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I been talking about this regularly on here. I’m in the Midwest, and I just try to travel every couple weeks to stay busy. I been saying it for a long time, that RentMen and Masseur: I know they’re doing what they can, but I have urged them to do more. Bring back rates would be a start. Even if it’s named differently. The good news is, there’s still clients out there. Surprisingly, I seem to make more per booking, even though bookings are fewer. I’m also trying to go with longer sessions, versus resorting to discounting visits: as that would require taking on more volume.

That sounds very familiar, kinda like…the gay scene. Ha. Who woulda thought. Go to a gay bar on any given busy night, you’ll see somebody bashing it out with their partner. I’ve seen it first hand. They probably aren’t going killer style with it but, it exists. Not that I’m diluting the events that occurred, but I don’t buy into the frenzies because it’s people dealing with that stuff all the time and nothing gets done. The whole OJ thing was bigger than race. It was a turning point. Like one poster earlier said, it paved the way for the general fascination of courtroom drama and even stuff like “forensic files”, all stuff that I googled…many of those shows first premiered in the mid 90s after the trial. Fox News True Crime Newsletter: OJ Simpson death, murder trial started fascination of courtroom drama APPLE.NEWS Stay up to date with the Fox News True Crime Newsletter, which brings you the latest cases ripped from the... Moderator’s note. This message has been edited. Political content removed.

No, YOU are quite delusional…and I know you’re lying 🤥 because, if that was the case, why does this same topic keep coming up over and over on the forum? Reality stars, Instagram influencers and people who don’t show their face? And?They probably don’t do deposits because it’s an occasional thing for them. You name dropping celebrities…those celebrities don’t pay my bills. Could I call them up and ask for money if a $500 appointment fell thru? Hell no. And don’t try to fool me with that Instagram celebrity bullshit. I had to send a guy $$ the other week, because he said he was having financial issues. Since he helped me make a video on my website (which is very hot btw 😆, I didn’t hesitate because I know I could expect some sales from the content we did.

Thanks very much. And that’s what it’s all about. The right to free will and designing their business as they see fit, without being labelled as anything but…a confident person who may have strategized timelessly, to figure out how they wish to do things. It’s been so many times a potential client refers to an escort (including myself every so often) as “a scam” or scammer. I remember one time, a client accused me of being a scammer because he texted the number on my ad, but when I replied it was a different number (I was experimenting with having a separate advertising number, but hadn’t finished setting up the account so I got the message, but it replied from my number). I’m like excuse me? You don’t even know me. In reality, he probably already thought I was a scammer from get go. He just wanted to find any reason to validate his assumption. Aka: timewaster. I think too often, people on the forum side too much with the “client gets nothing, only the escort benefits”. Not true. Well who benefits when the client flakes out, only the client? No, nobody benefits. Even if a provider’s timing of asking for deposit seems “unconventional”, there’s still no proof that he’s a scammer. Like I say, for me I found it best to just say it in my ads and my rentmen autoreply. I no longer show my number, because I got tired of people bum rushing me to meet last minute, but then not want to send a deposit. I stay 60 MILES from the city area where most of my clients come from. On top of that, I often have to travel 3-5 hours to the next city/state to earn a “check”, because majority of guys in my city don’t want to pay. Or they aren’t gay to begin with. What kind of fool would I be, if I were to do these bookings without deposits? Getting dressed, running out, booking rooms etc when only a percentage of those clients a week may actually be serious. Not to mention all the “my wife/son/roommate came home” guys who would likely cancel on me if I didn’t take deposits (which has happened many times, which is why I had to revert to deposits in the first place). It just makes me so annoyed that people here continue to find reasons to make it seem like deposits should not be asked, for all providers. It’s sad. It’s really sad, and it needs to stop. People hiring escorts, even if they don’t want to give anything up front, at the very least ACKNOWLEDGE and respect it, and offer a viable alternative (occasionally I’ll have clients agree to meet and give me the deposit outside in the parking lot…but they have to get to the destination first and wait for me to get there)… In the case of the guy in the lobby being asked for a deposit, again…I don’t know the circumstances of it without a screen shot. Did you previously no show on him? Have you been placed on the naughty list for faking appointments with other providers?

