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Party and Play is listed as a “preference” by some providers (less than a third in my area). This came up in another thread and I began to realize that I hadn’t given it enough thought and maybe it deserves its own thread. Does it mean that the provider is tolerant of recreational drug use by his clients or actively encourages and participates? What drugs does it usually entail besides poppers, marijuana, methamphetamine, GBH and cocaine? If PNP is included as a preference in an ad, is it an automatic deal killer for you or do you rely on reviews to make that call? I haven’t yet encountered an obviously impaired provider but I may not have been paying enough attention. I recognize that not many PNP seekers are likely to chime in here but would appreciate reading the perspectives of those that know more than I do. I’m assuming that we’re all familiar with the associated risks of PNP; I’m interested in how you approach the issue. 

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1 hour ago, jmichaeliii said:

I am not into PNP but in the past I have not eliminated a provider if it was listed, but after seeing this I am now.  

I was the same way - what you do on your own time is your business.

My change came in 2025 after specific experiences with two highly rated providers in New Orleans.   

I hope they get what they need.  But I’m able to regularly observe at least one one of them on hook up apps with his “face down/ass up cum dump” posts to know meth is probably leaving him voraciously horny   

Meth is the gift that keeps on giving and triggers provider behaviors that interject risk into our interaction.   There’s plenty of awesome SOBER guys out there to not have to take that risk.

I wonder - how many of you actually look at evidence of STD testing before you hire someone?  Because, there is a strong, well-documented correlation between meth use and a 50% increased risk of HIV. So, we can say what you do on your time is your business….until you track mud on to my rug. 

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I equate PNP with drug use like meth or G.  I've never associated the term with marijuana or alcohol use.  I also associate its inclusion in an ad as an indication that the provider partakes, not just that he's open to clients who do, unless his ad has text that clearly spells that out.

A major reason for me to avoid providers who list PNP in their ads: People who use substances regularly are frequently less reliable in terms of keeping appointments.

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54 minutes ago, maninsoma said:

I equate PNP with drug use like meth or G.  I've never associated the term with marijuana or alcohol use.  I also associate its inclusion in an ad as an indication that the provider partakes, not just that he's open to clients who do, unless his ad has text that clearly spells that out.

A major reason for me to avoid providers who list PNP in their ads: People who use substances regularly are frequently less reliable in terms of keeping appointments.

Just want to second what you have written here...

My most consistent experience with provider who like to PNP is that they are susceptible to wild mood swings - one guy last week in Montreal went from a zero to 100 in terms of disposition when i declined to give him my building code prior to his arrival.

Going to be more careful going forward but glad i dodged a bullet on this one

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Question - does PNP have to work both ways?

I had an....unpleasant encounter with an escort who (without telling me ahead of time) took two doses of G (the second dose came after he got me off).

He then tried to force himself on me (I don't do anal with providers and had made that extremely clear to him). He wanted to party; I didn't but he still managed to get his tip into me before I kicked him away.

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To me PNP means no hard drugs, MJ is fine. I recently had an experience with a provider who I explicitly told this when I saw it on his profile and he said not to worry and that we don’t have to do anything.

When he got to my place, he clearly was already on something, proceeded to snort something and then take some G. I told him again I didn’t want anything like that and he said it was there to help him stay awake. I called the meeting off and he proceeded to FREAK out.

It was a very unpleasant experience. Which told him to leave he blocked me etc. But made it seem like he was gonna do something to me on his way out (I’m fine, just a bit rattled). 

I think it’s the worst I’ve experience I’ve had thus far hiring providers. 

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