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Do most guys require business class flights? I have solicited 3 guys from out of state to come to me due to my work schedule.. but all requiring a biz class flight which is 5x the normal economy flight lol. I get you trying to make money but I feel that deters people from hiring ?? Is it negotiable or have anyone tried? Perhaps have them fly the economy and pay them the difference instead of the airfare? Thoughts ? Does it make me seem cheap to negotiate 

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34 minutes ago, TheJusticeLeague said:

Do most guys require business class flights? I have solicited 3 guys from out of state to come to me due to my work schedule.. but all requiring a biz class flight which is 5x the normal economy flight lol. I get you trying to make money but I feel that deters people from hiring ?? Is it negotiable or have anyone tried? Perhaps have them fly the economy and pay them the difference instead of the airfare? Thoughts ? Does it make me seem cheap to negotiate 

Is the flight more than 3 hours? Do you expect him to get to work right after he steps off the plane? How long is the visit?  It may be a reasonable request...or not.  And yes, it may make you seem cheap depending on circumstances. 

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1 minute ago, KeepItReal said:

Is the flight more than 3 hours? Do you expect him to get to work right after he steps off the plane? How long is the visit?  It may be a reasonable request...or not.  And yes, it may make you seem cheap depending on circumstances. 

Ahh that makes sensei guess. Didn’t see it in that perspective. Flight is about 5 hours lol and no I don’t expect work right after.. I mean I was hoping to get drinks and just mingle a little before the “fun stuff.” But the price is like a $1600 difference in business vs economy. It’s a 3 day trip I’m looking at. No problem paying for overnight of asking but the biz class seems little extra when I don’t travel biz myself. 

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3 hours ago, TheJusticeLeague said:

Do most guys require business class flights? I have solicited 3 guys from out of state to come to me due to my work schedule.. but all requiring a biz class flight which is 5x the normal economy flight lol. I get you trying to make money but I feel that deters people from hiring ?? Is it negotiable or have anyone tried? Perhaps have them fly the economy and pay them the difference instead of the airfare? Thoughts ? Does it make me seem cheap to negotiate 

No.

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5 hours ago, TheJusticeLeague said:

Do most guys require business class flights? I have solicited 3 guys from out of state to come to me due to my work schedule.. but all requiring a biz class flight which is 5x the normal economy flight lol. I get you trying to make money but I feel that deters people from hiring ?? Is it negotiable or have anyone tried? Perhaps have them fly the economy and pay them the difference instead of the airfare? Thoughts ? Does it make me seem cheap to negotiate 

I have had both bought for me. Either is fine. 

A business class flight is appreciated but not required.

If the trip is for more than a weekend I will need to have carry on bag added not just the overnight personal item sized bag - thats all.  If a guy is going to miss out on a booking like that because he is demanding business class flight, find someone else. 

 

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9 hours ago, TheJusticeLeague said:

Do most guys require business class flights? I have solicited 3 guys from out of state to come to me due to my work schedule.. but all requiring a biz class flight which is 5x the normal economy flight lol. I get you trying to make money but I feel that deters people from hiring ?? Is it negotiable or have anyone tried? Perhaps have them fly the economy and pay them the difference instead of the airfare? Thoughts ? Does it make me seem cheap to negotiate 

I'm sure certain providers operate under the notion that if you already can afford to fly people to you from out of state on top of possibly covering their hotel, and their actual hiring rate, the extra cost for seat upgrades is negligible.

Or at least, that's the level of client they're seeking/expecting/used to when they make that kind of request. Doesn't hurt to ask to try to figure out some agreement, but I'd imagine they'd de-prioritize you for someone who would just buy the more expensive ticket if they happened to come along.

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31 minutes ago, DMonDude said:

I'm sure certain providers operate under the notion that if you already can afford to fly people to you from out of state on top of possibly covering their hotel, and their actual hiring rate, the extra cost for seat upgrades is negligible.

Or at least, that's the level of client they're seeking/expecting/used to when they make that kind of request. Doesn't hurt to ask to try to figure out some agreement, but I'd imagine they'd de-prioritize you for someone who would just buy the more expensive ticket if they happened to come along.

I agree I guess as a provider they may feel that way.. but merely asking shouldn’t give them that instinct and with that mindset of wanting business class flights only will alienate people who actually wanna meet ? 🤷‍♂️ I mean this guy is looking at a $1600 vs $350 flight lol. It cost less for me to travel to him at this point but just not as convenient with time off from work etc. I appreciate the response. 

