DWnyc Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 On 3/15/2024 at 3:50 PM, Boaxxx said: The topic is "Thoughts on Deposits" which can be translated to "Opinions on Deposits". Can we just let folks state their preference and move on? Why does everything need to turn into a toxic back and forth. I've never been asked for a deposit nor do I think I would pay a deposit unless I was really certain that the meeting was going to take place. Just my answer/opinion to the question and I'm not going to argue with anyone if you feel that I am wrong. Now have a blessed day 💗 It’s just good practice for Thanksgiving pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_lucas Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 On 3/22/2024 at 4:16 AM, APPLE1 said: @Jay_lucasTake at least some mollification from the 'above 30' line. Reading that was the motivator for me to look at your profile and see if you were close! And I am sure I am not the only one who took more interest after reading that. I appreciate it Rentmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike carey Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 55 minutes ago, Jay_lucas said: I appreciate it Rentmen I agree with the comment you quoted, and I'm sure others have taken more notice after the 30s comment! Jay_lucas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_lucas Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 5 hours ago, mike carey said: I agree with the comment you quoted, and I'm sure others have taken more notice after the 30s comment! I’m confused Which comment, babe?, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 On 3/20/2024 at 8:13 AM, nycman said: Gentlemen, take note. This is how a man responds to someone who’s being a cun-t Yeah, he handled it better than I would have. Then again, I have very little to lose and enjoy telling trolls to go fuck themselves + nycman, thomas, Jarrod_Uncut and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike carey Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 5 hours ago, Jay_lucas said: I’m confused Which comment, babe?, The one from APPLE1 that you quoted in your post above mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 3/13/2024 at 3:48 PM, marylander1940 said: Why just gay men? Are you implying bi men and straight men are less flaky? When a straight man gets the opportunity to get some pussy, he’s not going to flake. And if he does, it’s because he has the option of better pussy to get. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ APPLE1 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Monarchy79 said: And if he does, it’s because he has the option of better pussy to get. I feel like flaking for something better, is directly linked to ALL XY chromosomes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 10 hours ago, Monarchy79 said: When a straight man gets the opportunity to get some pussy, he’s not going to flake. And if he does, it’s because he has the option of better pussy to get. "Sex and the city" used to be a parody, now it's a reality. Pussy is not worth what it used to. + BenjaminNicholas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, marylander1940 said: "Sex and the city" used to be a parody, now it's a reality. Pussy is not worth what it used to. I should clarify that I’m referring to “free pussy”. it’s value is in the fact that a man will get access to stick his dick in it. marylander1940 and + DrownedBoy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_lucas Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 On 3/22/2024 at 4:16 AM, APPLE1 said: @Jay_lucasTake at least some mollification from the 'above 30' line. Reading that was the motivator for me to look at your profile and see if you were close! And I am sure I am not the only one who took more interest after reading that. Thank you, babe . Yeah I don’t pay attention to people who are rude. They will have their opinions. I know my worth pubic_assistance and thomas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_lucas Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 On 3/25/2024 at 9:39 AM, mike carey said: I agree with the comment you quoted, and I'm sure others have taken more notice after the 30s comment! Thank you. I don’t give people the time or day if they’re rude. I appreciate the love. Rentmen.com mike carey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_lucas Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 On 3/14/2024 at 5:09 AM, Guest said: Welcome, @Jay_lucas! As a client I pay deposits for travel, typically only the cost of the flight because I prefer hosting. Otherwise, I’m never asked and I don’t pay them. I endeavor to be respectful of a provider and his time, but admit I’ve cancelled a few times. In those instances, I’ve been able to give several day’s notice, which hopefully mitigated the inconvenience. Sorry for the delay. I missed your message. I agree with that. Unfortunately I had an issue in 2021 where a client flew me out to TX for a three night weekend and never paid me anything. I do take responsibility for that, because it does go back to my question should I get ask for a deposit so I don’t get messed up