Rates on the Rise??

[Rod Hagen]

Every unit in my 10-unit apartment building, vacated in the last 10 years, so every unit but mine and one other, now has in-unit washers and dryers AND, dammit, dishwashers, even though it's an inexpensive, rent-stabilized, building.  My landlord tells me that without those amenities people (by which he means young people, because that's who he rents units to) wouldn't rent his unit.  I extrapolated my personal observations into fact.  So sue me. :-)

And, speaking of units, whenever we discuss what male escorts charge, don't forget that female escorts charge MUCH more.

 

Edit: sorry, didn't realize this was an old (resurrected) thread.  IGNORE ME!

Edited January 6 by Rod Hagen

[+ glutes]

Hourly rate for a divorce attorney in Cali is $300-400/hour.

At least with providers you get literally screwed.

[handiacefailure]

Not sure why escorts are charging so much now.   I guess if they can get it, they may as well charge it.   

Escort rates haven't risen that much overseas though is the funny thing.

I've been quoted $400 to $500 an hour recently by US escorts who aren't even porn stars starting out with no reviews or just a couple.    In Europe $400 can get you a hot, well known escort for 2 hours.   200EU seems to be the going rate.   I was recently in the same city as D'mitery osten and hired him (I've hired him a few times and one of my favorite hires) and his rate is 200EU.   I always hire him for 90 minutes for $300EU (about $340US) and he normally will spend a good two hours with me when you factor in he wants to shower together and just talk about whats going on with his careeer and him leaving Russia for good.   You are lucky to get 50 minutes out of some US escorts   

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

5 hours ago, Rod Hagen said:

... don't forget that female escorts charge MUCH more.

This.  Astoundingly more. 

Even women who aren't 10s can make mid-six figures if they're smart.

As for male escort rates, people often forget that the consensus here isn't setting an industry standard.  It's what it's always been with every iteration of the board:  Conjecture and opinion.

There will always be cheaper options, even if that means traveling 20 hours and visiting a third-world country.

 

Edited January 7 by BenjaminNicholas

[Guest]

I don’t have an historical perspective, but as a client I’m not at all surprised to see rates rising with inflation. Even if rates are rising at a higher rate than inflation, the comments here indicate rates have been flat for some time, which suggests it’s also a correction. Not that I’m thrilled to pay them, but as a provider of other professional services, my rates increase every year for all clients new and old. The only rates that hold are agreed rates for ongoing engagements. These rates hold only because of contractual commitments.

I understand the reluctance to increase rates for regulars, but it’s also important to understand your worth relative to the market, and the magnitude of losses that would result from failing to raise them at regular intervals; the losses increase exponentially over time because it’s difficult to impose a large enough increases to truly catch regulars up to your market rate.

That said, I’m forming a client union to leverage our purchasing power. Who’s in?

[DWnyc]

As often discussed, this is one of the most capitalist market segments. So if providers want to raise rates - nothing to stop them. They can determine over time if it’s working. 

Prices do NOT rise for everything in inflationary times, they can even come down even for luxuries, and prices don’t move consistently. It’s why the wise ones call it a “basket” when calculating inflation.

 

 

[DWnyc]

5 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

There will always be cheaper options, even if that means traveling 20 hours and visiting a third-world country.

Or staying put where you are and letting the market play out. I’ve never seen so much discounting from providers (with me never asking) as I have over the past year. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

11 hours ago, DWnyc said:

Or staying put where you are and letting the market play out. I’ve never seen so much discounting from providers (with me never asking) as I have over the past year. 

Yup. I mentioned earlier that RM are a luxury good. Luxury goods don't sell during economic downturns.

And I don't care what politicians say, this economy is a lot worse than the numbers show. This market is the most laissez-faire of all due to the law, yet good providers are dropping their rates. I bet it's this reason:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/economy/us-household-credit-card-debt/index.html

 

[Guest]

Hmm, I’m not seeing discounts in provider rates, and it seems the majority here are observing an increase. Agree re: luxury goods so there seems to be a disconnect.

