Thoughts on deposits

[Jarrod_Uncut]

5 hours ago, south_king said:

but honestly I’ve never seen someone legit asking me for a deposit. The only ones who did were scammers. I guess I would be fine if there were some conditions. Like if I cancel more than 24h in advance I get the deposit back, or I can use it as credit for another day.

I find that hard to believe. I’d have to wonder the quality of the ad which was in question. Someone promising the world, and not doing much of any screening before getting deposit? I know for me, I usually ask a list 📝  of details beforehand so I know if I am even a fit for the client.

One thing that should be noted is: an escort NOT asking for deposit doesn’t necessarily imply NOT a scammer either. You can get scammed meeting with cash only too. 

Also: canceling more than 24 hours in advance, isn’t really as much of a life saver like it is for say: hotels and rental cars which once again, tend to have multiple rooms/cars, multiple employees, and multiple customers that can all be serviced at once.

For me, I have decided I’ll reapply a deposit within 7 days.

 

Edited March 15 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

8 hours ago, Trick said:

 
There’s no fighting here, just expressing opinions. 

Sure, but the constant back and forth is just annoying as fuck and not getting anyone anywhere. 

Time for pizza.

Edited March 15 by BenjaminNicholas

[Njguy2]

@Jay_lucas  The business model that a practitioner utilizes doesn't have to be static approach of request deposit/don't request deposit, it can adapt to the market they use as a home base versus when traveling (this shouldn't be rocket science).  In looking at the two major platforms (RentMasseur and RentMen), and conducting a simple profile search of the word "Deposit" only 32 of 4,306 (0.74314909%) of Rentmasseur practitioners and 68 of 10,688 (0.636622%) of Rentmen practitioners outrightly state that a Deposit would be required at some stage of engagement.

Practitioners choose what business model works for them best.   Scanning only a couple of profiles on each, it was clear that for some of the practitioners it wasn't required in all instances and for others it was a hard and fast rule.   Note there maybe other practitioners that utilize phrasing in place of "Deposit" but I don't think that would move the numbers much.   Good luck with the search of practitioners that meet your needs.   As for myself, a practitioner who would require a deposit isn't the business model I prefer.

Edited March 15 by Njguy2

[Trick]

13 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

Sure, but the constant back and forth is just annoying as fuck and not getting anyone anywhere. 

Time for pizza.

Already finished a box since I let go of the back and forth.

[Boaxxx]

The topic is "Thoughts on Deposits" which can be translated to "Opinions on Deposits". Can we just let folks state their preference and move on? Why does everything need to turn into a toxic back and forth. I've never been asked for a deposit nor do I think I would pay a deposit unless I was really certain that the meeting was going to take place. Just my answer/opinion to the question and I'm not going to argue with anyone if you feel that I am wrong.

Now have a blessed day 💗

[Jarrod_Uncut]

16 hours ago, Njguy2 said:

 In looking at the two major platforms (RentMasseur and RentMen), and conducting a simple profile search of the word "Deposit" only 32 of 4,306 (0.74314909%) of Rentmasseur practitioners and 68 of 10,688 (0.636622%) of Rentmen practitioners outrightly state that a Deposit would be required at some stage of engagement.

Note there maybe other practitioners that utilize phrasing in place of "Deposit" but I don't think that would move the numbers much.   Good luck with the search of practitioners that meet your needs.   As for myself, a practitioner who would require a deposit isn't the business model I prefer.

Reason for this is: in the states at least, you simply can’t get use the word “deposit” on RentMen. They will delete it just like they deleted rates. I can’t say deposit in my ad, but I’ve been able to use other code that is quite clear on the deposit asked.

Also, I checked your search results: good idea however, that is only pulling up results within the area you are in, what city are you looking in? 

 

11 hours ago, Boaxxx said:

Can we just let folks state their preference and move on? Why does everything need to turn into a toxic back and forth. I've never been asked for a deposit nor do I think I would pay a deposit unless I was really certain that the meeting was going to take place. Just my answer/opinion to the question and I'm not going to argue with anyone if you feel that I am wrong.

Now have a blessed day 💗

I’ll tell you why (I know that’s probably not what you want). Because one particular person went from stating an opinion, to then recommending others not to do something. That’s where the problem lies. Agree or disagree, but don’t start telling others not to do it and then further reference other guys who don’t. Other guys/escorts aren’t going to pay my bills or my hotel/gas if a client cancels. Period. So, nobody should talk about what other escorts do and don’t do. It’s not about that. 
 

