jayjaycali Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Not doubting the article but also "older generation disappointed with younger generation" is kind of a pattern too... + Pensant, Andy768, Archangel and 1 other 2 2
Guest Posted January 30 Posted January 30 23 minutes ago, jayjaycali said: Not doubting the article but also "older generation disappointed with younger generation" is kind of a pattern too... that is very true. i remember the first time I came across this quote by Socrates and realized... oh... this is just par for the course.
Monarchy79 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Gen Z’ers aren’t victims. They’re entitled brats. The arrogance, the inflated sense of self, and the delusions of what they believe they deserve is what cracks me up about them. Archangel, soloyo215 and samhexum 1 1 1
Monarchy79 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) On 1/28/2025 at 4:59 PM, BenjaminNicholas said: I have little compassion for them. It's not all that difficult to get out in the real world and understand how it truly functions. From there, you adjust your expectations accordingly. You don't just expect the world to cater to you. That's sociopathic. Gen Z is so fucking delicate. The generation of needing trigger warnings and participation trophies. …… and menus & food descriptions for all of their new age allergies….. Gen-Zers won’t drink a bottle of water before confirming it’s “Gluten Free”. Edited January 30 by Monarchy79 pubic_assistance, samhexum, Archangel and 2 others 1 1 3
+ Pensant Posted January 30 Posted January 30 I guess it depends where you live. The ones I encounter work hard and are sociable. They often make my day. That said, I’m aware that the majority are not that way. CuriousByNature and MikeBiDude 2
+ Charlie Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Funny thing: I remember my parents' generation making the same kind of complaints ("They think they can learn everything important just by watching television!") about my generation--sixty years ago. + DrownedBoy, + cougar, + Pensant and 3 others 4 2
Guest Posted January 31 Posted January 31 When it comes to employees, it's easy to focus on the bad ones and lose track of the good ones. Also, there seems to be problems with every generation of workers. For instance, it seemed like Generation X and Boomer workers had more issues with discrimination, harassment, and bullying than the newer generations, although I wouldn't be surprised if that changes. With the younger generations, I did notice there are more good female workers than male workers. Females seem to understand the importance of rising to the top whereas males are stuck in the present. Personally, I'm not having issues with Generation Z providers. They've been surprisingly good so far...knock on wood.
jayjaycali Posted January 31 Posted January 31 I do feel there's a greater interest in the gig economy vs the 9 to 5. More flexibility and the ability to prioritize not working all the time. + Pensant 1
Ali Gator Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Lucky for me in my department, we don't have to fire Zoomers (in the past year I have been at this new job). The zoomers just don't show up after a few weeks - so we take it they've quit. Of course, they then file for unemployment (saying they got 'laid off') so they can stay home and be a social media influencer while they collect the next six months, but my boss is not an idiot - when the paperwork comes in from UE, she let's them know they 'walked off the job' and they were not laid off. Before I made this switch to working in the health industry last year, I worked in university library for nine years (I had to leave - it was driving me crazy to have to 'pamper and coddle' these young adults). I can't tell you the number of student workers who we hired for the library who never worked a day in their life (never held a summer job in their high school years) and couldn't work a full schedule each week (we're talking 10 hours a week, max). They always had a reason to 'call out' on at least one of their shifts. Anyhow, once they became seniors and started looking for 'real jobs', many made it clear to me they wouldn't be taking a job which paid less than 'six figures a year'. One sexy / cute guy said, "It's not worth getting out of bed in the morning if I won't be making six figures a year." WTF? He also wasn't looking for room-mates, he wanted to live in an apartment (his first, out of the dorm) alone. This was when he graduated with a degree in 'financing' in 2021. He thought he was going to land on Wall Street for a job. I laughed to myself. I ran into him at Christmastime. Cute and sexy as ever, even more so as he's hit his mid-20s. Anyhow, I asked how everything is going and how his 'six figure job' was working out. He was a little disappointed - told me he's still living at home with his mother, and the only job he found was working at the call center for AAA, at $17/ hr. $34K a year doesn't get you too far in 2025 as it did fifty years ago. (With his looks and his incredible body he would make a great living as an escort, but I know he's not into that at all.) Lotus-eater, + Pensant, + DrownedBoy and 4 others 6 1
+ Pensant Posted February 1 Posted February 1 8 hours ago, Ali Gator said: With his looks and his incredible body he would make a great living as an escort, but I know he's not into that at all.) He should try OF. Ali Gator 1
Ali Gator Posted February 1 Posted February 1 2 hours ago, Pensant said: He should try OF. He really, really should. A lot of the young guys I worked with over the years should be doing OF - but as been discussed before, this GEN Z are not really sexually 'open' that way. Hell, they won't even strip down in a locker room or be caught outside without a shirt on. Beautiful, hard, sexy bodies they don't want to share with the universe. Go figure. samhexum 1
+ DrownedBoy Posted February 1 Posted February 1 35 minutes ago, Ali Gator said: He really, really should. A lot of the young guys I worked with over the years should be doing OF - but as been discussed before, this GEN Z are not really sexually 'open' that way. Hell, they won't even strip down in a locker room or be caught outside without a shirt on. Beautiful, hard, sexy bodies they don't want to share with the universe. Go figure. I've never been a fan of OF. I'm afraid I need providers to be "in the office" to enjoy their company MikeBiDude, + azdr0710, + Vegas_Millennial and 1 other 2 2
CuriousByNature Posted February 1 Posted February 1 2 hours ago, Pensant said: He should try OF. Isn't OF just one more way to be a social media influencer?
