Is Onlyfans affecting the escort business?

[musclelover]

Recently, I've been seeing a lot of posts in which the rates have routinely reached $400 and $500 - and even $1,000.

Do you have any thoughts as to whether some of the more popular escorts are doing so well from their Onlyfans business that they do very limited escort work - and are only doing it at super premium rates?

[LA90046]

1 minute ago, musclelover said:

Recently, I've been seeing a lot of posts in which the rates have routinely reached $400 and $500 - and even $1,000.

Do you have any thoughts as to whether some of the more popular escorts are doing so well from their Onlyfans business that they do very limited escort work - and are only doing it at super premium rates?

Unquestionably.

Also, it appears some RM profiles exist solely for the purpose of promoting a non-escort's OF.

[+ Pensant]

OTOH, I’m seeing more young and cute providers popping up with rates of $300, so it’s a mixed bag. Do agree that OF has had an outsized impact, though.

[musclelover]

32 minutes ago, LA90046 said:

Unquestionably.

Also, it appears some RM profiles exist solely for the purpose of promoting a non-escort's OF.

Yeah, I've seen the links from Rentmen profiles to their Onlyfans page.

I think that that's the business model for a lot of guys on Twitter; they post some of their nude photos or a 10-second video of a porn scene that they've filmed - and then entice the viewer to join their Onlyfans for the full video.

[big-n-tall]

I’d say no. At least not with the guys I’ve hired who are on RM and also have onlyfans account. I think the price increases have more to do with rm not allowing for rates to be displayed. So new escorts just put up whatever amount probably based on word of mouth or what they think they can get.

Do I think there is a new wave of rm ads used to funnel traffic to onlyfan accounts… definitely. However as I mentioned I don’t think fan accounts are the reason rates have increased.

[guru68]

It would be interesting to know how many established escorts have ended up exiting in favor of OF and the like. I agree that there are a lot of newish RM ads which are likely just advertising for OF business, or effectively being a screen process to identify clients willing to pay a big premium for an escort. 

I have a lot of respect for successful escorts. As a rule, they've managed a level of self-discipline and social skill that I would have serious trouble matching. I don't want to appear dismissive of guys who are solely in the online model category, but it seems like escorting is the more challenging job.

[GTMike]

I tend to agree that OnlyFans or whatever subscription based video service that doesn't have to be live has directly and indirectly affected a good segment. Even some escorts/SA guys who don't have video services still hear about how much others are supposedly making whether it's accurate or not and feel like if they're meeting in person it's a more premium experience and it ups the expected consideration for their time. I've recently had one gentlemen up his $400/hr rate to $800/hr and candidly told me that was why he did it.

 

[+ V-Vhitner]

Agree with the observations made.

I sense an almost crypto-esque proliferation of OF and similar “content” marketing which I think will similarly bust later this year into next.
 

My hope is that this actually creates a much larger pipeline of escorts who are no longer able to rely on selling their content - especially in a recession…

And then prices will hopefully normalize (for the most part) across a much larger group of providers. At least that’s my cautious (maybe optimistic) prediction.

[jusmeinbr]

Only Fans has been very useful for me as a screening tool.  My click thru rate on RM ads is less than 10% (zero interest in the other 90%).

I can safely say that, of those I do click through on and my interest is peaked, of those who have OF pages, I don’t hesitate to take a month subscription (I hit “don’t renew” first thing).  It’s great because you can see tons of historical posts for one low flat amount.

 In 70% of those instances, the OF page lessened my desire to meet rather than increased it.

 Hence, OF has saved me a ton of money and disappointment and I therefore am a big OF fan!!

[RyanDean]

I too use OF as a screening tool. It can be very instructive. (Same goes for twitter and Adonis.) But it can be tricky to screen for who's seeking clients versus who's seeking collabs.

There are a handful of OF guys who have become my dream hires (though they don't have RM ads) and I have noticed a handful of very active OF gents who reliably advertised on RM but who no longer do so. 

[LostUpstate]

I’ve subscribed to some guys’ OF to get a better look and see if I want to hire him or not. Sometimes after subscribing, I find out that they’re not a match. One guy I subscribed to is in his late 30s now, Italian-American, and really well hung, but when I saw his feet I was totally turned off. Really bad bunions and his big toes were pointing towards his other toes. I don’t have a foot fetish at all, but I was shocked that someone who took such good care of his body could have such bad feet. So I saved myself $350. 

[marylander1940]

Affecting? Possibly is taking many high quality pornstar off the market because they'd rather film themselves having sex with other hot men instead of seeing clients. 

Internet has gotten rid of the middleman in many business and now porno is one more. OF is also a way to make legal and taxable money to use to buy property, etc. 

I'm very happy I was able to meet Austin before Onlyfans allow him to get out of the market. 

[BonVivant]

There is also a limit on how many “creators” OF can support. It’s subscription based. So the hot A++ can make a very grand income stream on OF (while they can). But how many fall into that category? They would have been porn stars in the pre-OF era and would have commanded a premium then. They will now. You’ll have a second category that wilL be OF & RM. They exist. Then there is the RM only crowd and also the SA only crowd. Not everyone wants to be a permanent OF porn star. Once you go there, your life will never be the same. Most don’t want that kind of exposure. 

[LostUpstate]

7 minutes ago, BonVivant said:

There is also a limit on how many “creators” OF can support. It’s subscription based. So the hot A++ can make a very grand income stream on OF (while they can). But how many fall into that category? They would have been porn stars in the pre-OF era and would have commanded a premium then. They will now. You’ll have a second category that wilL be OF & RM. They exist. Then there is the RM only crowd and also the SA only crowd. Not everyone wants to be a permanent OF porn star. Once you go there, your life will never be the same. Most don’t want that kind of exposure. 