financially. I’m fine with clients not giving me one if I know they are serious and not going to just waste our time. a lot of people forget it’s not just mine time , it’s OUR time together and I want both parties to be respectful of it. It sucks haha Jarrod_Uncut, thomas and pubic_assistance 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod_Uncut Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) On 3/22/2024 at 6:30 AM, DWnyc said: No - it just doesn’t constitute an appointment Well, regardless of whether it constitutes an appointment or not: at least now I don’t make any concessions, if a client hasn’t sent a deposit. Few Sunday’s ago, I had 3 potential clients reach out suggesting times they could do an appointment: non of them made it to my door. 2 reasons: #1 they were phony/unreliable, and #2 I didn’t spend any money booking a hotel to host them in the first place. Only thing is, the fact that they have to lie about wanting to book something in the first place, it’s petty and irritating. Some of these dudes out here, specifically a segment of middle aged White men: need to stop wasting sex worker’s time, faking like they want a booking. I don’t know if it’s because I’m in the Midwest, or America in general: but I don’t have time for it. I’ll continue asking for deposits until I’m retired because: People don’t take our time and effort seriously. Idk if it’s just the general economy: but I’m definitely finding fewer ethnic diverse clients, and it mainly seems to be flaky/unreliable White dudes reaching out. Not that I don’t like a particular ethnicity of clients (I met a couple superb ones last weekend when I was out of town), but only like 1 in 25 who contact, seem to be serious or willing to do the most elementary steps of booking a session lately. Like umm…reading the Ad and Auto Responder and following the directions listed. Almost the same odds as winning ANY PowerBall prize, not even talking the jackpot lol. Not good considering the cost of ads, and the cost to maintain an escort lifestyle. It’s not $2. By the time I go to GNC, get my haircut, all the things I need to look and feel good and presentable for every session: I don’t have time to be losing $300+ and then hearing, “I didn’t make an appointment.” Well then why contact me in the first place, if they weren’t serious about it? And sorry if being real rubs anyone wrong but: that’s just the truth of the matter. Few are bringing it up or even acknowledging it’s an issue so: I gotta do what I have to do in the meantime. On 3/28/2024 at 10:53 AM, Jay_lucas said: it does go back to my question should I get ask for a deposit so I don’t get messed up financially. I’m fine with clients not giving me one if I know they are serious and not going to just waste our time. That’s the thing: you’re never going to really know, unless they show up and you get the coin 🪙 I never know either. That’s why I have to do so. The only ones who get by without deposit, are the REGULAR regulars. Like, see them all time. Not just some guy who comes around once every 6 months out the blue. It’s definitely crazy out here though. I blame the damn apps. We need to all team up and sue them (figuratively) for commission and royalties, for how they created a culture of lack of dependability and desire to put in any effort for hooking up lol. Before then, I didn’t really need deposits as much. Edited March 30 by Jarrod_Uncut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56harrisond Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Jarrod_Uncut said: ...Some of these dudes out here, specifically a segment of middle aged White men: need to stop wasting sex worker’s time, faking like they want a booking. I don’t know if it’s because I’m in the Midwest, or America in general: but I don’t have time for it... Idk if it’s just the general economy: but I’m definitely finding fewer ethnic diverse clients, and it mainly seems to be flaky/unreliable White dudes reaching out... On the ethnic diversity point, yes it is a function of where you are. The Midwest USA is the least diverse area of the country. Mapped: The Most Diverse States in the U.S. WWW.VISUALCAPITALIST.COM In this graphic, we show the most diverse states in the U.S. based on the Census Bureau's Diversity Index. Jarrod_Uncut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maninsoma Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I'm sure there are time wasters out there who love contact escorts that they know they aren't going to hire, but I doubt there are that many game players. In other words, I think most men who contact escorts want to hire them, but just because they made contact doesn't mean that seals the deal. I would suggest that if an escort is being contacted by a lot of people who end up not booking that that escort should reflect on various aspects of his business practice to determine why prospective clients end up taking their business elsewhere. If an initial contact doesn't enhance the excitement about the prospective meeting or, worse yet, makes the prospective client leery about hiring the escort, then the escort isn't doing a good job of marketing himself. JamesB, Jay_lucas, MikeBiDude