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14 hours ago, TheJusticeLeague said:

Ahh that makes sensei guess. Didn’t see it in that perspective. Flight is about 5 hours lol and no I don’t expect work right after.. I mean I was hoping to get drinks and just mingle a little before the “fun stuff.” But the price is like a $1600 difference in business vs economy. It’s a 3 day trip I’m looking at. No problem paying for overnight of asking but the biz class seems little extra when I don’t travel biz myself. 

For the $1600+ that will be spent on effectively one guy and one session, I´d encourage you to consider spending that same money - flying to either Brazil or Barcelona and enjoying so much more high quality fun 😊

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Would have never occurred to me to ask for business class when flying to see a client.  Convenient flight times and nonstop flights are necessary, but not business class, for me.  As others have said if he's quite tall or it's a brief visit requiring a long haul flight so he'd need as much shutteye before getting to work as possible, then the request would make sense.  Personally, I don't sleep well on flights in any class, but that's me.  I read and also walk the Aisle(s) on long flights.

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4 hours ago, Rod Hagen said:

Would have never occurred to me to ask for business class when flying to see a client.  Convenient flight times and nonstop flights are necessary, but not business class, for me.  As others have said if he's quite tall or it's a brief visit requiring a long haul flight so he'd need as much shutteye before getting to work as possible, then the request would make sense.  Personally, I don't sleep well on flights in any class, but that's me.  I read and also walk the Aisle(s) on long flights.

The guy is 6’2 210 decent muscle so I guess it makes sense but I personally think there are many tall people on economy flights too. lol. It’s just a huge price difference and I don’t wanna sound cheap but Damnn man. Overnight is expensive but at least I get something hah. I don’t mind paying for the flight but not 5x the regular seats.. I offered an upgrade to comfort which is still $800 so will see what he says. Thanks for input. 

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In all the years I've been doing overnights and bringing providers to me... I have never ever gotten a travel demand about needing to be in business class or higher. At most the only requests I got were: time of day, whether to get direct flights vs lay overs, or window vs aisle seating. Hell, even guys who wanted to pick their own flights and be reimbursed for it, never chose business/first class.

So to answer your question(s)...
- No, most guys do not require business class.
- If he doesn't want to compromise, I say move on.
- it might make you seem cheap to this particular provider, but I don't think it makes you cheap for negotiating flights. I mean you are willing to pay his rates otherwise.

If you really want to see this guy and he must have business class, why don't you fly to him?

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I have not really flown guys that much.  I can think of three times and they were repeats where I was beyond impressed at our first meeting. One just gave me a rate and showed up 12 hours later in Key West—I have no idea nor really care the logistics. The other two I flew private charter—one to London, the other I was in Taos NM—both were my decision and suggestion primarily based on my time constraints. All three well worth it.  However I would never contemplate even paying economy for someone I had never met previously.

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Thanks guys. Update I decided to move on and spend my money elsewhere on someone. The reason why I am not flying to him is because my schedule with work and personal reasons it makes more sense for him to come to me. If he budge on the flight could save me $1200 I’d prob have no issue paying his rate of 6k at the end of day. Sucks that oil is surging thru the roof. Can’t remember flights being this expensive 

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2 hours ago, Jay17403 said:

I have not really flown guys that much.  I can think of three times and they were repeats where I was beyond impressed at our first meeting. One just gave me a rate and showed up 12 hours later in Key West—I have no idea nor really care the logistics. The other two I flew private charter—one to London, the other I was in Taos NM—both were my decision and suggestion primarily based on my time constraints. All three well worth it.  However I would never contemplate even paying economy for someone I had never met previously.

I’ve met him before and he was just so hot I wanted a second visit. I actually traveled to La solely to meet up with him but he FLAKED! Because he hasn’t checked his messages despite taking my deposit and claimed to have me on his calendar. Then I reached back out to see if I can get him to come to me In which he agreed but required business flight. At that point I said forget it. If I’m paying someone 8k almost I can find better guys elsewhere. 

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2 hours ago, TheJusticeLeague said:

Thanks guys. Update I decided to move on and spend my money elsewhere on someone. The reason why I am not flying to him is because my schedule with work and personal reasons it makes more sense for him to come to me. If he budge on the flight could save me $1200 I’d prob have no issue paying his rate of 6k at the end of day. Sucks that oil is surging thru the roof. Can’t remember flights being this expensive 

Him being willing to give up $6k because he wants to fly business or not at all shows he doesn't need you as a client. And I imagine you'll save yourself future headaches by ending the relationship with him. I won't even pay for Ubers - not because I'm cheap - but because in NYC it is almost always faster to take the train. And Uber prices are unpredictable. If a guy wants to add a travel fee, I'm fine with that. 

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