56harrisond Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Gen Z are so incapable of cooking they cannot even make an omelette - branding the one-ingredient dish 'too stressful' Nearly two thirds of Gen Z adults admit they lack basic cooking skills - with around 61 per cent of those surveyed saying they do not know how to cook an omelette. A study by dating app FindingTheOne has revealed that young adults aged between 18 and 28 prefer eating at a restaurant or takeaway because they do not know how to cook. The poll surveyed 1,500 participants across different age groups and showed a growing number of young people who are useless in the kitchen. Nearly 64 per cent of Gen Z respondents said they prefer dining out because they 'can't cook'. Just under half described the act of cooking as 'stressful' and said the anxiety about cooking is what often caused the reliance on takeaways and restaurant meals. Even simple meals seemed to be a struggle for many, 42 per cent said they could not cook a stir-fry and 27 per cent said they struggled to make soup. Shockingly even omelettes, which at their most basic feature just one ingredient proved a problem for 61 per cent of Gen Z adults in the survey. Gen Z are so incapable of cooking they cannot even make an omelette - branding the one-ingredient dish 'too stressful' | Daily Mail Online WWW.DAILYMAIL.CO.UK A survey has found more than 50 per cent of Gen Z adults can't cook and will instead order takeaways and deliveries, finding...
Archangel Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 1/28/2025 at 1:57 PM, CuriousByNature said: entitled, socially anxious, and individualistic creatures Strange. That’s how I perceive many between 55-70. The children of the WWII generation were handed a fantastic rebuilt world and they come along and are handing off a world where social scientists say their kids can expect to do worse off than them. It is also hard to be motivated when septigenerians and octogenarians are holding positions that should have long opened up for younger people to fill. There is little-to-nothing a young person today can do to move upward in a professional world like there used to be because the retirement-age generation refuses to retire. Why bother if you’re set up to fail from the outset? Be positive? Positive that the deck is stacked against you. Easy for Richard Branson to say… Gen Z might have its issues but all the rest do too – and it wasn’t just to make Gen Z entitled, socially anxious, and individualistic. I used to be young and poor. Now after years of hard work, I’m no longer young. In case you haven’t noticed, I despise this kind of pseudo-scientific social classification based off the Strauss-Howe Generation Theory. + DrownedBoy, + Charlie, + Pensant and 1 other 2 1 1
Archangel Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 1/29/2025 at 7:52 PM, jayjaycali said: Not doubting the article but also "older generation disappointed with younger generation" is kind of a pattern too... Some things never change. Older generations discount younger generations as incapable and look down at them with dismissive patronizing disdain all the time. + Charlie and + azdr0710 2
mike carey Posted February 3 Posted February 3 I heard an ABC podcast, I think called 'This Working Life' (I heard it on broadcast radio) where this generation was discussed. On the topic of older people's complaints that they expect an award for everything, the speaker responded, 'Well which generation was it that gave them all those awards so that now they expect them?' A very good question, I thought! + Pensant, samhexum and + Charlie 3
Archangel Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Regarding cooking an omelette… I have a friend whose husband called her from FL because he couldn’t figure out how to work the washing machine at their home in Ft. Lauderdale. She told him the directions were on the lid. Yet he still needed her to walk him through making load of laundry. When she had knee replacement surgery and he brought her home from the hospital, he offered to make her dinner. What did she want? A can of tomato soup. After a while, she realized he didn’t know how to do it. She didn’t get the soup. He meant well, but just couldn’t figure it out. She does say he makes himself “tuna salad” by opening a package of tuna and mixing it together with mayo…but he can’t cook an egg. Both of them are 75. Ineptitude isn’t singular to a certain generation. I honestly doubt my father would have the foggiest how to make an omelette… liubit, + Pensant, + Charlie and 2 others 5
Archangel Posted February 3 Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, mike carey said: I heard an ABC podcast, I think called 'This Working Life' (I heard it on broadcast radio) where this generation was discussed. On the topic of older people's complaints that they expect an award for everything, the speaker responded, 'Well which generation was it that gave them all those awards so that now they expect them?' A very good question, I thought! I have a woman in her 70s who works for me who is always phishing for praise. If you don’t constantly reassure her she’s done an outstanding job, she will float the word “resign.” She knows her position is hard to fill, so she is the squeaky wheel but damn – talk about insecure! And God forbid she’d acknowledge someone else works hard. + Pensant, mike carey, + Charlie and 1 other 2 1 1
