Seeking arrangements success!

[MikeBiDude]

27 minutes ago, peter803 said:

So good to hear you guys had success. I'm stuck in the hotel lonely and pissed. Have been talking to this good-looking guy in a small town 60 miles south of  Boston. He was so sweet and eager during the past one week of texting and video chatting, so I booked the hotel and hopped on a plane from the South. Things then went south after that. Very few communications. The only one he had is for half the allowance up front to meet in person. Of course I refused. Now I'm stuck in the hotel till Monday. I still couldn't figure out what signals I missed. Everything was so perfect until I boarded the flight. Is this the new trick of scammers? 

I wouldn’t call it a scam…I mean he didn’t get anything from you?

I think sometimes these young men don’t really consider or think what they’re getting into….until the reality hits. So this guy was a ways from you and you took a shot…I personally would never do that without a coffee/lunch date first. Although I’ve gotten better at figuring who is real or who is not…I would still rarely fly to someone without more of an understanding.

That said…I did it once and it turned into one of the best arrangements I’ve had yet, still ongoing. But I’d been conversing with the young man for 18 months (during Covid shutdowns)

Don’t  beat yourself up, like I said these guys “chicken out” when it gets real sometimes.

[peter803]

On 8/13/2022 at 9:03 PM, MikeBiDude said:

I wouldn’t call it a scam…I mean he didn’t get anything from you?

I think sometimes these young men don’t really consider or think what they’re getting into….until the reality hits. So this guy was a ways from you and you took a shot…I personally would never do that without a coffee/lunch date first. Although I’ve gotten better at figuring who is real or who is not…I would still rarely fly to someone without more of an understanding.

That said…I did it once and it turned into one of the best arrangements I’ve had yet, still ongoing. But I’d been conversing with the young man for 18 months (during Covid shutdowns)

Don’t  beat yourself up, like I said these guys “chicken out” when it gets real sometimes.

Thank you for your advice. I'm sort of new to this, especially flying out. In your experience or opinion, is it advisable to put 50% upfront? 

 

[MikeBiDude]

1 hour ago, peter803 said:

Thank you for your advice. I'm sort of new to this, especially flying out. In your experience or opinion, is it advisable to put 50% upfront? 

 

In a word, no. I tell guys the first coffee/lunch is a “no obligation” meet. We often go on from that to more fun…and more allowance. But if that initial meet doesn’t work out I send them home with a gas gift card, or a small amount for their trouble.

I never send anything first, let alone 50%.

[Skip]

9 hours ago, peter803 said:

Thank you for your advice. I'm sort of new to this, especially flying out. In your experience or opinion, is it advisable to put 50% upfront? 

 

I usually bring them to me if it's the first time or look around where you might not mind going anywhere. I get to NYC regularly so I look around there. But who am I to say, my current arrangment lives on the West Coast, I live on the East. It's a great arrangment but can be pricey! Good luck. 

[TheBx]

On 8/7/2022 at 8:41 AM, BetweenTheSheets said:

More to the point, "crack dealers" (which i wonder whether or not it is a coded reference to something quite different) want to avoid drawing the attention of law enforcement, not encouraging it.

just a simple business calculus.

I think you’re correct about “coded”

[Guest Jnich]

As a guy who never really had to worry about money, is it unheard of for guys in their 20s to be ‘Sugar Daddies?’

I’ve used RM for to hire attractive escorts (early to mid 20s) however, I often find the experience purely transactional.
Hookup apps such as sniffles have little to no guys who fit my criteria (my age (early 20s), athletic, fitness model, frat bro, etc).

I might resort to SA to really find that missing piece. Would you guys recommend pursuing?

[MscleLovr]

1 hour ago, Jnich said:

might resort to SA to really find that missing piece. Would you guys recommend pursuing

Seeking requires time and patience. I don’t know how busy your daily life is, but the initial contacts, filtering and one-off dates may consume a lot of your time. 

 

1 hour ago, Jnich said:

is it unheard of for guys in their 20s to be ‘Sugar Daddies?’

Not unheard of, but certainly unusual. 

 

1 hour ago, Jnich said:

guys who fit my criteria (my age (early 20s), athletic, fitness model, frat bro, etc).

These guys are the ideal for many men. If the guys are well-balanced but inexperienced, they may not realise how desirable they are. 
 

