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Should gay porno embrace body positivity?


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OP note: body image issues are not unique to gay men but certainly toxic in our community!

Considering so many posters who have shared with us how many men they attract despite not looking like your average pornstar.... should porno portray folks of all sizes and body types?

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It's not that they haven't tried.  It's just that it probably hasn't sold as well.

Guys don't watch porn to see themselves.  They watch it to watch the unattainable.  The fantasy.  

That's what porn is:  A highly unrealistic, hyper-visual, fantasy-driven medium.

This sort of marginalized porn has usually been shoehorned into a fetish category and as much as I'd like to see society evolve, it's not realistic to think it's going to change anytime soon.  

The gay community is mega progressive in regards to our rights, but we heavily inner-discriminate if someone doesn't fit within a classic frame of beauty.

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9 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

It's not that they haven't tried.  It's just that it probably hasn't sold as well.

Guys don't watch porn to see themselves.  They watch it to watch the unattainable.  The fantasy.  

That's what porn is:  A highly unrealistic, hyper-visual, fantasy-driven medium.

This sort of marginalized porn has usually been shoehorned into a fetish category and as much as I'd like to see society evolve, it's not realistic to think it's going to change anytime soon.  

The gay community is mega progressive in regards to our rights, but we heavily inner-discriminate if someone doesn't fit within a classic frame of beauty.

Agreed!

but at least porno now is way more diverse than in the 80's and 90's. Now we see not only jocks but also otters, daddies, cubs, biracial, bearded, etc. and PLENTY of tattooed guys.

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Sexually, most men are visual.  While it would be nice if suddenly senior, fat, bald men with an off beat sense of humor and a quick mind were suddenly the new big cock, I am not waiting for my turn at the desirability brass ring.  If you want to see the male equivalent of the magazine covers above which promote body positivity, you can find that.  But don't expect them to be big sellers no matter how sexy the movie turns out to be. Sure they may be an initial breakthrough movie that catches the eye of everyone, which has reached the tipping point for some reason, but beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but like porno, I cannot define beauty (though it has a lot to do with symmetry of facial features) but I know it when I see it.   

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I didn't know I was in the minority in this. I do watch fat, out-of-shape men as much as others. If I like the guy and/or what they do, I watch it. Can't care less about they looking like or unlike me.

Maybe the way I approach my sexuality is not all about physical attributes. And I refuse to believe that I am alone in this.

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1 hour ago, soloyo215 said:

I didn't know I was in the minority in this. I do watch fat, out-of-shape men as much as others. If I like the guy and/or what they do, I watch it. Can't care less about they looking like or unlike me.

Maybe the way I approach my sexuality is not all about physical attributes. And I refuse to believe that I am alone in this.

Not alone, just in the distinct minority.  

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Sexually, most men are visual.  While it would be nice if suddenly senior, fat, bald men with an off beat sense of humor and a quick mind were suddenly the new big cock, I am not waiting for my turn at the desirability brass ring.  If you want to see the male equivalent of the magazine covers above which promote body positivity, you can find that.  But don't expect them to be big sellers no matter how sexy the movie turns out to be. Sure they may be an initial breakthrough movie that catches the eye of everyone, which has reached the tipping point for some reason, but beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but like porno, I cannot define beauty (though it has a lot to do with symmetry of facial features) but I know it when I see it.   

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4 hours ago, purplekow said:

Sexually, most men are visual.  While it would be nice if suddenly senior, fat, bald men with an off beat sense of humor and a quick mind were suddenly the new big cock, I am not waiting for my turn at the desirability brass ring.  If you want to see the male equivalent of the magazine covers above which promote body positivity, you can find that.  But don't expect them to be big sellers no matter how sexy the movie turns out to be. Sure they may be an initial breakthrough movie that catches the eye of everyone, which has reached the tipping point for some reason, but beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but like porno, I cannot define beauty (though it has a lot to do with symmetry of facial features) but I know it when I see it.   

I do know this much about these kind of films,  if there was a significant dollar to be made from having body positivity , there would be a bunch of fat, bald, old, differently abled, facially deformed guys collecting every dollar they could from making them

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20 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Agreed!

but at least porno now is way more diverse than in the 80's and 90's. Now we see not only jocks but also otters, daddies, cubs, biracial, bearded, etc. and PLENTY of tattooed guys.

Maybe that's why I find myself mostly watching "vintage" pornography?  I find those men very attractive

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Yes, I think there is plenty of room for body positivity and representation in gay porn. The content doesn’t need to appeal to a majority to be successful. There’s a market for just about everything. Good porn will sell.

I don’t watch as much porn as I used to, but when I do, I enjoy relatively healthy looking everyday people. By that I don’t mean morbidly obese bodies which has its own fetish category online, but people without abs, people who don’t look perfectly symmetrical, a variety of different dick sizes…hairy, smooth, tattoos, no tattoos, all ethnicities, and different ages.

Basically I like the guy next door you find somewhat attractive until he is naked on his knees sucking cock, and then he’s really appealing. Maybe for me it’s the relatively attainable that makes it so much more plausible, and therefore more real and more arousing because subconsciously I am thinking “This could actually happen”.

Then again, I watch the conventionally attractive gay porn actors too because that stuff is so widely available. I also enjoy fantasizing about the unattainable, but it gets boring. I access the mainstream curated stuff because it’s so quick and easy to find without much thought.

Given the choice in my better moments of more intentional consumption, I prefer well made non-studio porn with performers who don’t necessarily make the cut of the studios’ narrow, aspirational, fantasy body look standards.

Amateur stuff and fan sites appeal to me because the content is more focused on the performers doing what they personally love, and working with others they enjoy. Chemistry and authenticity is way hotter to me than a chiseled feature or a well proportioned body part.

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On 9/13/2023 at 6:08 PM, Vegas_Millennial said:

Maybe that's why I find myself mostly watching "vintage" pornography?  I find those men very attractive

 

On 9/15/2023 at 10:33 AM, SometimesBi said:

That is already available on sites like xtube, xvideos, etc. Real guys, having real sex. I find it is even better/hotter than the staged stuff from the industry. 

Do you guys see your body type represented in amateur films? Do those videos "inspire" you?

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