studchaser Posted February 22 Author Posted February 22 4 hours ago, Monarchy79 said: To each his own, but I just don’t see the appeal with straight men. I’ve been around them (more than I’d like to), and all I can think of is terrible hygiene, disheveled homes, and dumb conversations ( usually focused on sports & pussy). The ones who have surpassed the trapping of living the life of an adult crusty teenage boy, are the ones who found wives to rear them and keep them in order. And their wives complain about them too. So if you are an escort and want to appeal to gay men who seek the attention of a straight man…. Become straight…. 😎 Skip a few showers & shaves, purchase a video gaming console and put it in your sparsely furnished living room, get some flannel shirts and non-descript jeans from the thrift store, throw away the fancy briefs and get some Hanes old-school boxers, and post up… You’ll making a killing for less work… people will pay you top dollar just for you to sit back while they suck your 🍆 Easy money. Now imagine the stereotypes of gay men. Perfect houses like Martha Stewart ,conversations about fashion and celebrity cultures,obsessed with Madonna,Beyonce,Lady Gaga, high pitched lipsping voices,afflicted with certain illnesses etc . Obviously not true but you want to be careful because stereotypes(especially negative ones) go both ways . marylander1940 and pubic_assistance 1 1
Jiminy Posted February 22 Posted February 22 I don't know if it's already mentioned, but I think it's more about wanting something you can't have, and the prospect of having it. Danny-Darko, pubic_assistance, + Vegas_Millennial and 1 other 1 1 1 1
Archangel Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Aside… It always amazes me which topics take off to multiple pages and which ones get no traction. To me, this topic at this stage can be summed up with the gif below: marylander1940, + Vegas_Millennial and pubic_assistance 2 1
Danny-Darko Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jiminy said: I don't know if it's already mentioned, but I think it's more about wanting something you can't have, and the prospect of having it. It's one thing to "want" something, and another to hire, seek out and actually get what one wants on occasion! Some more often that others! 😉 Shout out to all of those that like to travel to Brazil for the "Garotos" who mostly identify as "straight"! (Chongos in Argentina, Jineteros and Bugarrones in Cuba, DR & PR, Mayates and Chichifos in Mexico, and so on). I've yet to meet a flaming queen or very out gay guy among them. And I doubt gay men go there for the "Bonecas" (transvestites & transexuals). Just some food for thought. Argue amongst yourselves, but I have nothing more to add to the subject. The original question/comment has been more than answered, while others just want to convince us why we are "wrong" and "self-loathing" and that they are absolutely right. 🤔 Edited February 23 by Danny-Darko pubic_assistance 1
Monarchy79 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 4 hours ago, studchaser said: Now imagine the stereotypes of gay men. Perfect houses like Martha Stewart ,conversations about fashion and celebrity cultures,obsessed with Madonna,Beyonce,Lady Gaga, high pitched lipsping voices,afflicted with certain illnesses etc . Obviously not true but you want to be careful because stereotypes(especially negative ones) go both ways . I understand clearly the stereotypes of gay guys, particularly perpetuated by straight men, and they go beyond the trivial things you mentioned. Let’s get into the heavy stereotypes straight men have about gay guys (and the hypocrisy of it all): 1.) “Gay men are extremely promiscuous, and will have sex any and everywhere”. Straight men love saying this, especially as they think they have “proof” of this, as the one major circumstance they are in proximity to gay men where they can make this assumption is the gym sauna and steam room. The moment they catch some gay slut having sex in the sauna, they gasp at it with such shame, knowing good and well their true feeling is envy. If women were allowed to be as sexually liberated as men are (without that shame), they’d all be fucking in saunas and other public places too. 2.) “Gay men spread STDs and are the reason why AIDS has impacted women.” The truth is that more women have died from cervical and uterine cancers, stemming from the dirty dicks of their straight male counterparts, via HPV… and many women suffer from multiple auto-immune diseases and suffer from interfility due to the many STDs their straight partners give them. If you know any gynecologist, they will tell you that lesbian women have the best gynecological health, because their sexual activities involves no men. 3.) “Gay men are sexual deviants”. Well the truth is that on a global perspective, straight men have plagued society with human sex trafficking, the sexual exploitation of children and the sexual abuse of women. Look at any state’s sexual offender list, and 90 percent of the men are straight. further, even your most deviant gay slut is picky and has “standards”. Go to your local truck stop or hoe stroll; the nastiest of female lot lizards and crack whores are making steady cash from straight men. There’s even a documentary in a county in Central America where they have to take great measures to protect the donkeys, because straight men are raping them. So no….. I don’t give any consideration or deference to straight men. They’ve ridiculed the reputations of gay men with ridiculous stereotypes for generations, all the while, they are far worse. pubic_assistance and + bkwiseass 1 1
