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Makes sense, and I know you’re well meaning so…I’m moreso referring to the “overall” impression when someone is trying to get someone to meet on the dot. However I can’t see how the rest of that conversation went earlier that you posted. I just think clocking the arrival to be there in that fashion might come off pushy to another provider, unless you know the guy and are just joking around with him. Also for me, as stated earlier: I usually try to give a time window because of my commute to get to appointments. 12-12:30 is less stressful than trying to arrive by midnight. It’s amazing how much time I lose just stopping to get gas or stopping at traffic lights. What seems like 30 seconds, ends up adding 15 minutes to the commute. And since most client’s location isn’t a regular, everyday commute, there’s also the not knowing what detours/etc may lie ahead. But this is also why I only do deposit Outcalls because, I would hate to travel out somewhere only to be stood up or cancelled en route. Last month: I arrived on time and in 15 minutes of a client calling me as I was already out driving around and nearby (another reason too I don’t answer calls or blocked numbers). Since he was so close, I didn’t even bother asking deposit. This imbecile had me going to a hotel, knocking on the door and wouldn’t answer. I left, he called me back again claiming he didn’t hear me knocking, and did the same thing 🤦🏾‍♂️ I even had to get the front desk involved by calling the room. No reply. Never again…

Personally I don’t like this approach. Idk if this is someone you know already…but if someone texted me in that fashion, I would tell them: “if you think you can get to me faster, then maybe you should arrange an in-call.” I would just find it quite pushy. Similar to another thread I have up, I think Grace periods can be done away with all together and traded for proper communication. My absolute pet peeve, is when a client tries to cancel in the middle of my commute, which can vary from 20 minutes in town to 5 hours when going to the next city. But it’s usually always an hour because I don’t have any gay, affluent men in my town. So I have to drive out Kansas City 2-3 days a week just to get bookings, unless I’m visiting a different city and have a hotel close by everything. Imagine if an escort was rushing to reach a client, and then crashed and injured himself or someone else in the process? Because clients love to text, “are you close? Are you coming? Are you there? Okay just cancel and send deposit back” 😤 I doubt these guys were on their way to a client but, similar to this accident in Dallas the other month, shit like this happens everyday during “Rush hour”: And contrary to belief, many clients contacting sex workers give lousy notice. They think just because they contact and ask for a time, that it’ll work. Then they wonder why the escort isn’t on time. And often times, expect it same day notice. Which is fine, but if someone wants a same day booking, they have to be willing to be patient…not bent out of shape over a 30 minute or even 2 hour delay. That’s not a lot of time. Whenever I call dentist, eye doctor, car repair, etc etc: I often can’t even get an appointment in for at least a week. In St. Louis, I was waiting MONTHS just to see a specialist. By the time they were ready to schedule me, I either had to cancel or the ailment healed on it’s on. But there was definitely no, “U AVAILABLE TONIGHT?” 🙄 What really gets me: are the ones who wait MONTHS/YEARS between texts, but then can’t be bothered to give the escort a few extra minutes/couple hours more time to arrive. Like hold: you haven’t contacted me since 2021. Now it’s an emergency?

Bingo. And I’ll add further: guys have to either A) not plan stuff too close the session or at the very least B)inform the provider that they have something going on. Now case in point, I know showing text conversations can be a bit drawn out to read but, when they say there’s “2 sides to every story”, there’s a reason why. Now this is me in green (non iPhone conversation) #1 the above invite happens hours after his last text around noon. And I didn’t even think he was trying to meet the next day at all. That’s why I told @marylander1940, the day before isn’t necessarily plenty of notice in ALL cases. Normally it MIGHT be, but not if someone just happens to pick a day I have something planned. And if it’s a city that’s out of state, double that amount of notice. Next: #2 why the f**k would he wait until several conversations later the next day, close to the time of the booking to tell me he has a company dinner planned? If he had limited time constraints, I told him he should have communicated that better…just like I told him when I needed to. Then later on in the message he says, “we should push it to next Wednesday”. What makes him think I’m even available then, especially when I may have had a need for the money the day we planned . Now I’m supposed to be willing to wait a whole week? The audacity 🤦🏾‍♂️ And I know it sounds like I’m just harping on that 1 booking but, I’ve seen things like this happen before. The client comes across pushy and impatient, despite previously making it seem he had plenty of availability previously. It wasn’t necessarily the time of day that was the issue.