[Thelatin]

I’ve never hired for an hour or two, so perhaps my experience is different?  I routinely hire an overnight for 1000.  They refer to it as a break from the BS.  Nice hotel, food, decent company etc. 

I’ve got 4 full days coming up for 3000.  Nice Airbnb, pool, hot tub, dinners etc.

[marylander1940]

On 2/20/2023 at 9:08 PM, Thelatin said:

I pay a grand per visit.  The provider can choose how long to stay and what to offer.  I choose if I contact them again.  Pretty easy system.

 

Do they know that in advance? 

17 minutes ago, Thelatin said:

I’ve never hired for an hour or two, so perhaps my experience is different?  I routinely hire an overnight for 1000.  They refer to it as a break from the BS.  Nice hotel, food, decent company etc. 

I’ve got 4 full days coming up for 3000.  Nice Airbnb, pool, hot tub, dinners etc.

Do you tell them upfront is an overnight? 

[marylander1940]

21 hours ago, handiacefailure said:

Not sure why escorts are charging so much now.   I guess if they can get it, they may as well charge it.   

Escort rates haven't risen that much overseas though is the funny thing.

I've been quoted $400 to $500 an hour recently by US escorts who aren't even porn stars starting out with no reviews or just a couple.    In Europe $400 can get you a hot, well known escort for 2 hours.   200EU seems to be the going rate.   I was recently in the same city as D'mitery osten and hired him (I've hired him a few times and one of my favorite hires) and his rate is 200EU.   I always hire him for 90 minutes for $300EU (about $340US) and he normally will spend a good two hours with me when you factor in he wants to shower together and just talk about whats going on with his careeer and him leaving Russia for good.   You are lucky to get 50 minutes out of some US escorts   

When things are legal they're likely to be cheaper. Canada is also cheaper. 

20 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

This.  Astoundingly more. 

Even women who aren't 10s can make mid-six figures if they're smart.

As for male escort rates, people often forget that the consensus here isn't setting an industry standard.  It's what it's always been with every iteration of the board:  Conjecture and opinion.

There will always be cheaper options, even if that means traveling 20 hours and visiting a third-world country.

 

 

Sir, one more time you: 

There are 3 professions in the world where women usually get paid more than men: modeling, prostitution and porno. 

Edited January 7 by marylander1940

[Thelatin]

19 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Do you tell them upfront is an overnight? 

It typically just morphs into that after a few visits.  Unless they are actually booked up for something late at night, why not stay for breakfast?

[marylander1940]

25 minutes ago, Thelatin said:

It typically just morphs into that after a few visits.  Unless they are actually booked up for something late at night, why not stay for breakfast?

Obviously by then they already know you are a big spender and want to keep you as a regular.

Makes sense!

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

9 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Obviously by then they already know you are a big spender and want to keep you as a regular.

Makes sense!

'Big spender,' eh?

 

[Rod Hagen]

On 1/7/2024 at 1:54 PM, Thelatin said:

I’ve never hired for an hour or two, so perhaps my experience is different?  I routinely hire an overnight for 1000.  They refer to it as a break from the BS.  Nice hotel, food, decent company etc. 

I’ve got 4 full days coming up for 3000.  Nice Airbnb, pool, hot tub, dinners etc.

That's 1999 rates you're paying, what's your secret? :-)

[Thelatin]

3 hours ago, Rod Hagen said:

That's 1999 rates you're paying, what's your secret? 🙂

I think it has to do with just being decent, I don’t demand, always offer to buy dinner, stay in nice places etc.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

On 1/13/2024 at 1:02 PM, Thelatin said:

I think it has to do with just being decent, I don’t demand, always offer to buy dinner, stay in nice places etc.

Perhaps true, but bottom line, nice hotels and dinner don't pay the rent.

You're very lucky if you're paying those low rates for that kind of time.  Congrats.