According to whom? I’ve been doing deposit now way back since 2010. It used to mainly be for travel/out of area bookings. But in the last 2-3 years, I decided enough was enough of running around for last minute bookings: booking hotels out of pocket or traveling to a city…and expecting what I thought to get paid, fall thru. There’s even been times I was in a hotel or apartment already: and mofos still didn’t show. I’m not the only one who’s stated this. You have a lot to say about my character. Arrogant? Please. You sound misinformed. Don’t address me again. If you’re going to come with that “don’t hire him” shit, without actually reading all the good reviews I have on both RentMasseur and RentMen from clients who have sent deposits, get outta here 🥾

Well, I think sometimes people want to feel a sense of victory in situations that aren’t always victorious. With that happening in the 90s, and around the time of other charged events…it probably just felt right, in the face of decades of racial injustice. Especially considering the history of lychings to innocent people just over the mere accusation of such crimes. An exoneration seemed like a good victory in comparison. However, at the end of the day it was just an example of wealth and status combined with the all too often and replayed Hollywood tragedy. But likewise, buenos noches to you as well 😴

And on the anniversary of the Titanic; that assumption can often lead to missing: the iceberg 🏔️ right ahead 😐 That may work for some, but many of us don’t operate as lavish as that. I remember chatting to one popular guy here, and he said the same: “I’d love to hookup with other guys after work but…I don’t”. Like I said too, the lack of transparency from Grindr guys is my issue. Last December, I was traveling and stopped in Chicago for the night. I had no bookings, so I decided to go on one of the apps…hoping for something during the time I had my hotel. Which I did, but he didn’t reply back until nearing check out time. I should have continued on to my destination, but I had an extra day to spare…and I was glad to find someone decent, considering all the trash 🚮 I been dealing with most of last year at home. Ended up with $220 in impound fees and damn near panic attack. Like dude, how could you not tell me your apartment complex tows anyone without a permit after 8 p.m. 🤦🏾‍♂️ The apps can be more of a distraction than anything. Sometimes the distraction is beneficial, but other times it just gets me off track and fucks up the flow of what I’m doing. It can often feel like a place to offer “pro-bono” escort services unless they are interested in a consistent, transparent situation.

Absolutely not. But if you go on to make a statement about “Blacks” and then further tie the O.J. verdict to “vengeance” based on that, who’s the straw man now? Like I said, no defense to him at all. I think people may have had his back, up until the memorabilia thing. I don’t doubt he was a despicable person; but that’s a common trait with NFL players are anyway…especially the ones who go on to seek out trophy wives (watch your back, Taylor swift lol j/k). But if we’re going to talk about the bigger picture: let’s include EVERYTHING about the bigger picture. Especially if others are going to throw in suggestions about someone going to hell, and how the whole black community was on his side. Let’s not make those assumptions now. Because if we go there, then we need to include all the examples. OJ wasn’t the only person who got off Scot free. Lot of other people have done some dirt and got off too.

Have fun all…This year started with a lot of responsibilities, and I just can’t swing it this time of year. The hotel chain I used to book thru has closed a few locations in the city, and the options left are inflated and far outside from the action. Of course there’s independent and the nude resorts, but I prefer people to be able to come up to the room without entering a gate. In the future, I wouldn’t mind a BI-annual Palm Springs event 😂 The Coachella event just creates such a gravitational force on the whole valley. I tend to prefer more off season and meet the locals. I will be making my way to SoCal next month though 👍🏾

That sounds hella racist. Blacks? Racial vengeance? What the hell is that? Again, people in the 90s likely hold a different view than now. Just like the George Floyd and even BLM. More Whites are cognitive to injustice than back during those times. I had an Arab friend get a felony for spray painting racist Chinese slur on his brother’s/sister in law’s (who was Chinese) garage. He got off with no jail time (even though he did spend like a year in jail awaiting to see a judge). Sometimes people get too wrapped up in other people’s affairs. I was young when all this broke out, but I remember hating hearing the news about it every fucking day. At the end of the day, it was a family dispute that turned sensational. OJ didn’t go out and kill some person at random. That doesn’t lessen his possible motives, but it shouldn’t have been seen as a race bait by any means. What if the wife and friend were Black, would it make it any less sensational? Not to mention, stuff like privilege is how people like Jeffrey Dahmer and the NYC serial killer both got off for a LOOOONG time and killed SEVERAL before finally being taken down. Sometimes one’s ethnicity, or Celebrity status, even wealth is a privilege in itself: How Jeffrey Dahmer was able to escape justice for so long WWW.UNILAD.COM Experts have weighed in on how the serial killer evaded justice. A friend of mine told me the other day: you always seem to go for White guys, maybe that’s why your dating life is rough. I told him, no…I don’t specifically look for White guys. If they want to talk to me, they talk to me. I may reciprocate, but I don’t often initiate. Because I already know, most White guys won’t give Black guys the chance unless they have an affinity for Black guys. Sad but true. But I have seen people of various backgrounds.

