DWnyc Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 hours ago, sniper said: How does he know it's actually the provider on the app? It's easy to grab someone else's pics and put them in your profile. There are plenty of catfishers out there. I guess he doesn’t. Though he meets tje provider at his residence and I assume location (easy to see unless hidden) probably gives away the accuracy. but I’ll say I’ve spotted pretty much every one of my regular providers on apps along with those I recognize from ads - I stay away from even a friendly hello, to avoid any misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Men are quite visual in their sexuality. They don't like fat women / they don't like fat men. You hear clients complaining about being rejected for being fat, but you don't see these fat men hiring, fat escorts ! That’s because the fat clients are offering their unfat providers cash, not “time”. It’s not an exchange of the same service / product. Vulgarii 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, DWnyc said: That’s because the fat clients are offering their unfat providers cash, not “time”. It’s not an exchange of the same service / product. There's an entire subculture of bears and their admirers, so not all gay men are obsessed with skinny or muscular guys. DWnyc, big-n-tall, Marc in Calif and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ ThroatCummer Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, KensingtonHomo said: There's an entire subculture of bears and their admirers, so not all gay men are obsessed with skinny or muscular guys. Yea. I'm a stereotypical "bear" and my partner of 14 years was fucking jacked. Like IFBB stage competition level jacked. The one thing I learned a long time ago is that natural masculinity + being calm and cool and comfortable + self-confidence = being able to attract anyone you want. + Vegas_Millennial, DWnyc, MikeBiDude and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Suraci Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 It’s a business, not a dating service. I never reject a client based on age, weight, or looks. If they’re paying, they’re welcome. If I only hired under 40 clients, I would never be able to support myself. Providers with lots of client qualification hangups do not last long in the biz. They are not worth your $. Hire respectful providers. When they aren’t respectful toward you, move on. Tip for anyone, really. Never explain the reason for rejecting someone online whether for work or personal. There is no positive outcome for them or for you to do so. Don’t play games on hookup apps. It’s one thing to have communication on Rent Men, Rent Masseur, etc. Outside of those purpose built platforms, it just wastes your time and theirs to go fish. Don’t spoil it. Get what you want. Just hire. Njguy2, Rod Hagen, DWnyc and 4 others 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Pensant Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 16 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said: There's an entire subculture of bears and their admirers, so not all gay men are obsessed with skinny or muscular guys. Not mention “chubby-chasers”. MikeBiDude, + KensingtonHomo and liubit 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Pensant said: Not mention “chubby-chasers”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 15 hours ago, Simon Suraci said: It’s a business, not a dating service.. Never explain the reason for rejecting someone online whether for work or personal. There is no positive outcome for them or for you to do so. I would say here, since it is a business, if there is sufficient evidence (a pattern seen with multiple folks with similar features, or the provider says so literally or almost literally) the provider should be exposed for whatever criteria they have if they don’t have it in their ad. If they really do reject clients who are older or fatter or not of the ethnicity they want as a donor, and if that is not clear in their profile (likely as they don’t want to sound like an ass) let the world know and the world can decide how to react. But of course one has to be very very certain before launching such a campaign against someone’s livelihood. BtmBearDad and + DrownedBoy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 7 hours ago, DWnyc said: I would say here, since it is a business, if there is sufficient evidence (a pattern seen with multiple folks with similar features, or the provider says so literally or almost literally) the provider should be exposed for whatever criteria they have if they don’t have it in their ad. If they really do reject clients who are older or fatter or not of the ethnicity they want as a donor, and if that is not clear in their profile (likely as they don’t want to sound like an ass) let the world know and the world can decide how to react. But of course one has to be very very certain before launching such a campaign against someone’s livelihood. Since (in the U.S.) the escort market isn't policed, we have to police ourselves. If a provider does something that would warrant a bad review on Yelp, they warrant a bad review here and RM. It's just business. + APPLE1 and DWnyc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 To the OP: As a starting escort at 26, I saw clients in their 90s, older than my then-living GrandFather. thomas, PaulM, + DrownedBoy and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlow Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 On 2/14/2023 at 5:41 PM, DrownedBoy said: And for obvious reasons the under-40 clients disappear eventually (I used to be one). I agree I used to be one too. I started at 20 because I was closeted and in the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnie Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 I am not sure who on this is being rejected for age, the client or the escort. But as what definitely qualifies as older in almost any demographic short of a nursing home, I don't ever recall being turned down due to my age, unless they just did not respond to an initial request for contact as location and rates. Several ads I have seen specifically say into older men. As I have aged, I find myself seeking older providers. I now don't really look at