While they can is a good way to put it. Sometimes I tire of porn stars who I thought were really hot when I first saw them, and then the novelty wears off. 

[buckguy]

3 hours ago, BonVivant said:

There is also a limit on how many “creators” OF can support. It’s subscription based. So the hot A++ can make a very grand income stream on OF (while they can). But how many fall into that category? They would have been porn stars in the pre-OF era and would have commanded a premium then. They will now. You’ll have a second category that wilL be OF & RM. They exist. Then there is the RM only crowd and also the SA only crowd. Not everyone wants to be a permanent OF porn star. Once you go there, your life will never be the same. Most don’t want that kind of exposure. 

A good summary. The OF model seems to be evolving with more pay per video which, in the long run only works if they produce a regular stream of content. The typical OF claims weekly updates but often don’t even manage to do them monthly. My guess is that we’ll continue on 5he road of a small number of prolific OF a producers who do well and the laggards will come to be easier to spot and less lucrative for their creators.

Pornstars use OF as an adjunct to their career or a way to extend their ability to monetize it, much as they used to use escorting for this purpose. The non-OF pornstar escorts tend to be from the pre-OF area. Still, if OF becomes less lucrative then I think we may see more new pornstars escorting again.

I think the pricing volatility has a lot to do with COVID and the absence of an active market for a couple years. Things will settle down, but prices won’t be as low as they used to be.

[sjmuktop]

A couple of my regular guys have OF accounts but the escorting is their main gig. The OF is just something they do on the side for a bit of supplementary income.

[marylander1940]

7 minutes ago, sjmuktop said:

A couple of my regular guys have OF accounts but the escorting is their main gig. The OF is just something they do on the side for a bit of supplementary income.

Is not for everybody but some won't even consider escorting after making it big on OF.

Unfortunately this is an old article, I'm sure numbers have changed and others might be the top earnears nowadays. 

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Hopefully everyone is paying their taxes.

 

[sjmuktop]

6 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

Is not for everybody but some won't even consider escorting after making it big on OF.

Unfortunately this is an old article, I'm sure numbers have changed and others might be the top earnears nowadays. 

Gay OnlyFans Performers Are Making $100,000 for Their Clips and Pics

WWW.OUT.COM

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Hopefully everyone is paying their taxes.

 

What I don't get is people being happy to part with cash just to see nude pics or pics and/or videos of people having sex. Basically it's just like subscribing to amateur porn. 

Not for me. I would much rather part with my cash to actually enjoy a hot guy in the flesh.

[Thelatin]

It’s an interesting business.  I’ve seen people “make it big” and then have issues. What happens if you get banned from the site you use to generate your income?

 

[marylander1940]

18 minutes ago, sjmuktop said:

What I don't get is people being happy to part with cash just to see nude pics or pics and/or videos of people having sex. Basically it's just like subscribing to amateur porn. 

Not for me. I would much rather part with my cash to actually enjoy a hot guy in the flesh.

Agreed, yet: "The results justifies the actions/steps/deeds".

Edited May 19, 2023 by marylander1940

[+ azdr0710]

7 hours ago, cordelia1 said:

Hey there! It's an interesting question and worth considering how platforms like Only Fans might impact the escort business. Some escorts may be doing very well from their OnlyFans business and are limiting their escort work to super premium rates, as you mentioned.
However, it's important to note that every business and individual is unique, and other factors may contribute to the high rates you've been seeing.

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[RyanDean]

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[RickyKiss]

I'm curious if anybody has had success messaging someone they follow on OnlyFans to arrange a meeting. If so, how did you do it?

[+ tassojunior]

When you get past the top-100 best-known gay OnlyFans things head south financially very fast and drop to almost nothing quickly. There are thousands and thousands of guys who are "escorts" or "erotic masseurs". I know how the top 100 OF guys do it (and there are social media companies that manage them). But even so there are many more "influencers" making as much as the top OF guys and there are plenty of escorts that make more than all but the top OF guys. If anything OF is a great side-hustle for the pay-per-hour. Two or three times a week post a new photo or short clip on your OF and do a 10-minute vid to sell on it. The real top guys spend an hour a day answering messages. Below the top tier OF as a side hustle is an easy $1000/mo  Half the top OF guys I know of also seem to escort from comments and hints they drop. And below the top I'm sure many are eager. 

The pandemic killed escorting but more importantly it absolutely destroyed porn. The "studios" are just libraries now bought by people who have no clue about making porn. OF stepped in to fill that void. The top sex guys now charge $10 to $30 for a 10 minute sex vid which is outrageous pricing. Once porn resurrects it will either lower OF costs or kill OF. (if the gov't doesn't kill it first.) 

On a side observation, the guys I know who are in the very top tier of escorts, the guys I know (of) who are in the very top tier of porn stars, and the guys I know of who are in the very top tier of OF guys, never ever seem to work out well in either of the other two. 

Edited May 20, 2023 by tassojunior

[+ tassojunior]

6 hours ago, Thelatin said:

It’s an interesting business.  I’ve seen people “make it big” and then have issues. What happens if you get banned from the site you use to generate your income?

 

on social media generally, where more people make big $ as influencers, they just flow to one of their other accounts. guys I follow and subscribe to have many accounts going at once and when one gets shut for nudity or sex they just tell their followers to go to another. A guy may have an OF, 2 or 3 Twitters, 5 IG's , 6 TikToks, Even on OF the big guys do collabs with each other and even if their OF is shut they can still collab with friends on their OF until they get a new one under a new name.