Providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral

[twinkielover]

I would never ever hire anyone who did not kiss and give oral.  

[Jamie21]

Clients don’t kiss too. I saw a client recently who described himself as ‘basically straight but exploring with guys’ before his massage. I asked him before we started if there was anywhere I shouldn’t go, or was he happy for me to read his reactions and go with the flow. He was ok with the go with the flow option so that’s what I did.

He didn’t touch me atall and lay still through most of the session. Sometimes with inexperienced ‘straight’ guys they get anxious when I go near their bum but he was fine with me touching, and even rimming. I lubed him up and he was ok with finger prostate massage too.

When he turned over he was hard and clearly enjoying it but he remained totally impassive and silent. I kissed his nipples to get a reaction and there was nothing. So I thought I’d try a kiss. Sometimes it takes that and then all of a sudden the guys inhibition goes and he relaxes. I don’t just go and kiss him though, I just whisper into his ear ‘do you like to kiss?’. Then he can turn his head and we kiss. But this guy replies to my kiss suggestion with ‘only with females’….so that was that! 
 

[DamizzonNYC]

On 3/1/2023 at 5:39 PM, IronMaus said:

I've never understood them, but I'm thankful for providers that do not kiss or give oral because they make me more popular.
If they say they are into kissing and then don't, THAT is unforgiveable.

Hahaha, I almost responded exactly the same thing.  Thank god for those *other* providers, lol. 

I'm honestly sort of lost without kissing.   I find it's my #1 connection to the client, that and eye contact.  For me it's the primary guide whether or not you're doing what the client likes.  Some of us actually do get off on pleasing, and there's no better way to know if your client is pleased or not. 

[Anthony]

Providers are supposed to be giving oral??? I'm must be getting ripped off becuase none of my providers I've hired give oral and some don't even kiss. Just last night I met a provider for the first time and told me he I can't give him oral and no kissing. He wouldn't even let me lick his body and was asking for $600 just to cum on me. I was thinking about starting a separate thread for it because it was the most insane thing ever and I was about to follow through with it. I really need to raise my standards. 

[DamizzonNYC]

3 hours ago, Anthony said:

Providers are supposed to be giving oral??? I'm must be getting ripped off becuase none of my providers I've hired give oral and some don't even kiss. Just last night I met a provider for the first time and told me he I can't give him oral and no kissing. He wouldn't even let me lick his body and was asking for $600 just to cum on me. I was thinking about starting a separate thread for it because it was the most insane thing ever and I was about to follow through with it. I really need to raise my standards. 

This is the kind of stuff I hear that makes me think I'm a bad businessman.   LOL

[pubic_assistance]

On 10/28/2023 at 4:40 AM, Jamie21 said:

I saw a client recently who described himself as ‘basically straight but exploring with guys’

Throughout the world you will find that for most "str8" guys....KISSING is the line in the sand that makes you "gay".

 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

16 hours ago, Anthony said:

Providers are supposed to be giving oral??? I'm must be getting ripped off becuase none of my providers I've hired give oral and some don't even kiss. Just last night I met a provider for the first time and told me he I can't give him oral and no kissing. He wouldn't even let me lick his body and was asking for $600 just to cum on me. I was thinking about starting a separate thread for it because it was the most insane thing ever and I was about to follow through with it. I really need to raise my standards. 

This is insane. Was this for a massage or escort session? If it was the latter, I wouldn’t hire that person again. If it’s the former; you’re paying three times more than necessary to get a good erotic massage. 

[Your Man in Arlington]

17 hours ago, Anthony said:

Providers are supposed to be giving oral??? I'm must be getting ripped off becuase none of my providers I've hired give oral and some don't even kiss.

Every provider I've hired has willingly, if not enthusiastically, been into kissing, as well as giving and receiving oral.

That said, kissing is activity I make sure up front is something we both enjoy. Never had to even get into the oral thing... that was kind of a given I guess?

Also, I think every provider I've hired specifies BFE, which I read as a flexible term for being interactive and personable. I have a husband, don't need a boyfriend.

[viewing ownly]

This just goes to show how important it is when choosing someone to never, ever assume they're willing to do anything that isn't already spelled out.

I find the providers that are "rim only, no bj" to personally be the most twisted. I only experienced that once, and never again!

[Decatur Guy]

I have two regulars that I hire. One kisses, doesn't give oral. The other doesn't kiss and doesn't give oral. I prefer kissing over not kissing. But I can live without it. And the second one tops so well I don't push the kissing. But if you don't kiss, you will have to make it up somehow! LOL. 

As for not giving oral, I'm one of those weird guys who gets into giving oral so much I actually prefer not to receive in the same session. Being 100% the giver is real a mental trip for me and receiving takes me out of the trance/groove, so to speak. It's not I don't like being blown. I do. It feels great. But when I give head, it makes me horny to receive it. But if I don't receive it, I put that energy back into the blowjob. Which makes him like it even more. Which gears me up more. It's a spiral effect. I know -- I'm crazy. 

 

[ICTJOCK]

I suppose anything is possible,  but for a provider not to kiss or provide oral is like an attorney going into court with the plaintiff asserting a cause of action without evidence.    Kind of lame.    Both could be "laughed out"....

[pubic_assistance]

56 minutes ago, ICTJOCK said:

for a provider not to kiss ....is like an attorney going into court with the plaintiff asserting a cause of action without evidence.

