marylander1940 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) It's an app that monitors your online activity and sends "blurry" images of suspicious sites to your trusted "victory partner" in the fight against porno! Who would you pick to be your partner? If you google "covenant eyes" and click on news you'll see why all of the sudden we normal folks are aware of the existence of this app. Screen Accountability™ | Covenant Eyes WWW.COVENANTEYES.COM What people do online impacts their lives offline. Protect yourself and family with Covenant Eyes Screen Accountability. Edited November 7, 2023 by marylander1940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maninsoma Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Why would I want to use such software? I'm not trying to model my life on some right-wing "Christian" notion of what's right and wrong. + Pensant, + FrankR, soloyo215 and 4 others 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, maninsoma said: Why would I want to use such software? I'm not trying to model my life on some right-wing "Christian" notion of what's right and wrong. I suppose it could be helpful to those who may have an addiction to pornography, though therapy is likely more effective than guilt. pubic_assistance, soloyo215, marylander1940 and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike carey Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 The idea of this sort of app is that addiction to porn is a moral failing rather than a psychological condition (or a source of innocent enjoyment and not a real 'problem' at all). Guilt places the onus on the addicted person to overcome their own addiction, with the subtext that if they can't they are 'intrinsically disordered' or some such. The apps and the assumptions on which their developers rely carry a not insignificant risk that the person seeking (or being persuaded to seek) a 'cure' will, if they fail see only one other possible solution to their 'disordered' state. soloyo215, pubic_assistance, + Charlie and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeMaybeNot Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 The assumption is actually that porn is evil and anyone who accesses it is addicted. This app would help keep people accountable. The actual term is accountability partner. marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsc Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) There are all manner of addictions. Some may only be and may remain minor or occasional indulgences while others may lead to excessive or even obsessive behaviors. If an addiction begins to interfere with daily functioning - such as sleep deprivation, failings in work or family responsibilities or obligations, financial well-being - it's time to seek help. There should be no religious test or standard for mental wellness. But an addiction that becomes debilitating to any degree should be evaluated by competent mental health professionals, regardless of the nature of the addiction, in an attempt to control the effects of the addicted behavior. However, I have known several people who claimed to have been "cured" of a drug or alcohol addiction through a faith-based program or approach leading to a change in their behavior. I congratulate them for their success and give thanks with them, but do not disparage their faith in a supernatural agency. I don't believe in such a thing myself and would assert that the strength to overcome their addiction was already and only within them. But religious beliefs can generate strong emotions in a person and those emotions may move them in ways they couldn't move themselves without it; that's what emotions do - they move us. It's a matter of finding the right stimulus to elicit the desired response. And if faith produces the "cure," a good end is reached. Halleluiah? Edited November 7, 2023 by wsc grammer marylander1940, pubic_assistance and + sync 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, maninsoma said: Why would I want to use such software? I'm not trying to model my life on some right-wing "Christian" notion of what's right and wrong. I discovered my Christian pastor watching porn. It wasn't a big deal. He taught me how to play beer pong (I never learned it in college). These things are compatible with our Christian faith. There are many more religions that frown on viewing sex (Muslim, Islam) . Back to the original post, I think I would want the app if I was addicted to anything on my smart telephone that was taking too much of my time and preventing me from living a full life with connections to real humans, which can happen with pornography or sudoku. Edited November 7, 2023 by Vegas_Millennial Jamie21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, CuriousByNature said: I suppose it could be helpful to those who may have an addiction to pornography, though therapy is likely more effective than guilt. Psychotherapy takes a LONG time to be effective. This might be meant as a tool to keep things from getting out of hand RIGHT NOW. Seems like a good resource if porn becomes a barrier to leading a productive day. I had a neighbor years ago who rarely left his apartment. When he died, they cleared out thousands of porn magazines and VHS tapes. Must have spent all day / every day whacking-off. + Vegas_Millennial, wsc and CuriousByNature 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 The new Speaker of the House uses the Covenant software - his accountability partner is his son. Interesting, but not surprising, that he should need it, apparent ex-gay that he is. + Vegas_Millennial, MichaelV and pubic_assistance 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, mike carey said: The idea of this sort of app is that addiction to porn is a moral failing rather than a psychological condition (or a source of innocent enjoyment and not a real 'problem' at all). Guilt places the onus on the addicted person to overcome their own addiction, with the subtext that if they can't they are 'intrinsically disordered' or some such. The apps and the assumptions on which their developers rely carry a not insignificant risk that the person seeking (or being persuaded to seek) a 'cure' will, if they fail see only one other possible solution to their 'disordered' state. You're awesome @mike carey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rudynate said: The new Speaker of the House uses the Covenant software - his accountability partner is his son. Interesting, but not surprising, that he should need it, apparent ex-gay that he is. This sort of excessive micromanagement of a teenager is just asking for mental illness. Very sad. Won't be shocked if he chops his father to pieces some day and makes a soup of him. MichaelV, + robear and thomas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeezifonly Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 It’s like “Covenant Marriage” and “Purity Rings” Puritanical moralizing, twisted beyond fuck-all. MJ’s Accountability Partner is Jack Johnson. The porn writes itself. