Should gay porno embrace body positivity?

[marylander1940]

OP note: body image issues are not unique to gay men but certainly toxic in our community!

Considering so many posters who have shared with us how many men they attract despite not looking like your average pornstar.... should porno portray folks of all sizes and body types?

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[+ BenjaminNicholas]

It's not that they haven't tried.  It's just that it probably hasn't sold as well.

Guys don't watch porn to see themselves.  They watch it to watch the unattainable.  The fantasy.  

That's what porn is:  A highly unrealistic, hyper-visual, fantasy-driven medium.

This sort of marginalized porn has usually been shoehorned into a fetish category and as much as I'd like to see society evolve, it's not realistic to think it's going to change anytime soon.  

The gay community is mega progressive in regards to our rights, but we heavily inner-discriminate if someone doesn't fit within a classic frame of beauty.

[Guest MikeThomas]

No

[+ azdr0710]

heartless and mean, but remind me not to invest in the studio that starts doing that......

Edited September 12, 2023 by azdr0710

[+ Trebor]

Not that I’m all that heavy or unattractive but I certainly wouldn’t watch…or hire, for that matter…someone who looks like me😉

[marylander1940]

9 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

It's not that they haven't tried.  It's just that it probably hasn't sold as well.

Guys don't watch porn to see themselves.  They watch it to watch the unattainable.  The fantasy.  

That's what porn is:  A highly unrealistic, hyper-visual, fantasy-driven medium.

This sort of marginalized porn has usually been shoehorned into a fetish category and as much as I'd like to see society evolve, it's not realistic to think it's going to change anytime soon.  

The gay community is mega progressive in regards to our rights, but we heavily inner-discriminate if someone doesn't fit within a classic frame of beauty.

Agreed!

but at least porno now is way more diverse than in the 80's and 90's. Now we see not only jocks but also otters, daddies, cubs, biracial, bearded, etc. and PLENTY of tattooed guys.

[marylander1940]

Magazines for straight men and women have relatively embraced body positivity. 

 

 

Please report this video if it's too political for the forum. I don't think that's the case even though the commentator is a well known conservative. 

 

[Guest MikeThomas]

Successfully resisted the urge to get political.  Phew!

[BuffaloKyle]

Since a good majority of porn now isn't studio made anyway you can find literally anything you want out there. I enjoy watching a bit of everything.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

I prefer more average and diverse-looking guys in porn. Similar to what advertising and porn have done to women, gay men constantly pressure each other to appear like the statue of David (or better). It's very unhealthy for us, individually and collectively. 

[pubic_assistance]

On 9/12/2023 at 12:14 PM, marylander1940 said:

....should porno portray folks of all sizes and body types?

Nobody's watching that.

 

[+ purplekow]

Sexually, most men are visual.  While it would be nice if suddenly senior, fat, bald men with an off beat sense of humor and a quick mind were suddenly the new big cock, I am not waiting for my turn at the desirability brass ring.  If you want to see the male equivalent of the magazine covers above which promote body positivity, you can find that.  But don't expect them to be big sellers no matter how sexy the movie turns out to be. Sure they may be an initial breakthrough movie that catches the eye of everyone, which has reached the tipping point for some reason, but beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but like porno, I cannot define beauty (though it has a lot to do with symmetry of facial features) but I know it when I see it.   

[soloyo215]

I didn't know I was in the minority in this. I do watch fat, out-of-shape men as much as others. If I like the guy and/or what they do, I watch it. Can't care less about they looking like or unlike me.

Maybe the way I approach my sexuality is not all about physical attributes. And I refuse to believe that I am alone in this.

[+ purplekow]

1 hour ago, soloyo215 said:

I didn't know I was in the minority in this. I do watch fat, out-of-shape men as much as others. If I like the guy and/or what they do, I watch it. Can't care less about they looking like or unlike me.

Maybe the way I approach my sexuality is not all about physical attributes. And I refuse to believe that I am alone in this.