I have to disagree.

Being someone with a wide range of sexual interests and also a person who is NOT looking for anything resembling romance in a hire...I can very confidently report that "kissing" is NOT some sort of goes-with-the-territory component of every sex workers repertoire.

If a pro advertised "BFE"and then told you "I don't kiss"...then yeah. That's false advertising. But a satisfying sexual encounter can most definitely exclude kissing. As a matter of fact I RARELY have EVER desired to KISS a provider.

Totally NOT my thing with a hire.

 

 

 

 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

On 10/27/2023 at 8:58 PM, twinkielover said:

I would never ever hire anyone who did not kiss and give oral.  

I don't kiss or receive oral from most of the men I hire.  There's so much more to do in an hour that I prefer!

[ICTJOCK]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I have to disagree.

Being someone with a wide range of sexual interests and also a person who is NOT looking for anything resembling romance in a hire...I can very confidently report that "kissing" is NOT some sort of goes-with-the-territory component of every sex workers repertoire.

If a pro advertised "BFE"and then told you "I don't kiss"...then yeah. That's false advertising. But a satisfying sexual encounter can most definitely exclude kissing. As a matter of fact I RARELY have EVER desired to KISS a provider.

Totally NOT my thing with a hire.

Everyone has their own views.   We just disagree on this one.

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[TorontoDrew]

Everyone has their limits and preferences.  As long as we are honest with each other about what we offer and what we want that's all that matters.

[pubic_assistance]

8 hours ago, ICTJOCK said:

Everyone has their own views.   We just disagree on this one.

You're mixing up topics.

MY sexual tastes are different than yours. Absolutely.

So "disagree" away, about that.

But the fact-of-the-matter remains that "kissing" is not part & parcel of every sexual encounter with a provider.

YOU may prefer it. But it's NOT guaranteed to be on the menu.

This is like going to a five star restaurant and complaining there's no salt and pepper shakers on the table simply because you're accustomed to eating at the diner.

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[DWnyc]

I personally don’t understand folks prepared to have unprotected penetrative sex (regardless of prep - which doesn’t protect you from basic mess let alone other stuff) but can’t kiss.  

As with online hookups, I assume it’s because they're not attracted to the other person, and would in other circumstances regardless of “I don’t kiss” posturing. 

A “straight” provider who says explicitly he doesn’t kiss on his profile told me  - he can actually kiss guys, as to him if he closes his eyes it could be anyone - just like a hole could be male or female to him so he can perform either way  - (kind of ridiculous unless his female partners have a lot of facial hair) - but he says the no kissing expectation saves him from a lot of emotional stress.  He’ll only kiss if he finds the client attractive. I did ask him if everything was so interchangeable and if there was a spectrum where some guys were attractive, why was he so adamantly “straight” … 

[ICTJOCK]

22 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

You're mixing up topics.

MY sexual tastes are different than yours.

So disagree away.

But the fact-of-the-matter remains that "kissing" is not part & parcel of every sexual encounter with a provider.

YOU may prefer it. But it's NOT guaranteed to be on the menu.

This is like going to a five star restaurant and complaining there's no salt and pepper shakers on the table simply because you're accustomed to eating at the diner.

I tend to like my example of a plaintiff at trail without a cause of action or evidence and the judge just throws it out of court....lol

Edited October 30, 2023 by ICTJOCK

[DWnyc]

6 minutes ago, ICTJOCK said:

I tend to like my example of a plaintiff at trail without a cause of action or evidence and the judge just throws it out of court....lol

But the lawyers would still expect to get paid 

[twinkielover]

I totally understand you guys that are hiring for an hour don’t care much about kissing and oral.  You hired your guy to fuck him or get fucked by him.  Perfectly reasonable.  I don’t hire for one hour at a time fun.  Kissing is very important to me.  Oral is as well.  To each their own.  

[ICTJOCK]

14 minutes ago, DWnyc said:

But the lawyers would still expect to get paid 

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No doubt they would.   I wonder if kissing or a blow job could be incorporated as a means of compensation.  haha

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

1 hour ago, DWnyc said:

I personally don’t understand folks prepared to have unprotected penetrative sex (regardless of prep - which doesn’t protect you from basic mess let alone other stuff) but can’t kiss.  

That's me.  I had frequent unprotected penetrative sex for years before I ever kissed someone.  For some, kissing is more of an emotional connection reserved for the very closest in their life.  It's not about risk; it's about emotions and relationships.

A previous partner and I were allowed to penetrate and be penetrated by others; but, we agreed not to kiss others.  It worked well for us.

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[pubic_assistance]

41 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

For some, kissing is more of an emotional connection reserved for the very closest in their life. 

Exactly.

I have ZERO interest in kissing a hire.

It would literally be a turn-off.

[DWnyc]

4 hours ago, ICTJOCK said:

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No doubt they would.   I wonder if kissing or a blow job could be incorporated as a means of compensation.  haha

Seems like at least one side will feel they got screwed … 

 

[Danny-Darko]

That works fine for me! Kissing on the mouth is something I only do with somebody I'm involved with emotionally and have an ongoing relationship with. It may sound bizarre to some. I once had a friend who couldn't grasp how I could rim a guy but not kiss him on the mouth! LOL And I prefer to give head than to get mostly, so the type of men I usually hire fit that category of providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral. Just my cup of tea! Everybody has their own likes and dislikes and what's important for them in a sexual partner.