My guess @Jnich is that many young guys may want to meet you - note they may be flaky - but they may be unsure how to behave around you if you’re both the same age but you have all the resources.
 

Bear in mind that the older/younger dynamic has various aspects: it’s definitely not just ‘monied/fit-bodied’. Quite a few young men want an older man in their life. They like the maturity of an older man, as well as enjoying the attention and being taken care of. And of course, not having to worry about money (as you put it earlier) makes life much easier. 

[Guest Jnich]

7 hours ago, MscleLovr said:

Seeking requires time and patience. I don’t know how busy your daily life is, but the initial contacts, filtering and one-off dates may consume a lot of your time. 

 

Not unheard of, but certainly unusual. 

 

These guys are the ideal for many men. If the guys are well-balanced but inexperienced, they may not realise how desirable they are. 
 

My guess @Jnich is that many young guys may want to meet you - note they may be flaky - but they may be unsure how to behave around you if you’re both the same age but you have all the resources.
 

Bear in mind that the older/younger dynamic has various aspects: it’s definitely not just ‘monied/fit-bodied’. Quite a few young men want an older man in their life. They like the maturity of an older man, as well as enjoying the attention and being taken care of. And of course, not having to worry about money (as you put it earlier) makes life much easier. 

Thank you. My main hesitation is if these guys be inclined for a FWB arrangement with someone their own age. I might just pull the trigger. On a side note, all of you guys on the forum are pretty amazing.

[+ DrownedBoy]

15 hours ago, Jnich said:

As a guy who never really had to worry about money, is it unheard of for guys in their 20s to be ‘Sugar Daddies?’

When I was in my 20s, I had a wealthy acquaintance my own age who always kept an unemployed sugar boy in his house. Money is money.

[+ purplekow]

15 hours ago, Jnich said:

As a guy who never really had to worry about money, is it unheard of for guys in their 20s to be ‘Sugar Daddies?’

I’ve used RM for to hire attractive escorts (early to mid 20s) however, I often find the experience purely transactional.
Hookup apps such as sniffles have little to no guys who fit my criteria (my age (early 20s), athletic, fitness model, frat bro, etc).

I might resort to SA to really find that missing piece. Would you guys recommend pursuing?

I may be naive but your post indicates to me that you are looking for purely a transactional relationship and as a result, that is what you are finding.  Perhaps searching for a friend with benefits or something more than that will only happen if you get out of your comfort zone.  Money is indeed an aphrodisiac for many, but perhaps you need to find a way of meeting someone where many is not the attraction.  You do not say why money is not an issue or what you do with your day, but perhaps you should consider doing something different.  Travel in different circles perhaps.  When I was single, I found I had the most success in meeting someone when I was not looking and was just going about my day.  Be open, honest, approachable and friendly and perhaps you will find someone who is interested in you more than in Ben Franklin and his brothers.  I wish you luck in meeting someone who is looking past your finances to find your worth.  

[fedssocr1]

There is definitely a good bit of work to do. Prepare to get contacted by lots of guys from all over the place. If you live in a big city you'll have more luck. I think being very specific about what you are looking for is a good idea. And don't feel bad about not responding to everyone.

My current sugar baby is a very sweet Indian university student. I think he's really looking for a daddy since his own parents are homophobic. And he arrived here all on his own so I think he's happy to have some emotional support. But it's the most success I've had so far. I've really been enjoying our time together.

And another guy that I'm currently helping who I met on the site is also looking for an emotionally stable older man since his mother is crazy and his father died a few years ago. So, I guess what I'm saying is, a lot of guys on the site have issues. Be prepared for that.

[Luv2play]

I grew up in a different age with no internet or cell phones. One went out to socialize. As I approached my 30 th year I had a secure job, a rapidly increasing income so that I could buy my first home, buy an expensive sports car to go with  my day to day one, and travel internationally monthly with my job.

In other words I had it made. I never had trouble bedding guys and while I had boyfriends that lasted months or a year or so, I never found the right guy. Never even thought of "buying" a partner. 

Today I rent. 

[Guest Jnich]

39 minutes ago, purplekow said:

I may be naive but your post indicates to me that you are looking for purely a transactional relationship and as a result, that is what you are finding.  Perhaps searching for a friend with benefits or something more than that will only happen if you get out of your comfort zone.  Money is indeed an aphrodisiac for many, but perhaps you need to find a way of meeting someone where many is not the attraction.  You do not say why money is not an issue or what you do with your day, but perhaps you should consider doing something different.  Travel in different circles perhaps.  When I was single, I found I had the most success in meeting someone when I was not looking and was just going about my day.  Be open, honest, approachable and friendly and perhaps you will find someone who is interested in you more than in Ben Franklin and his brothers.  I wish you luck in meeting someone who is looking past your finances to find your worth.  

