Provider stealing time

[gck333]

I don't know if this happens to me or just my location (Orange county, CA) but almost all (20+) providers I hired on rentmasseur seem to be unable to keep the clock for the full 60 min time as promised. They usually ask me to flip over after 20 min and get done when we are only 30 or 40 minutes into the session.

Is this normal or should I set the expectation of just 40 mins? I talked to one provider about it and he said something like "Oh I did not pay attention to the clock" and did gave me a 1-hour experience next time but later switched back to the 40m timer.

[Jamie21]

My clients get the full time they paid for. You’re probably not hiring masseurs because they’re not interested in giving you a great massage. 

[+ APPLE1]

Did you leave a review saying you booked 60 mins, but only got 40?

I think nearly everyone can be guilty of taking shortcuts in life. I think most people stop those shortcuts when someone points them out, and we are motivated to stop.

I can also understand that providers may have a system where a 60 min massage equals X min of table time. However, I feel the best providers will spell that out in the ad if that's the case, so there is no confusion or unmet expectations.

Edited January 29 by APPLE1

[SouthOfTheBorder]

2 hours ago, gck333 said:

Is this normal or should I set the expectation of just 40 mins?

if this is a recurring issue for you - just make it clear you expect a full 60 minutes when booking & ask for acknowledgment you will get that time….before you finalize the time, place & payment.

 

[Muscleking]

Usually when I book a massage I like to schedule it in advance so for example I’ll schedule it for 1pm and I’ll arrive on time so that I know if the massage ends before 2 i didn’t get my full hour… I find that the few times that I booked last minute I didn’t get my full time maybe the masseur had other appts and just tried to fit me in or whatever so now moving forward I always schedule my appts and arrive on time. So I get my full time. 

[viewing ownly]

Are you showering afterward, or possibly before and after? Are you arriving early? These factors come into play with the time. I've learned a valuable life's lesson by killing time if I'm early, as he's not expecting me until the agreed upon time. If I'm traveling a long distance (which is always) and I get to the area early, I'd send a text that I'm near their place. If it's ignored (and it's not a sorry ghosting situation), I make sure to be on time. Occasionally, they'll respond with "I'm free right now. See you when you get here". HOWEVER, it's completely reasonable to "cut me loose" if it's 10 'till when I'm arriving at 10 'till. The arrangement is for 60 minutes "of their time", not 60 minutes of being massaged. Ideally, massage makes up the vast bulk of it.

[maninsoma]

I'm not too much of a stickler on time as long as the overall experience was good.  To be blunt, I'd rather be shorted 10 minutes by someone who gave a good or even just decent massage who then connected with me enough to get me off versus someone who gave a technically better massage who then couldn't hide his disinterest in me while performing a perfunctory hand job at the end of the full-length session.  If I really just want a good technical massage and want the entire hour or 90 minutes of that, then I carefully select a masseur who clearly has massage skills.  A lot of guys on rentmasseur are fairly unskilled at massage so clients are rolling the dice there in terms of the guy being trained unless he specifically indicates said training in his ad.

Another blunt observation (not saying this is you):  Some clients here seem to want a full escort experience with a guy they hire as a masseur at a rate higher than an average massage but lower than most escorts.  If you end up moving into more than manual happy ending territory 20 minutes into the massage it's probably an indication that the guy is actually offering "escort lite" sessions, by which I mean he'll try to get you off quickly and get you out in 30-45 minutes at 50-75% of an escort rate.

[Jason Dutch]

Most of the time I find the clients aren't out the door until 20 minutes beyond the scheduled time... I try not to "watch the clock" anyhow, but mentally I plan for a little spillover. It can be tricky timing a client's orgasm, too - not always up to me if you end up busting sooner! But in the case he busts with time to spare, I always remain attentive and available for the remainder of the hour, for cuddling/aftercare/conversation or even a bit more play if they're game. Some clients take advantage of this, and others are ready to hit the road right away after they nut.

[gck333]

I never leave reviews about time being cut short coz this is happening to almost 80% of providers. I was on time usually, and the time I count is between I walk into the studio and walk out. I thought this might be a common issue but from the replies it looks like this only happens to me. Maybe it is because I started the mutual touching part too early, like 15 minutes into the massage.

[Lotus-eater]

I have found that a decent percentage do not provide the full hour (one was rude enough to state on his profile that a client taking a shower at his place will reduce massage time but he was the one who took a shower beforehand and cut my massage short), especially the ones that have little massage ability and are really selling an escort type experience.

[soloyo215]

On 1/29/2024 at 2:51 AM, gck333 said:

I don't know if this happens to me or just my location (Orange county, CA) but almost all (20+) providers I hired on rentmasseur seem to be unable to keep the clock for the full 60 min time as promised. They usually ask me to flip over after 20 min and get done when we are only 30 or 40 minutes into the session.

Is this normal or should I set the expectation of just 40 mins? I talked to one provider about it and he said something like "Oh I did not pay attention to the clock" and did gave me a 1-hour experience next time but later switched back to the 40m timer.