And, is he the first or last? Probably not. I think too many times; a sensational story, trumps what has happened in history and what happens all the time and never goes reported. This is not in defense or objection towards O.J. but: he served his time, he got “his” when he tried to pull off a stunt 2nd time. In the end, nobody here has a heaven or hell to put anyone in. Nobody here has absolute proof that it was him who did it. I have watched various forensic files/48 hours episodes, sometimes “the killer” isn’t always the killer, but the accessory. Nowadays, if someone hires a hit man: there’s different technology to access phone records to trace it down if that were the case. In 1994, that likely wasn’t an option. And for something more relevant: Celebrities Who Got Off Easy for Crimes They Committed WWW.RANKER.COM You might hope that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, but when it comes to legal justice, there is one... Now, the world now is different than it is back in the 90s. Nowadays, celebrity and political status doesn’t “always” get people as far with things like it used to (as we see now with 2 who are in the spotlight). So if it happened today, maybe it would have been a different story.

Well, I’ll just say one thing: After all my time in the gay scene since 14 and now I’m 36: I personally don’t go visit guys in hotels unless they are paying or we’ve met before. They can come to MY hotel. I know that’s the essence of a traveling escort’s business model, but I trust myself more than I do others. And of course some clients who can’t host, don’t have an option. Nothing bad, but even when meeting for free, they can play games too. That’s why awhile back I suggested to clients, don’t always rely on the escort to host…because most “scams” I’ve dealt with, even in non-monetary situations (yes you can get scammed even without money involved), have been when I’ve gone to a guy’s place. One client told me of a friend of his, who basically got “detained” by someone he met for a hookup. Story didn’t add up but still… But I would have to wonder, would said escort take an Uber or drive to a client’s place and then say “I’m here, I just need a deposit 🤔 When you know better, you do better 🤷🏾‍♂️ Also some clients think every escort is a scam. Ask for their number before booking them? You’re a Scammer. Can’t host? You’re a scammer. Ask them for a photo instead of deposit? Scammer. You’re asking for money at all? SCAMMER!!! I can’t please the masses. I rather just work with the people who don’t have a problem with everything you ask of them.

Fixed it for you 😂 As I mentioned previously, that defeats the purpose but I suppose some feel it’s safer to get them there, than to try and do it right at the start. But my thing even if they did, how would make it any more of a scam? If you’re already there, you’re there. Unless the guy sends a deposit and then disappears. But can’t see the issue based just on that. Personally though, I wouldn’t be booking hotels and then hoping clients show up. As stated, that defeats the point. At the same time, I’m less interested in what or why other guys are doing what they do. Mostly just focused on what I find works best for me, eliminates drama, avoids spending money out of pocket only to be left high and dry, etc. In quote from another sex worker:

Well that doesn’t take a hypothetical feat of reasoning to suggest. It happens all the time. As I’ve stated before, many small towns may not have any clients/escort either. Right, and sometimes it’s not even that. Sometimes RentMen only reaches a limited market. It’s unfortunate that Grindr is as popular as it is, but refuses to allow its members to sell their services. The biz would likely be more volume if it were (though I don’t know if that would mean more profitable. Many Grindr meets only work if offering under 150/200). I’ve tested it out before, but I just don’t have the time to sit online 24/7 and respond to guys, send them my number, and sell. Sometimes it’s not about market this, buyer that, etc. It’s often about visibility. Options. Race. Wealth disparity. Personal beliefs and religion.

It seems like some (providers) are going about the deposit thing all wrong. I can’t speak for other guys but, you can’t book a session and then get a deposit at the time it starts. To me it defeats the whole point. You might as well wait and get the funds upfront. The point of the deposit is to ensure you’re not giving out information about your location, or booking hotels/travel before actually solidifying the booking. If I were to go to Los Angeles, pay $300 for a hotel, and then get deposits: it would be a waste of energy because I’ve already spent the money at that point.