You are definitely not naive. I’ve only met with these types of guys a handful of times. Because they were all my age (fit lacrosse/ frat bros), perception kept both them and me from going farther. I’m not sure if it’s an insatiable lust I have for guys my own age or just aching to be part of the guys (with benefits). I think SA provides those precise closeted straight guys I’ve been looking for while also putting me in a position to have fun.

[Guest Jnich]

35 minutes ago, fedssocr1 said:

There is definitely a good bit of work to do. Prepare to get contacted by lots of guys from all over the place. If you live in a big city you'll have more luck. I think being very specific about what you are looking for is a good idea. And don't feel bad about not responding to everyone.

My current sugar baby is a very sweet Indian university student. I think he's really looking for a daddy since his own parents are homophobic. And he arrived here all on his own so I think he's happy to have some emotional support. But it's the most success I've had so far. I've really been enjoying our time together.

And another guy that I'm currently helping who I met on the site is also looking for an emotionally stable older man since his mother is crazy and his father died a few years ago. So, I guess what I'm saying is, a lot of guys on the site have issues. Be prepared for that.

I do live within a city and Ivy League College Town on the east coast so hopefully with a bit of digging, I’ll definitely find what I’m looking for. If only RM had more discreet college athletes though.

[Guest Jnich]

1 hour ago, DrownedBoy said:

When I was in my 20s, I had a wealthy acquaintance my own age who always kept an unemployed sugar boy in his house. Money is money.

That sounds intriguing.

[guru68]

I always find it interesting when a guy has ads on both Seeking and an escort site like Rentmen - makes me wonder how the experiences differ, if they do.

[tennisjock]

I have  learned you need to take the conversation away from SA a burner phone or specific email as soon as possible or risk your out of context messages could get u banned even when responding to a question posed. 

 . I was banned for a year because one sugar baby asked what i liked in the bedroom and i replied and i got banned for

 being “suggestive” .

 

seriously 2 weeks into a prepaid 1 year contract … learned my lesson to keep it vague tiL off SA and then open up off the site 

Edited November 1, 2022 by tennisjock

[Guest Jnich]

On 9/22/2020 at 4:56 PM, GTMike said:

Not a random question if you ask me. If that is what you're seeking eventually you should be able to find it. (However, i admit i live in an area with a lot of colleges and universities). It's not a hard rule for me but i naturally tend to gravitate toward the College aged athletes. I've been perusing SA off and on for ~ 3 to 4 years and i have met and hung out with a current or former collegiate football player, a swimmer, volleyball player, basketball player and conversing with a Lacrosse player now, (all currently aged 21-25).

I know it’s been two years but how has that gone for you? Currently in your boat and cold use some advice. Feel free to PM. 

[Guest Jnich]

On 9/23/2020 at 4:12 PM, fedssocr1 said:

definitely there are some athletes. I met one swimmer who was on his school team...but hated it. Since the scholarship mattered though he kept doing it.I also corresponded with a guy for a while who claimed to be a swimmer at a school in MN. I did some checking and it seemed legit. But he just wanted me to send him money for pretty much nothing.

 

Seem to be a lot of frat boys. I think they must all be networking with each other or something.

 

I hopped back on during the back to school sale.

Did you ever find success?

[Guest Jnich]

On 3/3/2021 at 11:56 AM, frankmon said:

I am flying a guy from Seeking to meet me in Vegas for 4 days. Of course I'm taking care of all travel and expenses while we are in Vegas, but nothing has been discussed in addition to that. He hasn't asked and seems thrilled to be going on an all expense paid trip for his Spring Break. Should I bring it up or just assume that the trip is enough? I do plan on giving him some spending money while we are there. He's a hot D1 college swimmer.

How’d that end up going?

[Guest Jnich]

On 9/19/2021 at 12:17 PM, Coolwave35 said:

I met a boy from seeking back in August as I often do. He’s 20 and gorgeous. He’s 6’1” with a giant Dick and beautiful ass. He’s on the row team for a top 20 University. He grew up poor.  What I asked from him was to help me be a better top.  His ask of me was to travel and learn how to make horizontal income. 