Keep reading… In this person’s case: dude is a single gay man with no wife or kids to go home to. He has an ex husband, which sounds like he’s gotten stiffed on the divorce (and probably taking it out on me in the process), but it’s not due to having to be home by a certain time. The main point though is, I think clients need to recognize that escorts/masseurs don’t necessarily live to revolve their world around them. And I dislike when a client makes me feel like my effort to drive to them is insignificant. This particular client had a nack for being impatient with me, and idk if it’s anxiety, controlling or what: but I would imagine most escorts would have dropped him right off the bat. But being I have a limited amount of guys to work with in the market I live: I can endure it, TO AN EXTENT. But at this point, I’m tired. I don’t have time for bossy, demeaning, petty dudes who think their narrow timelines, is more important than essential things I may have to handle. Some of them don’t realize: if these things aren’t taken care, I can’t operate or be in a capacity to meet them at all.

I’ve checked out dayuse, but unless it’s someplace like New York/Los Angeles or you really have a need to check into a hotel early, I have seen Day use to cost almost as much as a night at a hotel. Usually something like Check in at 9 a.m., checkout at 5. I usually prefer to get the full day’s use. Perhaps if you’re very early and just flying into town, but I’ve had times where I just really asked the hotel for an early check in due to extenuating circumstances. Doesn’t always get granted though so, I’ve just stuck with making certain “hours” that I’m available to host. No worries, I’m not too fixated on discussing the topic in great detail. I’ve just always wanted to say that, because idk how some manage to take daytime only clients, and still work 9 to 5. That said, this particular client was an occasional repeat. So we’ve met a handful of times already. However, the whole time we’ve known each other; it’s been an issue with his unwillingness to be patient, and him occasionally cancelling when I’m getting ready or on my way (sometimes he would send cancel fee/deposits, other times we’d have to argue it), despite me being the one commuting to his place which he knows is over an hour away across town. This time he didn’t want to send one, and wanted to start being condescending and arguing. I’m like screw this, he was already going to get a special price and couldn’t be considerate of that. I told him, it’s people like you who make doing business in this town (Kansas City) a living hell. Many the clients out here are demanding, argue over price, not reliable, always creating some drama and animosity if the slightest thing doesn’t go their way or you speak up for yourself. It zaps energy and undermines confidence. That’s why I just have to focus more on getting out of this area for awhile going into next month. My phone has been busy: but only from clients in other cities I’m advertising in. This has been a burden to endure…

Umm yes…And I told him this the night before. But then the next day, he acts like I didn’t tell him this. I specifically said: “I don’t want to schedule 4 p.m. because I have obligations at 1 p.m. that could take at least two hours.” Then I added, 5/5:30 I can do. He sends me a snarky reply that made me predict he was going to do the same he always does: cancels and says it’s going to be too late. Which sure enough the next day 2 hours prior to 5:30, he drops he has a company dinner, tells me if I can’t make it by 6 to cancel, even though I told him again, I could be there at 5:30. 🤦🏾‍♂️ So no, 10 p.m. for 4 p.m. the next day isn’t sufficient notice when the person has stuff going on in the afternoon that could conflict with that timing. I can text every contact on my phone and ask them to meet me at 4:30 tomorrow. And guess how many will be available? Most likely non except one who is always available anytime, but most likely non because it’s short notice. 🤷🏾‍♂️ On top of that, he lives over an hour from me, add 20 minutes during the daytime regardless what day of week. He knows this, but what he wants me to do is: cancel my plans and rush thru all of it to cater to him. And I’m not about to do that.