Well, the whole point I was making is: it’s not theoretically possible for clients to “run” the escort industry moreso than a provider can. Reason why, most clients dip their toes (and maybe other parts) into the biz only during the time they are seeking it. Whether that’s once a year or once a month. Meanwhile, we are in it daily and going along with the day to day intertwining of it all. If that weren’t the case, clients could simply just name our prices whenever they want.

Awe, sounds so romantic…and it’s true some are exploring. However, my thing is: if they’re going a whole year in between, and then doing it again a year later. And the same thing the following year: where does it end? On top of that, some of the ones I’ve comes across will often want to book it last minute/short notice. When I suggest that I can meet at a certain time instead/need more notice, they just ignore it. Then months later do it again and contact me like they never hit me up before previously. I deal with that a lot in Midwest USA area where I market, and I found the best way to cut down on that behavior was to just remove my phone number from my ads. If they aren’t registered clients to the site, my number doesn’t appear. They have to be willing to do some work and click/read my ad, versus going straight to contact number. Hasn’t fully resolved all but, I’m so happy now that I don’t wake up to a phone full of messages in the morning, from guys who aren’t willing to coordinate or go thru with a visit. On top of that, many of them aren’t new as you may think. Especially in America. I have seen bi-curious guys before, who have never met a provider or guy period. But they go thru everything without the added fantastical drama.

I remember years ago, can’t remember where though: I read something that an escort who’s really serious about going to the next level should always have a “Working name”. I find most of the guys getting into tussles, seem to be picking guys with generic and explicit names. BBCHung, ArabHung, BigWhiteCock, HungLatin are likely all just baits to get you in, and do whatever. Have to be a bit more discerning. Even if they guy is all good and real, it could be the way they move that’s the issue. And if were me, I would never go to a hotel without a room number…Its not the deposit that was the issue. That was just the facilitator. What y’all should have done, is you should have verified his room number by asking if you can call him at his hotel room. In which case he should have mentioned he requires a deposit before providing his room number. That’s where I find sometimes clients are gullible too because, they dash out to meet without doing any common sense checks. And half be bluffing anyway. Of course some of these escorts may be phony too, but that’s why it’s good for both to ensure proper checks.

That’s bullshit. 100% bullshit. What rule derived from the nature of the business you refer to? What do you think came first, the prostitute or the client? You seem to believe that clients CREATED escorting. That clients CREATED RentMen. No, the only thing that has been created by clients is stuff like review boards like this. Maybe in this realm, people can assume rules they can or won’t do. Other than that, y’all aren’t running the business either, nor making rules for how providers wish to run things. I’m fine with clients paying after they have received, however a deposit is not negotiable. Granted in the case of this guy, the deposit did seem to be asked a bit late. I don’t even give out my hotel name or address without a deposit. They get cross streets, where there’s likely 5 other hotels nearby. That said, unless someone posts the exchange of what occurred…who’s to say it actually happened verbatim? Something could be missing here. I find most stories here hard to believe without text message screenshots from start to finish.

Nah, see…lately I’ve moved to the 1 chance cancellation. Especially if like the other day; dude sends me pictures, an elaborate text about wanting to meet, and then saying “outcall to a hotel in (insert city but with no hotel name). Then, goes ghost or cancel? I’ll give them a 2nd chance; if they send a cancellation fee. But if they then proceed to decline the request (either thru cash app/venmo), they’re blocked. I don’t need someone getting the opportunity to not be reliable more than once. Once is enough as it is. And if they try to slide thru a 2nd time later, they will be reminded.

And just so people know, I’m sure by “in mind”, doesn’t mean call them all within the same time? Sometimes I’ve had people contact, maybe I stepped out the room without my phone and didn’t notice the message until I went to do my routine phone check (also having two separate phones is very easy for it to happen). If I reach back out and they say they’ve “called someone else” and it hasn’t even been 30 minutes to an hour, not cool.