He spent the last two weeks of his Summer break in August at my house.  When we get together, we have the greatest time.  We go to sex shops and pick out toys that I can use to explore bringing pleasure to his prostrate.  

Our next trip together is to Paris in a few weeks.  We’re both really excited. 

I taught him how to identify products to sell on Amazon. He’s making $350 a week in profit and he just started before Labor Day. He’s really hungry to identify more products and his passion and ambition is a HUGE turn on. It’s also my first arrangement that isn’t transactional hour by hour, or meeting by meeting.  
 

For example; his compensation for Paris, per his proposal, is the travel itself. This is the first boy that I’m taking on a trip that isn’t being compensated for his time outside of the trip’s expenses. I’m worried that it’s a recipe for disaster but I agreed to it. He has a seeking mindset, not a rentmen mind set and it’s been very challenging for me to learn the difference.  When he spent the two weeks at my house, his compensation was a Prada wallet, some designer sunglasses, upgraded tech for his dorm room and a new iPad. It amounted to less than $2k for having his company in and out of the bedroom for two weeks. He was ecstatic but I had a hard time because I felt like I had taken advantage of him. This seeking thing really is a different world and a serious game changer to the traditional hiring experience. 
 

https://mega.nz/file/g41mGTpB#GVHSeKweGKsHAw72LN3v4ZY0Zrt1mWfUXvU_pGha9Rk

 

THIS is EXACTLY what I’m looking for. 

[MscleLovr]

5 hours ago, tennisjock said:

take the conversation away from SA a burner phone or specific email as soon as possible

@Jnich this is really good advice from @tennisjock If you’re using Seeking as your primary route to find guys, you don’t want to risk being barred from the site.
 

Just tell guys who interest you that you prefer to chat on your phone/email before meeting IRL. Be prepared to exchange clear pics early - headless or torso pics are fine. This is so you weed out no-hopers, such as guys who say they’re athletes but have recently stopped training and added 20lbs.
 

I guess from your posts here that you’re really keen to meet some guys, so spend time honing your profile/advert so that it sparks interest from fit, athletic guys. Think about what matters to you and your possible guys. Examples are “I’m versatile, and want you to be too” or “I’m happy to be discreet if that matters to you” or “I like to travel and I want a travel-buddy” or “I’m happy to pick up all the bills”.
 

Please ensure you arrange first dates as a low-key meeting in a public place in daylight - most guys are fine but there are homophobes etc out there and you have to think about your own safety. 

Report back on how it goes for you. I hope that soon you’ll be so busy with Seeking that you wonder where your free time went!
 

 

[+ Coolwave35]

4 hours ago, Jnich said:

THIS is EXACTLY what I’m looking for. 

While it lasted, it was amazing. We went to Paris. Had such a good time that we extended our trip and saw more of Europe.  We spent many weekends in the most gorgeous hotels in Manhattan. 

I became a better, more confident top through our practice sessions. His amazon store grew to $3,500 a month in profit. 

The need we had for each other gradually wained, the arrangement and relationship changed over the Spring.  I made the grave mistake of introducing him to my head sugar baby who is very protective of me. This led to an unpleasant conversation that hurt my feelings, thus ending the arrangement. 
 

We maintain a cordial though limited friendship  that is steadily tapering off.  Most of our texts center around “remember when.” And he keeps me abreast of his college progress and career prospects, but we’ve both moved on.

[MscleLovr]

2 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

I made the grave mistake of introducing him to my head sugar baby

I salute your candour @Coolwave35 but what an error!
 

You have my sympathy but I wonder what you felt you might achieve by doing this? Was there a rush of blood to your (little) head on the impulse that the 3 of you would play well together?

At any rate, I’m happy for you that you had such great times with him and now you can share fond memories of the fun you had together.

[pubic_assistance]

3 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

the arrangement and relationship changed over the Spring.  I made the grave mistake of introducing him to my head sugar baby who is very protective of me. This led to an unpleasant conversation that hurt my feelings, thus ending the arrangement. 

"Head Sugar Baby" ? Am I naive or does this seem like a formula for hurt feelings ? I have more experience dating women, than I do men, but I'm pretty sure that jealousy runs through everyone is varying proportions. Bad move.

Edited November 1, 2022 by pubic_assistance