Monarchy79 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 5 hours ago, SirBillybob said: Funny you should say this because the chaps that I hire that turn out to be straight have extremely diligent genital and anal hygiene, holes fresh enough for sit-ins. That’s also my face’s opinion when standing in as assstool where stool undetectable. No wipes or cootie-cull scissors required. My latest gay hire left skid marks, apologetically mind you, all over the single set of Airbnb sheets, linens that were to last the stay duration. A professional escort who is telling you that he’s “straight”, and is paid to participate in homosexual activities is far different than the collective paradigm of straight men. pubic_assistance 1
SirBillybob Posted February 23 Posted February 23 11 hours ago, Monarchy79 said: A professional escort who is telling you that he’s “straight”, and is paid to participate in homosexual activities is far different than the collective paradigm of straight men. And the topic is … providers. pubic_assistance and Danny-Darko 1 1
EZEtoGRU Posted February 23 Posted February 23 This topic of some gay men seeking straight male escorts comes up from time to time here. It always ends the same way with a group of flag-waving gays insisting that the guys who partake in this hobby must be self-loathing sad homosexuals to be hunting down straight guys for hire. The mindset that if you are gay you must be attracted to gay guys or something is wrong with you. Folks are way too over-analytical and stay-in-your-lane-ish. I'm attracted to authentic masculinity...I always have been. That frequently (but not exclusively) leads me down the path to being attracted to straight guys. I have no choice in the matter as this is how I'm wired. I have zero interest in fem gay men no matter how handsome they may be. And no, I am not saying all gay men are fem. Currently, I find the best setting for finding what I like is in male strip clubs. There is no way to judge masculinity when looking through escort options on Rentmen so that vehicle really doesn't work for me. The stripclub format provides the ability to see the product and kick the tires so to speak. I'll know within one minute if the guy meets my masculinity threshold. The other setting that works well are the rentboy saunas in Brazil and elsewhere. Same concept because you're seeing the prospect up close and personal. No amount of flipping through profiles on Rentmen can match an in-person conversation with a potential hire. So....no....I don't hate myself and no....I don't hate being gay (on the contrary, I can't imagine not being gay). It is what it is. Kinda like some people like chocolate and some people like vanilla. Live and let live people. pubic_assistance, Danny-Darko, mike carey and 4 others 3 1 3
Peter Eater Posted February 23 Posted February 23 The assumed binary of “straight” and “gay” is so yesterday. MikeBiDude and pubic_assistance 1 1
pubic_assistance Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) 19 hours ago, studchaser said: Men into trans are rarely struggling with anything internally. I would have to disagree with you there. Maybe we have different understandings of the word: "struggle". What I mean..and what is generally understood about men who are into cross dressers is that they typically are bisexual but struggle with the idea of identifying as even partially homosexual, so going with cross dressers gives them a "cover" if caught picking up a dude...."NAH ! I thought I was picking up a chick!...I was so shocked to find out it was a dude" !! Their habits may well be established and consciously aware of the game....but their subconscious convinces them they are safe from judgement if caught, when the guy is wearing a skirt and heels. Edited February 23 by pubic_assistance grammar + BenjaminNicholas, Danny-Darko and Monarchy79 1 1 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted February 23 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Peter Eater said: The assumed binary of “straight” and “gay” is so yesterday. I used to identify solely as bisexual, because I will sleep with both gay men and straight men. But now I have come to accept that I'm trans, willing to sleep with men in their transition from straight to gay and vice versa. Km411, Monarchy79, + ApexNomad and 7 others 1 9
studchaser Posted February 25 Author Posted February 25 On 2/22/2025 at 9:27 PM, Monarchy79 said: A professional escort who is telling you that he’s “straight”, and is paid to participate in homosexual activities is far different than the collective paradigm of straight men. Thats why you get "trade".