In addition, each time it comes up…someone adds “but I won’t do it”. So then the discussion continues. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the back and forth. It takes a bit of communication to come to an understanding, and also getting to the nitty gritty behind why some do and don’t. I think this is probably the most in depth it’s ever gotten. 
 

I seen one escort in his ad claim, “I don’t accept pay app payments, the federal government is watching our transactions.” Which is not true. I don’t think it should have ever even been approved, but…once again people have their reasonings. I know many clients, even the non-deposit guys, will still use a pay app to settle up. 

Now, with everything said: it does make me question if I want to continue deposits…however at this particular point in my life, I’m not sure its the right timing to get rid of it, even with business being slow. Maybe at some point this year when I have a full time in-call back up and running, and most of my bookings are within 30 minutes away.
 

But even still: I service a sketchy market. Kansas City. The vast majority of guys offering to pay here: want us to host. And often on short notice. Even outcalls are same day requested, and it’s just too much trying to do those without deposits. Imagine how stupid and foolish it feels to leave a friend/family member/event to meet a client and he flakes? Do that a few times, over the course of a few months and you hopefully learn to do deposits. 

However it’s not just here, just about every city in the country has its flakes…persistent flakes who are dismissive, and then come around 6 months later like it never happened. Like wait: aren’t you the same MoFo who said “nevermind/you’ll pass/no I don’t do deposits” and now you’re trying to get with me again? If I’m such a scammer, or my rates are too high, why are you still trying to get in contact with me 🤔 

But as stated: I’ve been in the industry without deposits, longer than I have been with. The only difference is, I’m not going extra miles hoping the client is real; nor taking last minute or advanced bookings at a loss. 

Edited March 16 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jay_lucas]

On 3/14/2024 at 7:53 PM, azdr0710 said:

by the way, welcome to the forum @Jay_lucas  

it's not always this way!.......sometimes we talk about air fryers, thread count on bed sheets, and mutual funds........

I hope you'll stick around....... 

thank you, babe ❤️

[Passionate_lover318]

@Jay_lucas I’m sorry you went through this, handsome. See you this weekend and we will talk about it.

[SirBillybob]

On 3/14/2024 at 7:53 PM, azdr0710 said:

by the way, welcome to the forum @Jay_lucas  

it's not always this way!.......sometimes we talk about air fryers, thread count on bed sheets, and mutual funds........

I hope you'll stick around....... 

In fact, I am surprised that the topic has not devolved to that of thread count investment considerations given prospective sperm counts deposited on bed sheets relative to the variable of booking deposits. 

[Njguy2]

On 3/15/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Reason for this is: in the states at least, you simply can’t get use the word “deposit” on RentMen. They will delete it just like they deleted rates. I can’t say deposit in my ad, but I’ve been able to use other code that is quite clear on the deposit asked.

Also, I checked your search results: good idea however, that is only pulling up results within the area you are in, what city are you looking in? 

 

Actually the results, as noted, were for Searchs on "All Locations".  The overall totals may be off as of now since more practitioners have been added.  

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, Njguy2 said:

Actually the results, as noted, were for Searchs on "All Locations".  The overall totals may be off as of now since more practitioners have been added.  

Oh okay, I thought I might of seen more than that when I changed the “all locations” to more specific regions. Might wanna double check.

Btw, not to nit pick but: “practitioners” sounds a bit too professional lol. Advertisers would be a better word. I wouldn’t want people to get confused.

 

[DWnyc]

On 3/13/2024 at 8:20 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

I think pinning providers against one another is a bit toxic habit, something that some believe is acceptable

Unless you’re advocating the abolition of free market economics that makes no sense

[DWnyc]

On 3/15/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

I seen one escort in his ad claim, “I don’t accept pay app payments, the federal government is watching our transactions.” Which is not true.

That’s not the only reason many don’t want to pay deposits to providers but why is this not true?  

Pretty much every disclaimer or terms and conditions for cash sites makes it clear that they can and will share data with the government if requested and that they will proactively report anything they suspect violates their rules which includes transacting in illegal categories.

 

[Trick]

On 3/13/2024 at 11:41 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

 

Plus, I’m not too sure about you anyway. You said in another thread, that you seen a provider and afterwards forgot your wallet in the car. You sound sketchy AF. 
 

 

You can ask this provider if I reneged on my payment for him.

https://rentmen.eu/Dilancristian

It happened with him too so ask him as well.  I asked him to accompany me to my car as I went to get his donation.

https://rentmen.eu/JakeDaddy

 

Honest people forget things, you know!

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

12 hours ago, Trick said:

 

You can ask this provider if I reneged on my payment for him.

