming burner users. As with asking for photos.
 
 
 
 

I assume every age listed is incorrect along with several other of the filtering stats. I assume I could imagine the person in front of me could play someone that age in a movie convincingly though and if they can’t - while not a dealbreaker for me I’d question their EQ more than integrity, 
My favorite lie that I caught was a Hispanic guy from Connecticut who put on a fake accent and claimed he was recently arrived from Argentina.
I asked him a few questions related to his home country, where I traveled to regularly  at the time for work, when first meeting, not to diligence but to make conversation and out of genuine interest, and he begged to be let back to his normal persona.
But he did explain that his bookings would go up considerably when he presented himself as the exotic visitor with lust that only those south of the equator can channel. 

Future posts on this forum: “potential clients who never have intention of hiring waste my time asking me all these stupid questions …” 😊