Rates on the Rise??

[Lazarus]

was eager to see him back in November.  A month later we chatted, and in his chat he'd informed me of a fee change.  I wrote back and told him that I would "take a ring check."  Apparently, he did not understand, for he wrote back seemingly rather enthusiastic in our

what is a “ring check’?

 

[maninsoma]

14 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

was eager to see him back in November.  A month later we chatted, and in his chat he'd informed me of a fee change.  I wrote back and told him that I would "take a ring check."  Apparently, he did not understand, for he wrote back seemingly rather enthusiastic in our

what is a “ring check’?

 

I assume he meant "rain check," but I don't think that phrase really conveys what he intended.  A rain check implies a transaction won't occur right now, for whatever reason, with the implication that it will occur at some point in the future.  It sounds to me like the intention was to communicate a change of mind regarding hiring the guy, period.

[Thelatin]

I pay a grand per visit.  The provider can choose how long to stay and what to offer.  I choose if I contact them again.  Pretty easy system.

 

[Whippoorwill]

Bought a dozen eggs lately?  Looked at your gas & electric bill? My Mani-Pedi has gone from $21 to $45 pre-Covid to today. Since pre-Covid, my favorite boys have about doubled for new clients, a little less for regulars.

We were spoiled. From 2012 to 2021 the rate of inflation hovered between o% and 2%+. The US inflation rate in January 2023 was 6.5%. Those of us who are old enough remember when the US inflation rate was 13.55% in 1980. Be glad you're not in Turkey, where the January 2023 rate of inflation was 84.4%.

It is just economics. Like everything else, cock finds its market clearing price. 

 

[DWnyc]

On 2/19/2023 at 11:04 PM, Church magnet said:

I know, right? Don't they know inflation doesn't apply to sex workers because they're just hunks of meat that live in a cages at night when not being molested for pennies.

My local barber used to charge $10 before covid. Since he reopened last year he charges $25. So I have halved the frequency with which I visit him.

He asked why I don’t come every month like I used to, and I told him I can’t afford to at his new rates.

He got his mirror and showed me my scalp. “Don’t worry sir, you have less hair these days anyway, it’s probably the right frequency for you” 

[John]

Fortunately most of my hiring is in Berlin, but even here some, mostly new, are trying to push the rate up to 200.  I simply decline, refuse to negotiate, and tell them to wait for someone who will pay their price.  There are LOTS of hot guys at 150.

[Jamie21]

11 hours ago, DWnyc said:

Bottom line is this is one of the most capitalist transactions out there - no price controls, regulatory body, recommended rates, collective bargaining etc. The only distortions that can allow excesses to creep in are an eye on the law and fear of exposure for some.

So rates do stabilize over time based on what the local market will tolerate - a function of supply, demand etc

I switch off at the moralizing / ethics arguments (“how do you expect providers to survive under these conditions…”) as much as I do when I hear clients speak of providers collectively as being required to do whatever they want, whenever, because they’re paying. 

The best comment on this subject I’ve seen for ages. I totally agree. 

[MikeThomas]

Reached out to two unaffiliated Dallas providers (traveling through)... one at $450... the other at $500.  I'll stick with my "go to" guy.

[+ jessmapex]

With the new rates, i feel like my fortunes have changed and i am no longer in the class that can afford to regularly outsource companionship and sexual needs to a provider. Surprising thing is how the fortunes changed in just a year or so. Same thing with hotels, airfares etc. And i didn't even lose my job or had any other major losses. May be I should have taken one of those PPP loans the govt doled out. That would have kept a provider or two employed 🙂

[+ DrownedBoy]

2 hours ago, MikeThomas said:

Reached out to two unaffiliated Dallas providers (traveling through)... one at $450... the other at $500.  I'll stick with my "go to" guy.

Travelers always charge more, if only because they have to.

I try and stick with locals.

[builder boy]

Very much so.   Quoted 16k for a weekend today.  

[Muscleaddict333]

These same guys that are quoting $500 to some of you are doing $200 massages. Something isn’t adding up… why offer $200 massages -  or less - if you’re really making a living charging $500 an hour as an escort?

I won’t pay more than $300 per hour unless it’s someone like Mr O level classic physique or Open class competitor 

 

prime example:

xRobertMiami on RentMasseur

RENTMASSEUR.COM

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View my profile on RentMasseur.com

 

Edited August 9, 2023 by Muscleaddict333

[maninsoma]

12 hours ago, Muscleaddict333 said:

These same guys that are quoting $500 to some of you are doing $200 massages. Something isn’t adding up… why offer $200 massages -  or less - if you’re really making a living charging $500 an hour as an escort?

I won’t pay more than $300 per hour unless it’s someone like Mr O level classic physique or Open class competitor 

 

prime example:

xRobertMiami on RentMasseur

RENTMASSEUR.COM

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View my profile on RentMasseur.com

 

I obviously cannot speak for any specific provider, but when I see an escort with both Rentmen and Rentmasseur ads and there is a rate on Rentmasseur that's clearly lower than he's likely to charge as an escort, he's probably:

1. Not fully booked as an escort, so he's willing to add some clients who won't pay escort rates and actually are satisfied with a massage and happy ending.