I guess in my case though, the past few hookups I’ve had have mostly been with all new guys. I used to have a regular FWB in the area, but I think he got too strung out on whatever he was doing (that I was not) and I haven’t seen him around in awhile. And with it being new guys, they haven’t been consistent. It’s not even just about monetizing it, but more like: “they aren’t on this journey with me.” So…what are we doing? I know it sounds like a money thing, but there’s other aspects to it. Like recognizing one another’s struggles/ambitions. Which again, technically I guess it’s not to be expected in hookups, but that’s why it loses its value for me at times. I’ll mention even further, many of my latest hookups have been on the interracial front…so sometimes I feel EVEN MORE that the guys are going into it NSA by default, and generally viewing it like we have not much in common except fucking. At the same time, it’s not just limited to that. Similar race dudes be playing games too, but the other week a friend made a suggestion about my hookups based on the last guy I quasi-dated briefly. Well yeah, I don’t think “I should have charged for that” either necessarily. Even though I admit I HAVE had those feelings, but that was more in my younger days. When I talk about the monetary part of things, it’s not necessarily that I’m asking to get paid: but rather for people to contribute. And most hookup guys don’t want to contribute. Like the other week, I spent money to get a nice hotel room in downtown area of town: not for a client, but to spend time with a “past Instagram hookup” guy for a night out. Now, I didn’t EXPECT him to offer to pay half or a portion, nor did I get my hopes up that he didn’t: but the fact that he didn’t, it further goes to show how these hookups are one sided. Technically I didn’t have the money reserved to do that, but I did so because it was convenient near him…since I live far. But since then, he’s been acting fake and phony, selectively returning messages, and didn’t even include me in his concert plans last weekend. Yet I’m spending money on a hotel? That’s bullshit. He won’t be getting a 2nd effort date from me. Occasionally I have ask guys to go partial on a room and some been okay with it, if their place isn’t suitable. But as I’ve said elsewhere, I don’t always like spending the night with new guys because some aren’t always transparent about their time obligations. I’m not some trick or tramp to be made to leave out at 8 a.m. I’m just over it though. I think I been in a funk about hookups/dating ever since February: I went to reconnect with a guy in another state, he was making all the right moves and on his best behavior, and then started acting weird out of nowhere. I could tell he wasn’t being genuine about his intentions, and it just made me realize how stupid I was to think he was going to be any “different” than the rest of the scene queens in that town. Thats why I’m like, I have to limit how much I give myself up to the non-pay breeds. Their lack of transparency in situations…can’t go too far out of my way for them, because they won’t do the same. Lot of these guys act like bad clients, who should be blocked and blacklisted lol.

I’ll add too: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE to the universe, clients STOP 🛑 using Rent messenger or email to arrange bookings on anything same day notice. Example (me in green): Now granted, I know this person is real because we’ve met before…but it’s been awhile (like over 2 years), and he mentioned RM doesn’t send him pop up notifications anymore. So, he didn’t see my message until the morning. I try to let clients know; SENSE OF URGENCY. I’m normally not a rushed person, and my days are fairly relaxed. It’s not that I’m impatient on their response, but when I’m working on HOTEL time, or I’m driving between places…I don’t have time for back and forth messages or half ass responses. I probably come off angry sometimes (maybe even all the time lol) when I discuss certain situations. But people have to understand when you’re being limited on time by outside forces, the urgency for a plan/reply is real. It’s not angry, it’s just emphasizing something that doesn’t seem to resonate with the vast majority. Escort encounters aren’t like hookup apps, there’s a different dynamic. We’re not always looking at the exact same time. In this case, I almost missed the guy because the hotel wouldn’t let me check out later than 1 pm without an extra charge. And he had somewhere to be at 2. And I originally wanted him to come to my hotel, but I then had to leave and go to his place: If we would have settled all the details the DAY PRIOR HINT HINT ADVANCE NOTICE, I could have been ready to meet him at 10:30 or 11, and still had at least an hour left to checkout.

I often have a regular 1 to 2 day notice preference, and a separate 2 to 4 hours (minimum) same day notice preference. Most bookings seem to be within a week time frame, however same day notice is common: in which I’ll tell people, “2 hours MINIMUM notice required”. But otherwise yes, same day notice is a crapshoot. Had one guy in one of my travel cities who kept trying to meet me same day, and this is what I told him (me in green): That’s the kind of stuff that creates a breakdown in communication. Instead of trying to actually coordinate a convenient day and time, dude just kept trying to meet me right away and would say, “I’ll check back with you” when I said I wasn’t available until the next day. Then same thing the next day, and getting the same answer. On top of that, without a deposit they haven’t gotten on my schedule to cancel in the first place. 4 to 6 weeks notice is a bit far out for me personally just because, I travel like every 2-3 weeks. And I don’t want to be concerned to return home for 1 appointment, especially if I’m doing well on tour.

That is very gracious. However, long as people understand that it shouldn’t be “expected” for all providers to be okay with eating the possibility of a cancelled session. Lot of times, people cancel/flake and offer nothing.