I consider myself fairly easy to buy (or “rent” I should say), however easy doesn’t always come with the perk of choosing any time one wants (I’m not a movie showing). Like I said above, this particular client has a way of making things all about his timing as if, it’s more important than mine. Which is why I told him to ✌yesterday because I can’t be continuously subjected to that type of attitude. However, I think just in general it’s good to try and coordinate a mutually agreeable time, so that it doesn’t risk conflicting with what someone may have going on. I don’t mind Day time bookings (daytime play be quite relaxing!) but I just remember all the jobs I’ve had before escorting, middle of day hardly ever worked out to meet unless it was my day off.

That’s the thing: I am not a “per day” type of provider. In fact, I recently started to mention this in my ads: I don’t want people to assume I’m seeing 2-3-10 clients a day. I just don’t book that way, nor see a need to. To me, that’s like trying to go on multiple “dates” in a day. I usually only schedule 1, maybe 2, possibly 3 if everybody coordinates properly. 4 is not impossible but, I would say that only happens once or twice a year in the more affluent markets. Most big cities have too many other providers to make that happen. In the case of adapting: my thing is this particular client tells me this at 10 p.m. the night before, after previously waiting all week and even saying, “in a few weeks I’ll be able to”. But then drops in my lap: “4 pm tomorrow?”Like excuse me? I just feel people assume, “you don’t have a regular job, so you probably aren’t doing anything”. I actually parted ways with him (and I’m saying that kindly) because each appointment: he is often impatient about timing and always seems to have something better to do, or other plans to make. I like those who are willing to be a bit patient and considerate. People have to recognize that before any times can be given, checking to see what time works for both doesn’t hurt.

As an update: I’m noticing my local area has become flooded with advertisers for Memorial weekend. At this point, I’m just like fuck it…I’m leaving the area. I’m just not as big fan of holidays much. It can be too much of a shark tank between hotel rooms, client availability, and overall planning. Over Mother’s Day weekend, I noticed business dropped off and hasn’t rebounded since. With Memorial Day, I imagine a lot of people will be with family or this and that event. I’ll probably just leave my number for registered users since I can only take on pre-booked inquiries at this point.

…Considering the fact that it seems 99.9% of booking requests mostly seem to want to meet before 5. Just the other day I was telling a return client that I could not meet him at 4 p.m., but that I could do 5/5:30 instead. Nope, too late for him. Only thing is, he didn’t tell me that until the day of the booking. However, the night before he said he was off work…but never said he had a company dinner later that evening to be to at 8 🤦🏾‍♂️ I ended up telling him that I can no longer be available for weekday bookings before 5 p.m. I feel people think just because I don’t have a conventional 9-5, that I’m readily available in the middle of the day. Which I can be. But from time to time, those are hours that I’m trying to get stuff done before other businesses close. And it was around that time I was at another place of business trying to figure out something serious, which meant I needed a break between that and driving to see him. I also stated this in another thread; when I’m on hotel time I don’t always have the luxury to meet during the late morning or early afternoon at all. Recently I met with someone and even though it was a great time and it all worked out even with timing, he needed to meet before 2 p.m. So I had to get into the hotel before technical hotel time, but I’ve had times that’s not been possible. And it seems a lot of the times I wait around for evening bookings: they’re mostly always same day bookings which means: if I have anything planned that evening, it’s going to be cancelled or postponed. Not trying to put down anyone who needs daytime bookings but, just wondering because it often seems there’s a culture of promoting “business man by day, male escort at night/weekdays” but I find many people don’t book at night or weekends. I feel like between noon and 4 p.m. is “rush hour” in the escort world. But not always on a predictable basis like traffic.

Btw which cities were these in or was it in multiple locations? Were they all actual appointments or just inquiries? I know sometimes what seems to be, isn’t always lol…

…Oklahoma seems a different market than it used to be that’s for sure. I’m debating if I want to travel this Memorial weekend, however last year I was in Houston and Dallas for two days each, but it was so quiet and most people were either out of town or had plans. So yeah, I feel sometimes these holidays are better to stay local however…I’m tired of waiting around for bookings in my current location. If I go anywhere, it will definitely be a less competitive city this time.