2. Hoping to upgrade the appointment from massage to escort, with a bump in rate, once the client meets him in person.

[marylander1940]

On 2/21/2023 at 12:45 AM, John said:

Fortunately most of my hiring is in Berlin, but even here some, mostly new, are trying to push the rate up to 200.  I simply decline, refuse to negotiate, and tell them to wait for someone who will pay their price.  There are LOTS of hot guys at 150.

Maybe they prefer less clients but better clients.

4 guys x 150 = 600

3 guys x 200 = 600

Some clients also prefer guys who don't have a "revolving door" at their door.

[marylander1940]

13 hours ago, maninsoma said:

I obviously cannot speak for any specific provider, but when I see an escort with both Rentmen and Rentmasseur ads and there is a rate on Rentmasseur that's clearly lower than he's likely to charge as an escort, he's probably:

1. Not fully booked as an escort, so he's willing to add some clients who won't pay escort rates and actually are satisfied with a massage and happy ending.

2. Hoping to upgrade the appointment from massage to escort, with a bump in rate, once the client meets him in person.

Or he's just dumb and doesn't know massage although legal is 3 times the work and half the pay. Besides the HE reminds me of slavery and to some clients is not even included in the clock. 

When I read "the spa" sometimes I have to remind myself they're talking about people. Sometimes is a race to see who gets the most extras, etc...

[Monarchy79]

Anyone in any profession earning $300+ an hour isn’t really that impacted by inflation. These rate hikes are simply the result of one of the simple principles of capitalism: if people are willing to pay the rate, then charge that rate. 
 

 

 

[+ DrownedBoy]

On 8/8/2023 at 9:19 PM, Muscleaddict333 said:

I won’t pay more than $300 per hour unless it’s someone like Mr O level classic physique or Open class competitor 

Ditto. I love bodybuilders, but I acknowledge they need to spend a lot to keep their physique up. They're the only ones who can make me break my 300 limit.

[marylander1940]

On 8/10/2023 at 12:09 AM, Monarchy79 said:

Anyone in any profession earning $300+ an hour isn’t really that impacted by inflation. These rate hikes are simply the result of one of the simple principles of capitalism: if people are willing to pay the rate, then charge that rate. 
 

 

 

And 300 tax free!

[Whippoorwill]

When I had a professional consulting business, attached to each contract was a rate sheet titled "Hourly Rates, 2023". This set the expectation that the rates were not forever. Depending on the job, the client, the longevity of the contract, etc., (including how busy I was), I adjusted rates periodically. But any adjustments had to take into account the state of the economy, how committed the client was, etc. Supply and Demand. 

 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

On 8/15/2023 at 7:03 PM, marylander1940 said:

And 300 tax free!

If you want to get in some serious shit, sure.

The IRS does not fuck around once they have their sights set on you.  With the agency ramping up, hiring more agents and trying to to get back to business as usual, now is not the time to forgo paying your taxes.

A smart escort understands that.

[Guest]

On 2/19/2023 at 6:31 PM, ChasingGirth said:

It’s about the same in ny now. Any new guys or guys that I haven’t noticed in the past respond back $400 and some up to $500. 
I’m glad the guys I started to see a while ago haven’t changed their prices at least with me. 

Rates do go up like everything else, believe me but hang on to those that still honor their old rate with you, I've always believed it wasn't prudent to raise a rate on a long time loyal regular. Glad to read that they've been good to you like that, also speaks some to your character 🙌🏽

[uclablueyes]

I came back to LA after a six month stint in Europe and everybody I have contacted has moved from $300 to $450/hr. That’s insane. 

[Rod Hagen]

But is it?  I mean when I started escorting in 1999, the average hourly rate was $200.  And that did not change, significantly, for a long time.  I often wondered why.  Lawyers charged more, plumbers charged more, escort rates didn't really rise for 15 years. 

Well, I figured it out.  It's the same reason apartments that rent to young people often now have their own in-unit laundry, and there are 10 climbing gyms around LA when for 25 years there was only one.  Millennials, and definitely Zillenials, are more demanding.  That's not bad.  Rather than just coast along like Gen X, they ask for more. I see the rate increases that have finally taken hold as a shift in attitude.  Older escorts like me aren't asking for what younger scorts charge.  I guess we are wusses :-)

Edited January 6 by Rod Hagen

[+ KensingtonHomo]

5 minutes ago, Rod Hagen said:

Rather than just coast along like Gen X, they ask for more. 

Most millennials I know can't afford an apartment with those amenities. Several are in their 30s and still living with roommates. I cannot imagine them paying $350 for an escort while struggling to pay rent. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

2 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Most millennials I know can't afford an apartment with those amenities. Several are in their 30s and still living with roommates. I cannot imagine them paying $350 for an escort while struggling to pay rent. 

This older millennial can't either...

....which is why he has a modest condo. Mortgage payments are like half of what some of my friends pay in rent.

As for the latest Chicago price update, I'm seeing professionals, including young ones, drop their prices below 300/hour (or 500/2hr) more often. There's something off about the economy. I bet everyone's been paying with credit and savings the past 3 years, and the bills are coming due. For both clients and providers.