and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 54 minutes ago, maninsoma said: If an initial contact doesn't enhance the excitement about the prospective meeting or, worse yet, makes the prospective client leery about hiring the escort, then the escort isn't doing a good job of marketing himself. If the attitude shown on this forum is any indication of how some escorts market themselves, it’s easy to see why clients decide not to hire after initial contact. peter831, DWnyc, JamesB and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_lucas Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 34 minutes ago, Trick said: If the attitude shown on this forum is any indication of how some escorts market themselves, it’s easy to see why clients decide not to hire after initial contact. I think I market myself pretty well. There’s always gonna be flakes no matter what . NJF, Jarrod_Uncut and Simon Suraci 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 4 hours ago, Trick said: If the attitude shown on this forum is any indication of how some escorts market themselves, it’s easy to see why clients decide not to hire after initial contact. To be fair some providers on here convey very professional attitudes - I’m sure there’s a spectrum of behavior just as there is among clients. Simon Suraci 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 16 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said: only like 1 in 25 who contact, seem to be serious or willing to do the most elementary steps of booking a session lately. Like umm…reading the Ad and Auto Responder and follo So … 4% conversion (don’t know if you mean just serious leads or paying clients) Here are some metrics from sales professionals: “out of 100 leads, you can expect 2 to 5 of them to convert into paying customers” or this: “According to a study by Ruler Analytics, the average conversion rate across various industries is approximately 3.2%” (From Bloomberg Sales Metrics 2023) Unless you’re saying you have less than 1 in 100 inquiries turning into actual closed sales I’m not sure you’re experiencing anything any sales professional doesn’t in their day to day roles. I depend on sales for my Income and these numbers look right to me based on my experience. Jarrod_Uncut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 13 minutes ago, DWnyc said: To be fair some providers on here convey very professional attitudes - I’m sure there’s a spectrum of behavior just as there is among clients. I agree that there are many nice providers here. peter831, Jay_lucas, DWnyc and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 16 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said: the fact that they have to lie about wanting to book something in the first place, it’s petty and irritating. Without seeing / hearing the whole conversation I don’t see what is a lie here. ”I want to book something” isn’t a lie if I don’t end up booking. ”Yes I promise I’ll be there at 2pm on Sunday with a donation of X for Y hours of your time” and then they don’t show up or do but don’t have the donation or expect more than that time - that’s a lie. 16 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said: then hearing, “I didn’t make an appointment.” Well then why contact me in the first place, if they weren’t serious about it? Are you saying the only outcome from contact should be setting up an agreement to meet at a certain time and place for specific terms? If so your expectations from sales outreach are unrealistic. Edited March 30 by DWnyc + nycman and Your Man in Arlington 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 9 minutes ago, DWnyc said: Without seeing / hearing the whole conversation I don’t see what is a lie here. ”I want to book something” isn’t a lie if I don’t end up booking. ”Yes I promise I’ll be there at 2pm on Sunday with a donation of X for Y hours of your time” and then they don’t show up or do but don’t have the donation or expect more than that time - that’s a lie. Are you saying the only outcome from contact should be setting up an agreement to meet at a certain time and place for specific terms? If so your expectations from sales outreach are unrealistic. This provider’s business model is “If you go into my store, you have to buy something. If you ask about a product, you have to buy it.” + nycman, DWnyc and Jarrod_Uncut 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Trick said: I agree that there are many nice providers here. In my brief time as a member, I've noticed certain providers here who, although they may not match my personal preferences, I'd still would hire just to have the opportunity to meet them in person based on their interactions within the forum. Your Man in Arlington, + DrownedBoy, + nycman and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 On 3/28/2024 at 11:53 AM, Jay_lucas said: I had an issue in 2021 where a client flew me out to TX for a three night weekend and never paid me anything. Two sides to every story. I would be curious to hear the client's side of your story. DWnyc and MikeBiDude 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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