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsc Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said: Psychotherapy takes a LONG time to be effective. This might be meant as a tool to keep things from getting out of hand RIGHT NOW. Seems like a good resource if porn becomes a barrier to leading a productive day. I would have thought that the aim of a program to end a porn addiction would be precisely to get it out of hand.😉 mike carey, pubic_assistance, maninsoma and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) I think this app has nothing to do with addiction and more with being judgmental of those of us who watch porno. One more time, google "covenant eyes", click news and you'll see why we're talking about it. What's next? An app that doesn't allow you to go into an elevator with someone attractive? Edited November 7, 2023 by marylander1940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloyo215 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Personally I don't believe in porn or sex "addiction". It's all nonsense to me. I also agree that the app seems to have some kind of Christian flare to it, which is quite offputting to me. Even if I believed in the so called "sex addiction", doesn't look like that app is something that will create any long-term benefit. I wouldn't pick an app to manage that part of my life (if I evern feel like I need any kind of support agains something I like too much, I guess), leave alone picking a "victory partner". Chances are, I might end up f***ing the hell out of him. Hate the app, hate its premise, hate its approach. pubic_assistance and marylander1940 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, soloyo215 said: Personally I don't believe in porn or sex "addiction". It's all nonsense to me. Are you an anti-vaxer too ? soloyo215 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 14 hours ago, maninsoma said: Why would I want to use such software? I'm not trying to model my life on some right-wing "Christian" notion of what's right and wrong. If you're an ex-gay like Speaker Mike Johnson, you might find a need for it. + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 14 hours ago, Rudynate said: If you're an ex-gay like Speaker Mike Johnson, you might find a need for it. Is he an ex-gay ? Or were you just being sacrasitc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said: Is he an ex-gay ? Or were you just being sacrasitc ? He's been deeply involved with Exodus International and he's a big proponent of conversion therapy. His wife is a psychotherapist who does Christian psychotherapy and equates man-on-man sex with bestiality. As soon as the public eye fell on her because of her husband's rise, she took down her website. It isn't known for sure that he's an ex-gay, but quite a few people associated with Exodus International have later come out as gay. It is common for someone as energetically homophobic as he is to turn out to be a closeted gay. So, I'm not being sarcastic - someone who hates gays as passionately as he does may very well be gay himself. + Just Sayin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Rudynate said: It is common for someone as energetically homophobic as he is to turn out to be a closeted gay. Oh..don't I know it! I've met plenty of those myself over the years. Homophobes always end up caught sucking cock at the road-side-rest-stop. Edited November 8, 2023 by pubic_assistance spelling wsc, Jamie21 and Shoedog112 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloKyle Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I'm happy to be addicted to porn rather than drugs, alcohol, gambling, etc. + JEC, caramelsub, dbar123 and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 19 hours ago, soloyo215 said: Personally I don't believe in porn or sex "addiction". It's all nonsense to me. I also agree that the app seems to have some kind of Christian flare to it, which is quite offputting to me. Even if I believed in the so called "sex addiction", doesn't look like that app is something that will create any long-term benefit. I wouldn't pick an app to manage that part of my life (if I evern feel like I need any kind of support agains something I like too much, I guess), leave alone picking a "victory partner". Chances are, I might end up f***ing the hell out of him. Hate the app, hate its premise, hate its approach. Agreed! Without a doubt the whole purpose of this app is shaming those who watch porno... myself included! I'm sure most users have another secret iPhone, use hideme, etc. soloyo215 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloKyle Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 19 hours ago, soloyo215 said: Personally I don't believe in porn or sex "addiction". It's all nonsense to me. Actually you are right. A counselor told me it's a compulsion rather an addiction. soloyo215 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ sync Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Rudynate said: He's been deeply involved with Exodus International and he's a big proponent of conversion therapy. His wife is a psychotherapist who does Christian psychotherapy and equates man-on-man sex with bestiality. As soon as the public eye fell on her because of her husband's rise, she took down her website. It isn't known for sure that he's an ex-gay, but quite a few people associated with Exodus International have later come out as gay. It is common for someone as energetically homophobic as he is to turn out to be a closeted gay. So, I'm not being sarcastic - someone who hates gays as passionately as he does may very well be gay himself. My sympathy/concern is for their teenaged accountability-partner son. I acknowledge that I'm not beyond over-reacting but placing that kind of burden upon a child has me questioning whether these people should have custody of children. marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloyo215 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 22 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Are you an anti-vaxer too ? LOL! No. Actually, I just got my COVID booster today, and my employer requires having the flu shot, so I got it too. I just do not believe in the so-called sex addiction. There are conditions like OCD that resemble behaviors that some addicts display, but it is a completely different thing. And, BTW, in no way, shape or form am I discouraging anyone who think or feels that is a sex addict to take care of themselves in any way that they see it fit for their situation. I'm not preaching nor trying to convince anyone about my views, which are only that, my views, In fact, have a few friends who consider themselves sex addicts, some of them go to therapy and (I believe) 12-step programs for sex addiction, and one of them I even consider part of my family of choice. I do not have a black-and-white mentality about it. I just have my own beliefs. 4 hours ago, BuffaloKyle said: Actually you are right. A counselor told me it's a compulsion rather an addiction. Exactly. And there are differences between those two. Treatment for OCD is different than treatment for addictions. marylander1940 and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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