Well…at the end of the day we can’t allow possibilities to ruin the fun. We have to try to still enjoy things even in the face of concern. Hell, the latest “gathering” incident occurred at a Kansas City football parade. I wasn’t there for it, but I’ve seen how the Kansas City people can be in large crowds so, I wasn’t interested from the get go. Also smaller city prides may be safer than big ones like New York and Los Angeles. Some cities are underrated for their pride events: Denver, Des Moines in Iowa, St. Pete in Florida. Maybe Buffalo probably has a good one themselves. I think like someone suggested, staying aware and alert (which means avoiding getting overly intoxicated/using drugs), and avoiding tightly packed crowded sections can likely make a difference. I’ve always found it safer to spectate from the edge of a large crowd, and that’s regardless terrorist or not. Just helps keep distance and avoids drama. That’s at any event whether 4th of July parade or gay pride. I’ve also noticed police presence at most pride parades are really on point. In some ways, I don’t want to see them because it feels like a protest, but in other ways it means it’s hard to get away with anything mischievous.

I been talking about this regularly on here. I’m in the Midwest, and I just try to travel every couple weeks to stay busy. I been saying it for a long time, that RentMen and Masseur: I know they’re doing what they can, but I have urged them to do more. Bring back rates would be a start. Even if it’s named differently. The good news is, there’s still clients out there. Surprisingly, I seem to make more per booking, even though bookings are fewer. I’m also trying to go with longer sessions, versus resorting to discounting visits: as that would require taking on more volume.

That sounds very familiar, kinda like…the gay scene. Ha. Who woulda thought. Go to a gay bar on any given busy night, you’ll see somebody bashing it out with their partner. I’ve seen it first hand. They probably aren’t going killer style with it but, it exists. Not that I’m diluting the events that occurred, but I don’t buy into the frenzies because it’s people dealing with that stuff all the time and nothing gets done. The whole OJ thing was bigger than race. It was a turning point. Like one poster earlier said, it paved the way for the general fascination of courtroom drama and even stuff like “forensic files”, all stuff that I googled…many of those shows first premiered in the mid 90s after the trial. Fox News True Crime Newsletter: OJ Simpson death, murder trial started fascination of courtroom drama APPLE.NEWS Stay up to date with the Fox News True Crime Newsletter, which brings you the latest cases ripped from the... Moderator’s note. This message has been edited. Political content removed.

No, YOU are quite delusional…and I know you’re lying 🤥 because, if that was the case, why does this same topic keep coming up over and over on the forum? Reality stars, Instagram influencers and people who don’t show their face? And?They probably don’t do deposits because it’s an occasional thing for them. You name dropping celebrities…those celebrities don’t pay my bills. Could I call them up and ask for money if a $500 appointment fell thru? Hell no. And don’t try to fool me with that Instagram celebrity bullshit. I had to send a guy $$ the other week, because he said he was having financial issues. Since he helped me make a video on my website (which is very hot btw 😆, I didn’t hesitate because I know I could expect some sales from the content we did.

Thanks very much. And that’s what it’s all about. The right to free will and designing their business as they see fit, without being labelled as anything but…a confident person who may have strategized timelessly, to figure out how they wish to do things. It’s been so many times a potential client refers to an escort (including myself every so often) as “a scam” or scammer. I remember one time, a client accused me of being a scammer because he texted the number on my ad, but when I replied it was a different number (I was experimenting with having a separate advertising number, but hadn’t finished setting up the account so I got the message, but it replied from my number). I’m like excuse me? You don’t even know me. In reality, he probably already thought I was a scammer from get go. He just wanted to find any reason to validate his assumption. Aka: timewaster. I think too often, people on the forum side too much with the “client gets nothing, only the escort benefits”. Not true. Well who benefits when the client flakes out, only the client? No, nobody benefits. Even if a provider’s timing of asking for deposit seems “unconventional”, there’s still no proof that he’s a scammer. Like I say, for me I found it best to just say it in my ads and my rentmen autoreply. I no longer show my number, because I got tired of people bum rushing me to meet last minute, but then not want to send a deposit. I stay 60 MILES from the city area where most of my clients come from. On top of that, I often have to travel 3-5 hours to the next city/state to earn a “check”, because majority of guys in my city don’t want to pay. Or they aren’t gay to begin with. What kind of fool would I be, if I were to do these bookings without deposits? Getting dressed, running out, booking rooms etc when only a percentage of those clients a week may actually be serious. Not to mention all the “my wife/son/roommate came home” guys who would likely cancel on me if I didn’t take deposits (which has happened many times, which is why I had to revert to deposits in the first place). It just makes me so annoyed that people here continue to find reasons to make it seem like deposits should not be asked, for all providers. It’s sad. It’s really sad, and it needs to stop. People hiring escorts, even if they don’t want to give anything up front, at the very least ACKNOWLEDGE and respect it, and offer a viable alternative (occasionally I’ll have clients agree to meet and give me the deposit outside in the parking lot…but they have to get to the destination first and wait for me to get there)… In the case of the guy in the lobby being asked for a deposit, again…I don’t know the circumstances of it without a screen shot. Did you previously no show on him? Have you been placed on the naughty list for faking appointments with other providers?