Not alone, just in the distinct minority.  

[+ purplekow]

Sexually, most men are visual.  While it would be nice if suddenly senior, fat, bald men with an off beat sense of humor and a quick mind were suddenly the new big cock, I am not waiting for my turn at the desirability brass ring.  If you want to see the male equivalent of the magazine covers above which promote body positivity, you can find that.  But don't expect them to be big sellers no matter how sexy the movie turns out to be. Sure they may be an initial breakthrough movie that catches the eye of everyone, which has reached the tipping point for some reason, but beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but like porno, I cannot define beauty (though it has a lot to do with symmetry of facial features) but I know it when I see it.   

[+ purplekow]

4 hours ago, purplekow said:

Sexually, most men are visual.  While it would be nice if suddenly senior, fat, bald men with an off beat sense of humor and a quick mind were suddenly the new big cock, I am not waiting for my turn at the desirability brass ring.  If you want to see the male equivalent of the magazine covers above which promote body positivity, you can find that.  But don't expect them to be big sellers no matter how sexy the movie turns out to be. Sure they may be an initial breakthrough movie that catches the eye of everyone, which has reached the tipping point for some reason, but beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but like porno, I cannot define beauty (though it has a lot to do with symmetry of facial features) but I know it when I see it.   

I do know this much about these kind of films,  if there was a significant dollar to be made from having body positivity , there would be a bunch of fat, bald, old, differently abled, facially deformed guys collecting every dollar they could from making them

Edited September 14, 2023 by purplekow

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

20 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Agreed!

but at least porno now is way more diverse than in the 80's and 90's. Now we see not only jocks but also otters, daddies, cubs, biracial, bearded, etc. and PLENTY of tattooed guys.

Maybe that's why I find myself mostly watching "vintage" pornography?  I find those men very attractive

[SometimesBi]

On 9/12/2023 at 9:14 AM, marylander1940 said:

should porno portray folks of all sizes and body types?

That is already available on sites like xtube, xvideos, etc. Real guys, having real sex. I find it is even better/hotter than the staged stuff from the industry. 

[TorontoDrew]

My tastes have changed over time.  I've gotten bored of the hairless, perfect bodies of studio porn and have found myself gravitating towards more amateur stuff.  I think my changes in providers may head in a similar direction.

[pubic_assistance]

Porn is fantasy.

I don't fantasize about the fat neighbor. He fantasizes about me.

 

[GTMike]

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[pubic_assistance]

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[marylander1940]

On 9/15/2023 at 9:06 PM, pubic_assistance said:

Porn is fantasy.

I don't fantasize about the fat neighbor. He fantasizes about me.

 

more like he fantasizes about one of your sons although some might fantasize about a DILF like you!

Edited September 17, 2023 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

On 9/13/2023 at 6:08 PM, Vegas_Millennial said:

Maybe that's why I find myself mostly watching "vintage" pornography?  I find those men very attractive

 

On 9/15/2023 at 10:33 AM, SometimesBi said:

That is already available on sites like xtube, xvideos, etc. Real guys, having real sex. I find it is even better/hotter than the staged stuff from the industry. 

Do you guys see your body type represented in amateur films? Do those videos "inspire" you?

[+ robear]

Porn gets made that sells to somebody, it's purely market driven, good intentions aren't gonna bring in paying subscribers. 

That said, there's something out there for everybody, especially in this age of post-studio era, do-it-yourself porn. I personally have always found conventional commercial porn, and the men hired to perform in it, deadly dull, of no real interest at all. I certainly have never paid for it. There's plenty of porn out there featuring performers similar to every one of the models shown at the top of this thread. (With the exception, perhaps, of the model whose features suggest Down Syndrome.) The markets for "niche" performers are obviously smaller, but they certainly exist.

Somebody just revived the venerable "Bear Magazine" brand, which was seen as game-changing in the late-80s. It was the first time a commercial producer really stepped outside the presumed tastes of gay porn customers of the time, and was met with runaway success.