ShortCutie7 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 I wouldn’t hire a provider who selects/identifies as straight, purely because it would completely kill the illusion of attraction and chemistry. That said, most of my top-tier hookups (both with providers and not) have been with guys who select/identify as bi, though that does not make me more or less likely to engage… I have just found that the chemistry (eg THEM liking ME) has been better with the bi guys. + DrownedBoy and + ApexNomad 2
pubic_assistance Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) 10 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said: I wouldn’t hire a provider who selects/identifies as straight, purely because it would completely kill the illusion of attraction and chemistry. That speaks to the various motivations of hiring. Some people crave the fantasy of desire...with the potential for actual chemistry. Others just want sex and really don't care if the provider finds him attractive as long as he gets off. Some gay men who hire straight providers want to get the straight guy off so he will be your friend and stop calling you names. Me personally ...I was a bit of a jock in High School and College and admired the physical beauty of other athletes. But I was under the (weird) impression that I was the only jock on the planet that wanted to hook up with other jocks. Now that I realize how completely clueless I was ..I regret the missed opportunities (that years later a classmate told me he himself had going on). So I enjoy hiring "straight" presenting guys as a way for making up for lost time. I knew nothing about bisexuality and that very straight appearing, athletic men do hook up with men. So now I seek that out. Edited February 25 by pubic_assistance spelling ShortCutie7, MikeBiDude, borgerback and 2 others 4 1
studchaser Posted February 26 Author Posted February 26 On 2/20/2025 at 4:38 PM, GTMike said: Would love to hear/see who are yours or some that you know of! Mike you know about all those football players and frat boys i lured but shhhh
+ bkwiseass Posted March 16 Posted March 16 On 2/21/2025 at 8:26 AM, ApexNomad said: There’s a lot to unpack here, but the core issue seems to be the idea that being attracted to “straight” men is somehow more natural or universal among gay men than being attracted to other gay men. That’s simply not true. Yes, many gay men have had crushes on unattainable straight guys growing up, but that’s often because we lacked representation and safe spaces to explore our desires. That doesn’t mean all of us fetishize straightness into adulthood or see it as an ideal. The real issue with “straight guy” fetishization isn’t about individual preference—people are attracted to different things, and that’s perfectly fine—but about the way it can reinforce internalized homophobia. Elevating straightness as the ultimate form of masculinity suggests that being openly gay makes someone less desirable, which is a toxic mindset rooted in shame. It also plays into a broader cultural problem where queer men are often expected to diminish or hide parts of themselves to be seen as attractive. As for the escort argument, marketing is about selling a fantasy, and “straight” sells because of lingering stigmas about gayness, not because it’s some universal truth about attraction. The idea that most gay men prefer “straight” men is a broad generalization that erases the many men who love and desire other gay men without apology. At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their preferences, but it’s worth asking—do those preferences come from an authentic place, or are they shaped by cultural bias and internalized messaging? thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. did i forget to say thank you? + ApexNomad 1
+ bkwiseass Posted March 16 Posted March 16 On 2/21/2025 at 2:51 PM, jeezifonly said: Advertisers are permitted to self-identify as pretty much anything. The right man, presenting as hetero “looking for his first gay adventure” is bound to generate interest on that alone. “I only top, I won’t let you anywhere near my ass and no kissing” Once the session is over though, is there really a difference between how clients might feel having been with a “straight guy” and how they might feel having been with a gay man who’s just sorta lazy and disinterested? i think this is a great question