According to whom? I’ve been doing deposit now way back since 2010. It used to mainly be for travel/out of area bookings. But in the last 2-3 years, I decided enough was enough of running around for last minute bookings: booking hotels out of pocket or traveling to a city…and expecting what I thought to get paid, fall thru. There’s even been times I was in a hotel or apartment already: and mofos still didn’t show. I’m not the only one who’s stated this. You have a lot to say about my character. Arrogant? Please. You sound misinformed. Don’t address me again. If you’re going to come with that “don’t hire him” shit, without actually reading all the good reviews I have on both RentMasseur and RentMen from clients who have sent deposits, get outta here 🥾

Well, I think sometimes people want to feel a sense of victory in situations that aren’t always victorious. With that happening in the 90s, and around the time of other charged events…it probably just felt right, in the face of decades of racial injustice. Especially considering the history of lychings to innocent people just over the mere accusation of such crimes. An exoneration seemed like a good victory in comparison. However, at the end of the day it was just an example of wealth and status combined with the all too often and replayed Hollywood tragedy. But likewise, buenos noches to you as well 😴

And on the anniversary of the Titanic; that assumption can often lead to missing: the iceberg 🏔️ right ahead 😐 That may work for some, but many of us don’t operate as lavish as that. I remember chatting to one popular guy here, and he said the same: “I’d love to hookup with other guys after work but…I don’t”. Like I said too, the lack of transparency from Grindr guys is my issue. Last December, I was traveling and stopped in Chicago for the night. I had no bookings, so I decided to go on one of the apps…hoping for something during the time I had my hotel. Which I did, but he didn’t reply back until nearing check out time. I should have continued on to my destination, but I had an extra day to spare…and I was glad to find someone decent, considering all the trash 🚮 I been dealing with most of last year at home. Ended up with $220 in impound fees and damn near panic attack. Like dude, how could you not tell me your apartment complex tows anyone without a permit after 8 p.m. 🤦🏾‍♂️ The apps can be more of a distraction than anything. Sometimes the distraction is beneficial, but other times it just gets me off track and fucks up the flow of what I’m doing. It can often feel like a place to offer “pro-bono” escort services unless they are interested in a consistent, transparent situation.

Absolutely not. But if you go on to make a statement about “Blacks” and then further tie the O.J. verdict to “vengeance” based on that, who’s the straw man now? Like I said, no defense to him at all. I think people may have had his back, up until the memorabilia thing. I don’t doubt he was a despicable person; but that’s a common trait with NFL players are anyway…especially the ones who go on to seek out trophy wives (watch your back, Taylor swift lol j/k). But if we’re going to talk about the bigger picture: let’s include EVERYTHING about the bigger picture. Especially if others are going to throw in suggestions about someone going to hell, and how the whole black community was on his side. Let’s not make those assumptions now. Because if we go there, then we need to include all the examples. OJ wasn’t the only person who got off Scot free. Lot of other people have done some dirt and got off too.