Some do. I let it be and never see them again after that session, reason being that I am naked and they are touching my body, so I don't feel in a good position (no pun intended) to argue or complain. I also give them bad reviews for that. It's a shady practice, and the appropriate time should be provided if agreed upon. The opposite is true too. I've had some providers who are not clock watchers and have given me extra time. And there are some who have given me exactly (sometimes feels like to the second) the expected time. It is a deal breaker if the provider steals time from me, especially if they make the assumption that because I "released" I'm done. The good ones continue and finish the time massaging, and some actually ask if I want to continue massaging.

I honestly think that those providers who try to cut the time short with clients are not great enterpreneurs. That affects their reputation and business, and even if they do it because they don't like a particular client, they get a bad reputation for it, even those who have a steady clientele should be respectful of their clients' allocated time.

[TT3690]

In my experience, exactly an hour is relatively rare and it is often a bit shorter. But while 50 minutes is ok, 15 minutes is way too rushed.

[Jamie21]

On 1/29/2024 at 3:34 PM, Jason Dutch said:

It can be tricky timing a client's orgasm, too - not always up to me if you end up busting sooner!

This I can empathise with. I assume all clients want a great massage and to include a climax (of more) usually near the end of the session. Occasionally I’ll get a client who wants to move things along  faster than I anticipated and then once they climax they immediately want to leave. I check if he wants head massage or more massage or cuddles etc but if he’s of a mind to go, he goes. I’m still charging for the time booked. 

However more common is the guy who struggles to climax. I’m desperately trying all sorts of things to get him off but he’s just not getting there and the clock is ticking up to and past his scheduled finish time. I don’t mind going a bit over if he’s close but if I have a hard stop then sometimes I have to say to him that we’re out of time.
 

 

[marylander1940]

On 1/29/2024 at 1:51 AM, gck333 said:

I don't know if this happens to me or just my location (Orange county, CA) but almost all (20+) providers I hired on rentmasseur seem to be unable to keep the clock for the full 60 min time as promised. They usually ask me to flip over after 20 min and get done when we are only 30 or 40 minutes into the session.

Is this normal or should I set the expectation of just 40 mins? I talked to one provider about it and he said something like "Oh I did not pay attention to the clock" and did gave me a 1-hour experience next time but later switched back to the 40m timer.

If you see something say something. You should tell them time is not up yet. Maybe some of them think after the HE everything is over.

[Simon Suraci]

I go the full time. By that I mean once the client gets on the table and I start working, to the time their massage is finished. NOT:

Client going to the bathroom

showering

chit chat

paying

laying on the table for a while after, mind completely blown, and in quiet recovery

getting dressed

etc.

I plan buffers for these activities and to clean thoroughly before the next client arrives, and usually with enough to give myself at least a few minutes to respond to inquiries. For me, that’s at least 30 mins between one client ending their scheduled time and the next client’s scheduled time begins. The buffer allows me to go slightly over if necessary or offer the client a shower, and it gives me wiggle room to take a client early should they arrive more than 5-10 mins before their scheduled start time, or still get my current client done should they arrive late.

Clients showing up late I short on time, ending at their scheduled end time so as to respect the next client’s start time. When the next client is scheduled later, I accommodate the late client by starting and ending late. It’s all a matter of circumstances.

It boggles my mind why more of my peers don’t structure their appointments with reasonable buffers. It’s very important to me that each client gets their full time. It’s important to me when I get massages myself.

Honestly I have a hard time finishing my routine any faster than the scheduled time. Sometimes it ends right on time, often it runs over. But then again I am actually providing a real, skilled massage. A lot of guys in the industry are opportunistic rub-and-tug types with short term goal$.

I want my clients to return. I give them their full time, every time. Masseurs that don’t aren’t serious about their work, and they’re not working to develop long term clients. Skip the amateurs and unserious, pervasive though they may be. Go with experienced, consummate professionals.

Places like here are the best ways to find the good guys!

When a masseur massively shorts your time, please write a review stating the facts, both here and on whatever platform you found them on, like RentMasseur. It helps identify the bad actors and lead other clients toward the pros. Also, it motivates the bad guys to either a) improve their practice or b) exit the biz.

[ICTJOCK]

If the understanding is the service is for an hour,  that should be your expectations.    Because of the issue,  I'd voice this prior to the service being performed.... you expect a 60 minute massage for the amount paid.

[NyGold]

If it’s a recurring issue - with due respect are you perhaps allowing the bad ones to take advantage of you not protesting / maybe that’s being communicated in your time with them.

I’ve had both ends of this causing stress - either feeling shortchanged on time or the provider wanting to keep going (even if not wanting to charge for that) and I’m in a hurry or not really that into it and ready to quit.

 

[+ DrownedBoy]

I had a young provider insist on ordering his Uber while the session was going on, so that he could walk out the moment the session ended.

 

I'm not hiring him again...

[soloyo215]

20 hours ago, NyGold said:

...are you perhaps allowing the bad ones to take advantage of you not protesting / maybe that’s being communicated in your time with them.

 

Maybe before or after the session, but during a session I don't think is useful to voice a complain, as it can create more stress instead of relaxation. But yes, though I personally don't let the masseur know after a session cut short, I give a less than stellar review and never use him again. After all, it's supposed to be a relaxing experience.

[JamesB]

For me providers that cut you short are an automatic no repeat. A deal was made for services and time in exchange for payment. I do understand that it is difficult for a provider to determine how long it will take for a client to release, however the session does not have to end right after the ending has been achieved.