guys under 30! Older men seem to be less impressed by themselves and are realistic about their no longer quite so great bodies and thus able to personally relate more than the hotter younger guys. For many reasons I have rarely hired the same guy more than once, but one that I recently have and plan on hiring again is not that far from Social Security and my body is at least in as good shape as his. Simon Suraci and EastbayMike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 10:46 PM, ThroatCummer said: The one thing I learned a long time ago is that natural masculinity + being calm and cool and comfortable + self-confidence = being able to attract anyone you want. Yes, totally I agree. Sometimes though people don’t get beyond the initial physical look. As in ‘he hasn’t got abs so I’m not interested’ approach. He has everything else but you never saw it because all you see is abs…or the absence of them. Doing sex work I meet lots of guys, of all shapes and sizes. Those with natural confidence, who know and accept themselves are definitely those who are the most attractive. There’s no correlation to physical looks. Simon Suraci and + KensingtonHomo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italianboyph Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Most if not all the clients are older men, if someone has hang ups on age then they shouldn't be doing this. BtmBearDad, Simon Suraci, nate_sf and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetetKsfo Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I have a couple of regular clients who are in their 70s. I once had a client in his 80s. I rarely have a client under 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ APPLE1 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) On 2/26/2023 at 3:22 AM, Jamie21 said: Yes, totally I agree. Sometimes though people don’t get beyond the initial physical look. As in ‘he hasn’t got abs so I’m not interested’ approach. He has everything else but you never saw it because all you see is abs…or the absence of them. Doing sex work I meet lots of guys, of all shapes and sizes. Those with natural confidence, who know and accept themselves are definitely those who are the most attractive. There’s no correlation to physical looks. I get the "physical look" aspect. What I have never understood is the random numbers assigned to a desired look. I think we all know guys who have the road hard put away way look at 25 and also understand that, 200 lbs looks very different on a guy 5'6 vs 6'5. There is NOTHING I love more than being hit up on an app, reading the profile, and being able to respond with "ooooh. . . sorry, but I am outside of your numbers standards." There is a bit of sweet justice to it, and more importantly, I always hope it makes people think about how random and irrelevant their numbers standards are. Edited March 15, 2023 by APPLE1 BtmBearDad and + DrownedBoy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ IronMaus Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I enjoy having sex with bottoms, obese people, and people in their 70s 80s 90s. But when people of these variety approach me on hookup apps, I'm less inclined to accept their advances. It's not because I would only do it for work - it's because I do it for work so often. I look for younger tops in my personal life because I sleep with mostly older bottoms in my professional life. If it were the opposite on one side, it would be the opposite on the other. Unfortunately, in some cities this can work against me. When I (politely) reject people in the personal (hookup app) realm, it can deter them from hiring me in the professional realm. I'm the type of guy who says "thank you" when someone woofs at me and "no thank you" when they hit me up. I understand where this could lead them to thinking I'm just feigning interest as a provider just for money, but there isn't much I can do about it. I could simply ignore their messages and advances but I find that difficult. liubit, thomas and mike carey 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, IronMaus said: I enjoy having sex with bottoms, obese people, and people in their 70s 80s 90s. But when people of these variety approach me on hookup apps, I'm less inclined to accept their advances. It's not because I would only do it for work - it's because I do it for work so often. I look for younger tops in my personal life because I sleep with mostly older bottoms in my professional life. If it were the opposite on one side, it would be the opposite on the other. Unfortunately, in some cities this can work against me. When I (politely) reject people in the personal (hookup app) realm, it can deter them from hiring me in the professional realm. I'm the type of guy who says "thank you" when someone woofs at me and "no thank you" when they hit me up. I understand where this could lead them to thinking I'm just feigning interest as a provider just for money, but there isn't much I can do about it. I could simply ignore their messages and advances but I find that difficult. I recognise this. I don’t use hookup apps (used to, but I got bored of it). But if I’m having sex outside of my work then I’ll usually bottom. When I’m working it’s mostly me being top. Doing work that is predominantly sex based does have an impact on your sex life. Even to the extent that sometimes if I’ve met up with a friend for fun I’ll be thinking ‘I’d have charged £x for that’, or I’ll decline a meet because I’m seeing a client later and I want to be ready for them. I’m fine with the work but this is one of the drawbacks. thomas, liubit, + IronMaus and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnie Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 I list my age on RM as mid 60's so I leave you guessing as to the truth. Once past the initial agreement, which is usually a week before the date, I do identify myself as older, also admit to having ED. Never had a problem with an escort. But if he were to cancel, I would look at it being for the best, don't want to waste my limited opportunities to hire to be ruined on a guy who is so judgmental. + Axiom2001, Simon Suraci, thomas and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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