d.anders Posted March 16 Posted March 16 (edited) "Straight" providers are almost always going to be lazy lovers when working with a gay customer. They are also more selfish. They mostly want to be serviced, or a gaping hole, and they want control. If you're looking for a sensitive, masculine, romantic lover type, willing to explore and invest sexual energy with you, straight is not the answer. If kissing is your thing, a straight guy is a disaster. I have never been with a straight guy who was able to passionately kiss another man. Straight guys in sex work aren't usually famous for their acting skills. I've never met a straight guy who can suck cock like it was his last meal. If you want a BJ that will send you to the moon and back in first-class, hire a gay professional. Edited March 16 by d.anders + bkwiseass, liubit and + DrownedBoy 1 2
+ bkwiseass Posted March 16 Posted March 16 1 hour ago, d.anders said: "Straight" providers are almost always going to be lazy lovers when working with a gay customer. They are also more selfish. They mostly want to be serviced, or a gaping hole, and they want control. If you're looking for a sensitive, masculine, romantic lover type, willing to explore and invest sexual energy with you, straight is not the answer. If kissing is your thing, a straight guy is a disaster. I have never been with a straight guy who was able to passionately kiss another man. Straight guys in sex work aren't usually famous for their acting skills. that, sadly, tracks with my experience. i know chemistry is super-elusive —straight, gay or bi — and i'm grateful there are dudes who offers themselves professionally, and it's probably the most difficult thing to expect of a provider, but without some level of engagement, what's the point?
+ bkwiseass Posted March 16 Posted March 16 did i forget to say how much i love this thread, and all the meaningful and thoughful comments on it? + Lucky and studchaser 2
Archangel Posted March 16 Posted March 16 16 minutes ago, bkwiseass said: without some level of engagement, what's the point? Milking the thirsty client for money.
d.anders Posted March 16 Posted March 16 6 minutes ago, bkwiseass said: but without some level of engagement, what's the point? Well, a good fantasy doesn't always require engagement, at least not mutual engagement. I once met a married straight guy who was using the gym at a bath house in the southern Midwest. He was tall and slender, with dark hair and a beautiful cock and balls. He was only looking for a good blow job, and he was charming in the way he quietly expressed his honesty with me. I said I could help him if he wanted to join me in my room. He asked if I minded if he watched straight porn on his phone. I had first met him in the shower, so I knew he was clean. Once in my room, he was totally open to me licking anything and anywhere, and I did, but no kissing and no reciprocation. For me, it was pure heaven. Danny-Darko 1
Archangel Posted March 16 Posted March 16 (edited) 25 minutes ago, d.anders said: Well, a good fantasy doesn't always require engagement, at least not mutual engagement. I once met a married straight guy who was using the gym at a bath house in the southern Midwest. He was tall and slender, with dark hair and a beautiful cock and balls. He was only looking for a good blow job, and he was charming in the way he quietly expressed his honesty with me. I said I could help him if he wanted to join me in my room. He asked if I minded if he watched straight porn on his phone. I had first met him in the shower, so I knew he was clean. Once in my room, he was totally open to me licking anything and anywhere, and I did, but no kissing and no reciprocation. For me, it was pure heaven. I read things like this and wonder what’s wrong with me. This kind of thing never happens for me. It’s the stuff of porn and erotica, for me, anyhow. My life is so boring compared to yours and others’ here! Edited March 16 by Archangel Add missing word(s) Mo Mason 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted March 16 Posted March 16 This ol' chestnut, again? Must be spring. And now, let's pray we see yet another 'what's the going rate for XXX' topic. Bated breath. marylander1940 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted March 16 Posted March 16 1 hour ago, BenjaminNicholas said: This ol' chestnut, again? Must be spring. And now, let's pray we see yet another 'what's the going rate for XXX' topic. Bated breath. How much tip should I leave a straight provider who doesn't meet my expectations? Or has this been asked before? (Rhetorical, please no one answer. Please see the dozens of other threads asked every year on these same subjects) + BenjaminNicholas and marylander1940 2
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