Have fun all…This year started with a lot of responsibilities, and I just can’t swing it this time of year. The hotel chain I used to book thru has closed a few locations in the city, and the options left are inflated and far outside from the action. Of course there’s independent and the nude resorts, but I prefer people to be able to come up to the room without entering a gate. In the future, I wouldn’t mind a BI-annual Palm Springs event 😂 The Coachella event just creates such a gravitational force on the whole valley. I tend to prefer more off season and meet the locals. I will be making my way to SoCal next month though 👍🏾

That sounds hella racist. Blacks? Racial vengeance? What the hell is that? Again, people in the 90s likely hold a different view than now. Just like the George Floyd and even BLM. More Whites are cognitive to injustice than back during those times. I had an Arab friend get a felony for spray painting racist Chinese slur on his brother’s/sister in law’s (who was Chinese) garage. He got off with no jail time (even though he did spend like a year in jail awaiting to see a judge). Sometimes people get too wrapped up in other people’s affairs. I was young when all this broke out, but I remember hating hearing the news about it every fucking day. At the end of the day, it was a family dispute that turned sensational. OJ didn’t go out and kill some person at random. That doesn’t lessen his possible motives, but it shouldn’t have been seen as a race bait by any means. What if the wife and friend were Black, would it make it any less sensational? Not to mention, stuff like privilege is how people like Jeffrey Dahmer and the NYC serial killer both got off for a LOOOONG time and killed SEVERAL before finally being taken down. Sometimes one’s ethnicity, or Celebrity status, even wealth is a privilege in itself: How Jeffrey Dahmer was able to escape justice for so long WWW.UNILAD.COM Experts have weighed in on how the serial killer evaded justice. A friend of mine told me the other day: you always seem to go for White guys, maybe that’s why your dating life is rough. I told him, no…I don’t specifically look for White guys. If they want to talk to me, they talk to me. I may reciprocate, but I don’t often initiate. Because I already know, most White guys won’t give Black guys the chance unless they have an affinity for Black guys. Sad but true. But I have seen people of various backgrounds.

And, is he the first or last? Probably not. I think too many times; a sensational story, trumps what has happened in history and what happens all the time and never goes reported. This is not in defense or objection towards O.J. but: he served his time, he got “his” when he tried to pull off a stunt 2nd time. In the end, nobody here has a heaven or hell to put anyone in. Nobody here has absolute proof that it was him who did it. I have watched various forensic files/48 hours episodes, sometimes “the killer” isn’t always the killer, but the accessory. Nowadays, if someone hires a hit man: there’s different technology to access phone records to trace it down if that were the case. In 1994, that likely wasn’t an option. And for something more relevant: Celebrities Who Got Off Easy for Crimes They Committed WWW.RANKER.COM You might hope that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, but when it comes to legal justice, there is one... Now, the world now is different than it is back in the 90s. Nowadays, celebrity and political status doesn’t “always” get people as far with things like it used to (as we see now with 2 who are in the spotlight). So if it happened today, maybe it would have been a different story.

Well, I’ll just say one thing: After all my time in the gay scene since 14 and now I’m 36: I personally don’t go visit guys in hotels unless they are paying or we’ve met before. They can come to MY hotel. I know that’s the essence of a traveling escort’s business model, but I trust myself more than I do others. And of course some clients who can’t host, don’t have an option. Nothing bad, but even when meeting for free, they can play games too. That’s why awhile back I suggested to clients, don’t always rely on the escort to host…because most “scams” I’ve dealt with, even in non-monetary situations (yes you can get scammed even without money involved), have been when I’ve gone to a guy’s place. One client told me of a friend of his, who basically got “detained” by someone he met for a hookup. Story didn’t add up but still… But I would have to wonder, would said escort take an Uber or drive to a client’s place and then say “I’m here, I just need a deposit 🤔 When you know better, you do better 🤷🏾‍♂️ Also some clients think every escort is a scam. Ask for their number before booking them? You’re a Scammer. Can’t host? You’re a scammer. Ask them for a photo instead of deposit? Scammer. You’re asking for money at all? SCAMMER!!! I can’t please the masses. I rather just work with the people who don’t have a problem with everything you ask of them.