CuriousByNature Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Archangel said: Strange. That’s how I perceive many between 55-70. The children of the WWII generation were handed a fantastic rebuilt world and they come along and are handing off a world where social scientists say their kids can expect to do worse off than them. It is also hard to be motivated when septigenerians and octogenarians are holding positions that should have long opened up for younger people to fill. There is little-to-nothing a young person today can do to move upward in a professional world like there used to be because the retirement-age generation refuses to retire. Why bother if you’re set up to fail from the outset? Be positive? Positive that the deck is stacked against you. Easy for Richard Branson to say… Gen Z might have its issues but all the rest do too – and it wasn’t just to make Gen Z entitled, socially anxious, and individualistic. I used to be young and poor. Now after years of hard work, I’m no longer young. In case you haven’t noticed, I despise this kind of pseudo-scientific social classification based off the Strauss-Howe Generation Theory. I agree that some things are more challenging today than they might have been in the past. Much of it can probably be linked to the pervasive use of social media to measure one's worth and value. One big issue that GenZ has to struggle with is that they will generally need to pay a larger portion of their income for basics like housing, compared to past generations. Though part of the problem is that many young people are not wanting to start out low on the property ladder - a lot of young people think they should be able to enter on a higher rung just because a young celebrity lives in a $10m house. Or they expect to live in the most desirable and least affordable parts of their city from the get-go. Older generations know how to make sacrifices and patiently work for a goal without any guarantee that it will be achieved. I rarely see people in their 70s and 80s trying to hang on to their job - in fact, most of the people I know are trying to retire by 55. GenZ people have good qualities like every generation, but their propensity to give up easily when confronted by challenges (because they are used to being labeled 'winners' for simply showing up in life) makes it hard for them to use the positive qualities they have in a meaningful and lasting way. It's not that they are inherently different than previous generations, it's that many were raised with kid gloves and with unrealistic expectations of life outside their comfort bubble. Edited February 3 by CuriousByNature samhexum, + m_writer, liubit and 2 others 5
cany10011 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 9 hours ago, Archangel said: Regarding cooking an omelette… I have a friend whose husband called her from FL because he couldn’t figure out how to work the washing machine at their home in Ft. Lauderdale. She told him the directions were on the lid. Yet he still needed her to walk him through making load of laundry. When she had knee replacement surgery and he brought her home from the hospital, he offered to make her dinner. What did she want? A can of tomato soup. After a while, she realized he didn’t know how to do it. She didn’t get the soup. He meant well, but just couldn’t figure it out. She does say he makes himself “tuna salad” by opening a package of tuna and mixing it together with mayo…but he can’t cook an egg. Both of them are 75. Ineptitude isn’t singular to a certain generation. I honestly doubt my father would have the foggiest how to make an omelette… My sister in law does not even know how to use a can opener, nor does she do laundry. + Charlie 1
marylander1940 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 9 hours ago, Archangel said: I have a woman in her 70s who works for me who is always phishing for praise. If you don’t constantly reassure her she’s done an outstanding job, she will float the word “resign.” She knows her position is hard to fill, so she is the squeaky wheel but damn – talk about insecure! And God forbid she’d acknowledge someone else works hard. samhexum 1
marylander1940 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 41 minutes ago, cany10011 said: My sister in law does not even know how to use a can opener, nor does she do laundry. What about your brother? 10 hours ago, Archangel said: Some things never change. Older generations discount younger generations as incapable and look down at them with dismissive patronizing disdain all the time. no doubt! Never before a younger generation had so much influence in the lives of the entire society because the creation of new technologies, apps, disruptive industries (Airbnb, Uber), etc. For the record I agree that some of the criticism expressed in this thread about Gen Z, and by extension Millennials is accurate. + Charlie and + augustus 1 1
Rudynate Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Do young people ever have after-school jobs? When I was in high school, lots of us had after-school jobs. The girls did filing or answered phones in offices and the boys pumped gas or worked in restaurants. I know I loved my job - and I made enough money to buy my own clothes and just generally do whatever I felt like doing. It gave me a great sense of independence - my attitude toward my parents was "Don't you dare try to tell me what to do - I'm getting out of the house and earning my own money." + Pensant and pubic_assistance 1 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Rudynate said: When I was in high school, lots of us had after-school jobs. The girls did filing or answered phones in offices and the boys pumped gas or worked in restaurants. Most filing jobs are gone, as data is stored directly in the computer as its created. As for answering phones, many companies don't even list a telephone number, expecting customers to do business via a website or download an application. For boys, there are no full service gas stations left that I am aware of, and part-time every-level jobs in restaurants have been taken over by kiosks. These jobs used to be a great way for young people with little experience to work part time to earn some money and gain experience. But as demands for "liveable" wages for entry-level part-time jobs came to fruition, so did the replacement of these jobs with automation. Just another example of how well-intentioned older generations harmed the next generation by trying to make things easier for them. Edited February 3 by Vegas_Millennial + m_writer, + Charlie, + Pensant and 1 other 3 1
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