Edited January 15 by BenjaminNicholas

[Thelatin]

5 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

Perhaps true, but bottom line, nice hotels and dinner don't pay the rent.

True - but realistically most providers aren’t having multiple dates 7 days a week.  And why have 2-3 short dates with perhaps a no show, or a jerk, when I’m a repeat customer and easy to deal with?  1000 bucks is 1/2 the months rent or more if they have roommates.  Seems like good money.

This site is littered with threads of people complaining about how difficult the process can be.  I booked a room and he didn’t show up.  I went to a city and got stood up x amount of times.  Provider got lost.  Client was with family.  Someone insisted on face pics.  Provider was in seedy hotel.  Dog ate my homework.

So they can take a for sure thing.  Or spend the night sorting through all of the messages they complain about.  Maybe they can have lunch with someone for a predate interview.  

[MscleLovr]

On 1/13/2024 at 3:39 PM, Rod Hagen said:

That's 1999 rates you're paying

You may be right. But I also paid those rates in 2000-2009, and I had plenty of good overnight dates with handsome, fit-bodied young men. 
 

4 hours ago, Thelatin said:

I’m a repeat customer and easy to deal…1000 bucks…Seems like good money.

I always felt that was key. Once we’d established we were fully compatible, I’d suggest an all-expenses-paid overseas trip. I’d ask what place/resort or activities interested them. I’d mention it would be luxurious throughout, and get them to say what fee they’d require. I only dated nice guys and I was often pleasantly surprised at how reasonable the fees were. 

[Rod Hagen]

2 hours ago, MscleLovr said:

I only dated nice guys and I was often pleasantly surprised at how reasonable the fees were. 

Replace the word reasonable with the phrase "affordable for you".  Because something is expensive, for you, doesn't make it unreasonable. This may seem like a small quibble, it isn't.

Edited January 15 by Rod Hagen

[Rod Hagen]

Ha, once again a thread about "Rates on the rise" turned into a tutorial on how to sway escorts into accepting less.

Edited January 15 by Rod Hagen

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

6 hours ago, Thelatin said:

True - but realistically most providers aren’t having multiple dates 7 days a week.  And why have 2-3 short dates with perhaps a no show, or a jerk, when I’m a repeat customer and easy to deal with?  1000 bucks is 1/2 the months rent or more if they have roommates.  Seems like good money.

This site is littered with threads of people complaining about how difficult the process can be.  I booked a room and he didn’t show up.  I went to a city and got stood up x amount of times.  Provider got lost.  Client was with family.  Someone insisted on face pics.  Provider was in seedy hotel.  Dog ate my homework.

So they can take a for sure thing.  Or spend the night sorting through all of the messages they complain about.  Maybe they can have lunch with someone for a predate interview.  

I don't fault your system.  For an escort who needs the immediate booking, it's money.  Both win.

This site is littered with people who don't do their homework and only think with their dick.  As we've seen many times before, it rarely turns out well.  Whether you're paying or just indiscriminately fucking around with everything that comes along, eventually you're going to get the chamber with the bullet.

Sure, some escorts will accept less for their time, but those who already know how to run a business and have enough clientele to keep them busy will not.  

 

 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

2 hours ago, MscleLovr said:

 I’d suggest an all-expenses-paid overseas trip. I’d ask what place/resort or activities interested them. I’d mention it would be luxurious throughout, and get them to say what fee they’d require. 

Again, some escorts are enamoured with the location versus the money they can make.

It's a business decision, but not always the best one.

It sorta reminds me of people who take on cc debt just so they can Instagram themselves in exotic locations. 

Edited January 15 by BenjaminNicholas

[Thelatin]

1 hour ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

Again, some escorts are enamoured with the location versus the money they can make.

Exactly - I’ve got a place rented in Palm Springs.   Now my provider is bringing his boyfriend with, why not? Fun for me, free stay for him.  Not every decision is financial in the end.