 

But why would I care to do that though? Unless you were booking me specifically and I needed a reference in lieu of a deposit, I’m not trying to prove a point. And if it happened twice, is it a mistake? Once again, not interested in who you booked in the past. Doesn’t change much about your demeanor towards me and the topic of this thread. 

I’m still going to ask/receive deposits anytime I have to spend my own money upfront. Whoever doesn’t, that’s their personal choice.

 

[Trick]

3 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

But why would I care to do that though?

 

You looked up an old post of mine from two years ago so I thought you cared.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

7 hours ago, Trick said:

You looked up an old post of mine from two years ago so I thought you cared.

I didn’t look it up, someone recently made another response to it…And I just happened to see it in the feed. So it was just in reference. 
 

That said, another reason I moved to a deposit only model is because I got so tired of potential (and even 2nd time returning) clients talking about “we never made an appointment, I don’t owe you anything blah blah blah”. But you texted me and told me you were coming to town, and that you were going to be happy to meet up/meet up again, and would text me this week?

I been in the biz too long to be playing those games. I dealt with that a lot in Florida and Arizona when I lived in both for periods of time, especially during the times I relied on appointments to show the most. 

These days, I don’t have time or energy to be arguing with clients and 2nd guessing whether or not they booked an appointment. Don’t do deposits? No booking/No conversation. Didn’t waste any time or thought expecting something. Anyone who is put off, is 50/50 chance if not going thru with it anyway, and unfortunately with so many options in some cities…it’s anybody’s guess.

Like I said, only ones who get to meet without deposits are people I’m meeting on non business or “introducing” myself off the main escort sites (though I stopped meeting A4A clients without deposits)

Even if I meet guys outside of the biz, they have to be transparent and not appear they’re trying to conceal something (face/dating status/phone number.) Because more often than not, timewaster.

Edited March 19 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jay_lucas]

On 3/14/2024 at 8:06 PM, MCR said:

I don't suppose that people flaking might be that your pics look like you're older than 30?

 

Personally, I don't like deposits. Have had people not show up after giving one. 

Well, you’re entitled to your opinion but please be respectful. I am 30 and I’m a furry man and guys my page tend to not be hairy.  A lot of my clients say u look better than my pictures in person. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

6 hours ago, Jay_lucas said:

Well, you’re entitled to your opinion but please be respectful. I am 30 and I’m a furry man and guys my page tend to not be hairy.  A lot of my clients say u look better than my pictures in person. 

Yeah I find it hot to come across a sexy otter regardless of age, hairy usually equates to often horny lol 😛 

[DWnyc]

On 3/19/2024 at 1:32 AM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

“we never made an appointment, I don’t owe you anything blah blah blah”. But you texted me and told me you were coming to town, and that you were going to be happy to meet up/meet up again, and would text me this week?

Even if I did all the above (told you I was coming to town, that I was happy to meet up, would text this week) that doesn’t constitute an appointment.

 

 

[+ nycman]

17 hours ago, Jay_lucas said:

Well, you’re entitled to your opinion but please be respectful. I am 30 and I’m a furry man and guys my page tend to not be hairy.  A lot of my clients say u look better than my pictures in person. 

Gentlemen, take note.

This is how a man responds to someone who’s being a cun-t

Bravo, Little bro.

[Jay_lucas]

16 minutes ago, nycman said:

Gentlemen, take note.

This is how a man responds to someone who’s being a cun-t

Bravo, Little bro.

Thanks, babe I appreciate it. 
RentmenTwitter

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 3/20/2024 at 6:34 AM, DWnyc said:

Even if I did all the above (told you I was coming to town, that I was happy to meet up, would text this week) that doesn’t constitute an appointment.

 

 

Then what the fuck does it constitute, a lie?

It doesn’t always have to be down to a date and time to be considered a booking. If I’m supposed to treat clients like all their booking requests are tentative, I wouldn’t be able to plan trips, tours and other things necessary to make appointment’s happen.

That said, I’m more aware of it now than before because: that’s why I don’t consider bookings booked, without a deposit..I had that happen today. Was supposed to have a 7 p.m. booking that the guy said he wanted: ghosted. Lucky for me, he never sent the deposit so I didn’t make any concessions 🤷🏾‍♂️ 

 

[+ APPLE1]

@Jay_lucasTake at least some mollification from the 'above 30' line. Reading that was the motivator for me to look at your profile and see if you were close! And I am sure I am not the only one who took more interest after reading that.

[DWnyc]

4 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Then what the fuck does it constitute, a lie?

No - it just doesn’t constitute an appointment